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legendary
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If your going to enter it first figure out what the "manipulators " bot target rate is do not buy or sell more then its set to as it will just get replaced.

Their are active traders and then their is a bot working to unload ltc for btc until the target is met before the next run up on BTC/USD to liquidate.

Ultimately selling LTC at a higher BTC rate.
hero member
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Nice thing with capitalism, you don't have to understand it to be a part of it. Not using, holding holds the value up.

Holding by itself does not hold the value up.  You need people who are willing to increase their holdings by buying some of it.  The price will not stay up if they don't agree with it.
legendary
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Delusional crypto obsessionist
But the question is, do we break the previous bottom of 166 in a few weeks?
I think we might, but not much.
It will also be the last <200 bottom of 2015 and beyond.
legendary
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legendary
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things you own end up owning you

It makes sense, but I also like your theory about more trading = more fees. 

I edited my post, the logic in the previous one didn't make sense, the edited one make more sense.
legendary
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mmitech is just butthurt he didn't get back into LTC ~$1.20 and missed the pump.

that ltc pump was golden but one needs balls to bet on it
legendary
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mmitech is just butthurt he didn't get back into LTC ~$1.20 and missed the pump.
hero member
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hero member
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Weekend dump, or weekend pump? That's the question now.


Oay attention to the sell volume  LTC/BTC. Its higher than the buy expect to see BTC//USD go up.

your theory don't make any sense, I saw your previous posts and I still don't really get it, I think it is just a conspiracy theory you have there....

I think it makes sense. So take a look at what's been going on @ BTC-E for the last section of time.

Right now:
1) they are Dumping bitcoin for litecoin. This is decreasing the cost of bitcoin and raising the cost of litecoin.
2) they are then selling litecoin for usd.
3) then they can buy bitcoin w/ usd, cheaper than what it was previously being sold at.

The inverse also happens when pumping bitcoin to increase litecoin holdings. It's a nice little triangluar pattern that they've been doing since the last bubble.
That combined with the massive amount of shorts has allowed market makers to increase holdings/profits while keeping others suppressed. IMHO

What's even sicker is the trades seem to happen near instantaneously between ltc/btc and ltc/usd, which as Sitarow suggests, keeps value at equilibrium.
I just wish I could understand it a little bit better to try and play the swings.


1) So they are swapping BTC for LTC, OK this doesn't decreases BTC but increase LTC price
2) Then they sell the bought LTC for USD which decreases the price of LTC to the previous price, now both BTC and LTC prices are decreased.
3) Then they buy Bitcoin cheaper, and bring the price back to were it was before, and then they repeat the same thing....

If all this hold for truth, all they are doing is creating volume and volatility, so they are forcing traders to trade which grant them more fees.... it just happened to be LTC and BTC because they are the only coins they have any volume on their site.



Besides, if only BTC-e was a market leader, I mean who even still trade at BTC-e ?
It makes sense, but I also like your theory about more trading = more fees. 
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
things you own end up owning you
Weekend dump, or weekend pump? That's the question now.


Oay attention to the sell volume  LTC/BTC. Its higher than the buy expect to see BTC//USD go up.

your theory don't make any sense, I saw your previous posts and I still don't really get it, I think it is just a conspiracy theory you have there....

I think it makes sense. So take a look at what's been going on @ BTC-E for the last section of time.

Right now:
1) they are Dumping bitcoin for litecoin. This is decreasing the cost of bitcoin and raising the cost of litecoin.
2) they are then selling litecoin for usd.
3) then they can buy bitcoin w/ usd, cheaper than what it was previously being sold at.

The inverse also happens when pumping bitcoin to increase litecoin holdings. It's a nice little triangluar pattern that they've been doing since the last bubble.
That combined with the massive amount of shorts has allowed market makers to increase holdings/profits while keeping others suppressed. IMHO

What's even sicker is the trades seem to happen near instantaneously between ltc/btc and ltc/usd, which as Sitarow suggests, keeps value at equilibrium.
I just wish I could understand it a little bit better to try and play the swings.


1) So they are swapping BTC for LTC, OK this doesn't decreases BTC but increase LTC price
2) Then they sell the bought LTC for USD which decreases the price of LTC to the previous price, now LTC price is decreased.
3) Then they buy Bitcoin cheaper, and somehow pump the price a bit, and then they repeat the same thing....

If all this hold for truth, all they are doing is pumping BTC and creating volume and volatility, so they are forcing traders to trade which grant them more fees.... it just happened to be LTC and BTC because they are the only coins they have any volume on their site.



Besides, if only BTC-e was a market leader, I mean who even still trade at BTC-e ?
legendary
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Looks like Star Xu is worried that BTC will go to 0 because it's pretty much just 100% speculation. He is pleading to the world to please start using it, or else his business will go down the shitter.

http://blog.okcoin.com/post/109570662089/okcoin-in-my-words-star-xu

Enjoy the words of a desperate CEO Cheesy

"If Bitcoin forever stalls at a theoretical stage, the value can only become ever lower - all the way to 0. The development of real use cases for Bitcoin is fundamental. There is no point in dreaming of Wall Street becoming the next buyer or regulatory authorities helping to legitimize Bitcoin."

