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Topic: julianstantiago's moneypak scam (Read 3175 times)

newbie
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May 23, 2013, 08:38:42 PM
#26
So now what? I have 2 negative feedbacks that are permanent?
newbie
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May 23, 2013, 08:19:23 PM
#25
Could be two scammers trying to scam each other, that's how I see it.

Amusing thread it has been.
newbie
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May 23, 2013, 08:17:30 PM
#24
I'm not sure how you assume that. I have only logged in from my house and my phone today. I would think its clear who the scammer is.
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1015
May 23, 2013, 08:15:42 PM
#23
Well, according to theymos MikeT a probable alt of foofight (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/foofight-etc-195542). This is starting to get complex... Undecided

What does an alt of foofight mean?
It means that julianstantiago may not have been the scammer, here.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1227
Away on an extended break
May 23, 2013, 08:14:51 PM
#22
Well, according to theymos MikeT a probable alt of foofight (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/foofight-etc-195542). This is starting to get complex... Undecided

What does an alt of foofight mean?
You're probably foofight according to IP logs etc.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
May 23, 2013, 08:13:50 PM
#21
Well, according to theymos MikeT a probable alt of foofight (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/foofight-etc-195542). This is starting to get complex... Undecided

What does an alt of foofight mean?
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1227
Away on an extended break
May 23, 2013, 08:09:54 PM
#20
Well, according to theymos MikeT a probable alt of foofight (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/foofight-etc-195542). This is starting to get complex... Undecided
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1015
May 23, 2013, 08:09:35 PM
#19
Sounds like a scammer to me.

Well, I honestly don't know. I'd be curious what info comes back from John and possibly Theymos.
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1222
brb keeping up with the Kardashians
May 23, 2013, 06:13:16 PM
#18
Sounds like a scammer to me.
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1015
May 23, 2013, 04:41:10 PM
#17
I have no idea what to make of his remaining posts.. they appear to be gibberish.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/juliansantiago-120812
Just in case any of that was important, I'm putting the last forum backup into permanent storage.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 501
May 23, 2013, 04:23:52 PM
#16
I have no idea what to make of his remaining posts.. they appear to be gibberish.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/juliansantiago-120812

legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1015
May 23, 2013, 04:08:37 PM
#15
I think we caught him just in time.  One more scammer caught BEFORE he could act.

fwiw I made $10 off him.

HOORAY ME!
Well, I honestly don't know. I'd be curious what info comes back from John and possibly Theymos.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 501
May 23, 2013, 04:06:15 PM
#14
I think we caught him just in time.  One more scammer caught BEFORE he could act.

fwiw I made $10 off him.

HOORAY ME!

legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1015
May 23, 2013, 03:59:49 PM
#13
Julian just made a strange post in my reputation thread here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2249329

I have no idea what that is.


He's wiping all of his posts.

Also, I split this from his rep thread and deleted it, moving this to scam accusations.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 501
May 23, 2013, 03:56:36 PM
#12
Julian just made a strange post in my reputation thread here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2249329

I have no idea what that is.

newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
May 23, 2013, 03:52:39 PM
#11
Also this, it's weird how the messages were sent in a 3 way convo, can't really quote it all

So, MikeT, suggestions?

Any updates on this? I'm checking this on my phone, and if you guys can't resolve this later I'll request the complete information and evidence from both of you.

Thanks,
John

My bitcoin address is 1EArbAJeWZEst3ZS6H3mBGLcsuNdk7XH7y

I have sent all information to both parties. I will be back around 4pm EST.

 http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=61691411067479973975

Here is a video of me attempting to redeem both moneypaks.

Any updates?

The video does not work for me. It's only 0.883 MB - are you sure you captured that correctly? MikeT, can you try redeeming the funds and see what shows up? AFAIK if the funds were spent, it wouldn't state that the code were invalid.



I have called Green Dot and they have confirmed the codes have been redeemed and there is no remaining balance on either card. I can assume the cards worked for you?

I will confirm once I recieve the bitcoin in my wallet. I am so taken back by this. What else can I do? You both have images of MoneyPak card front and back with a picture of the receipt timestamped clearly showing the amount creditted to each card.

Please handle this properly juliansantiago. I don't deserve this.

Can you get the timestamps of the funds being redeemed ? I can only assume that one of you is lying here, and I wish I were around when you guys sent the moneypaks so that I can escrow the moneypak codes too.  Undecided

It's easy for either of you to lie here as a) The funds might be redeemed easily before being sent to the buyer, and b) The funds might be redeemed once the buyer gets the code, while he claims that the codes are DOA.

I'll talk to the admin on this, and possibly make a public thread on this later to analyse the issue.

Thanks,
John

Yes can we make this public, I feel like since I am new I am being taken advantage of. I shouldn't have done such a large amount at once to start off but I felt this was the most secure way off getting the quantity(well half) I am looking for.

I have shown my WoT with plenty of previous history. Even bought/sold using paypal without any issues, this was them sending first.

Please send me a link after you post so I can follow this, either way looks like I'm out $600 now. 

If you recall you wanted to do $1200 worth. I chose to do $600 because you were so new. If I was a scammer would I have asked you to