"If Bitcoin remains only on exchanges, then the likelihood of Bitcoin failing is fairly high. "

Nice thing with capitalism, you don't have to understand it to be a part of it. Not using, holding holds the value up.

legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1047
Weekend dump, or weekend pump? That's the question now.


Oay attention to the sell volume  LTC/BTC. Its higher than the buy expect to see BTC//USD go up.

your theory don't make any sense, I saw your previous posts and I still don't really get it, I think it is just a conspiracy theory you have there....

I think it makes sense. So take a look at what's been going on @ BTC-E for the last section of time.

Right now:
1) they are Dumping bitcoin for litecoin. This is decreasing the cost of bitcoin and raising the cost of litecoin.
2) they are then selling litecoin for usd.
3) then they can buy bitcoin w/ usd, cheaper than what it was previously being sold at.

The inverse also happens when pumping bitcoin to increase litecoin holdings. It's a nice little triangluar pattern that they've been doing since the last bubble.
That combined with the massive amount of shorts has allowed market makers to increase holdings/profits while keeping others suppressed. IMHO

What's even sicker is the trades seem to happen near instantaneously between ltc/btc and ltc/usd, which as Sitarow suggests, keeps value at equilibrium.
I just wish I could understand it a little bit better to try and play the swings.



The task is to inform so they don't get caught of guard.

DO not trade with leverage and watch your bots.

OKCoin 945AM EST LTC/CNY


BTC-e LTC/BTC


BTC-e LTC/USD


BTC-e BTC/USD
hero member
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Looks like Star Xu is worried that BTC will go to 0 because it's pretty much just 100% speculation. He is pleading to the world to please start using it, or else his business will go down the shitter.

http://blog.okcoin.com/post/109570662089/okcoin-in-my-words-star-xu

Enjoy the words of a desperate CEO Cheesy

"If Bitcoin forever stalls at a theoretical stage, the value can only become ever lower - all the way to 0. The development of real use cases for Bitcoin is fundamental. There is no point in dreaming of Wall Street becoming the next buyer or regulatory authorities helping to legitimize Bitcoin."

"If Bitcoin remains only on exchanges, then the likelihood of Bitcoin failing is fairly high. "

Or he is saying that btc needs to develop a price where it stays static, due to usage, which would then increase as actual usage increases....you know the goal of btc.......
sr. member
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Looks like Star Xu is worried that BTC will go to 0 because it's pretty much just 100% speculation. He is pleading to the world to please start using it, or else his business will go down the shitter.

http://blog.okcoin.com/post/109570662089/okcoin-in-my-words-star-xu

Enjoy the words of a desperate CEO Cheesy

"If Bitcoin forever stalls at a theoretical stage, the value can only become ever lower - all the way to 0. The development of real use cases for Bitcoin is fundamental. There is no point in dreaming of Wall Street becoming the next buyer or regulatory authorities helping to legitimize Bitcoin."

"If Bitcoin remains only on exchanges, then the likelihood of Bitcoin failing is fairly high. "

Is he basically selling, shorters better stop shorting or you're gonna kill the goose that lays the golden egg? lol?
sr. member
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Why do you guys think we are going down?

Personally I'm shocked, and I thought I would wake up with btc at 220.
We made it a full cycle from 9am est to 9am est without going near 220. 
...

We're getting there.  Patience.

sr. member
Activity: 258
Merit: 250
Weekend dump, or weekend pump? That's the question now.


Oay attention to the sell volume  LTC/BTC. Its higher than the buy expect to see BTC//USD go up.

your theory don't make any sense, I saw your previous posts and I still don't really get it, I think it is just a conspiracy theory you have there....

I think it makes sense. So take a look at what's been going on @ BTC-E for the last section of time.

Right now:
1) they are Dumping bitcoin for litecoin. This is decreasing the cost of bitcoin and raising the cost of litecoin.
2) they are then selling litecoin for usd.
3) then they can buy bitcoin w/ usd, cheaper than what it was previously being sold at.

The inverse also happens when pumping bitcoin to increase litecoin holdings. It's a nice little triangluar pattern that they've been doing since the last bubble.
That combined with the massive amount of shorts has allowed market makers to increase holdings/profits while keeping others suppressed. IMHO

What's even sicker is the trades seem to happen near instantaneously between ltc/btc and ltc/usd, which as Sitarow suggests, keeps value at equilibrium.
I just wish I could understand it a little bit better to try and play the swings.
hero member
Activity: 545
Merit: 500
Looks like Star Xu is worried that BTC will go to 0 because it's pretty much just 100% speculation. He is pleading to the world to please start using it, or else his business will go down the shitter.

http://blog.okcoin.com/post/109570662089/okcoin-in-my-words-star-xu

Enjoy the words of a desperate CEO Cheesy

"If Bitcoin forever stalls at a theoretical stage, the value can only become ever lower - all the way to 0. The development of real use cases for Bitcoin is fundamental. There is no point in dreaming of Wall Street becoming the next buyer or regulatory authorities helping to legitimize Bitcoin."

"If Bitcoin remains only on exchanges, then the likelihood of Bitcoin failing is fairly high. "
hero member
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Merit: 500
Why do you guys think we are going down?

Personally I'm shocked, and I thought I would wake up with btc at 220.
We made it a full cycle from 9am est to 9am est without going near 220. 
No big Chinese dump yesterday, minimal dump this morning......
Pretty sure we found a real support level, and will possibly go up.
legendary
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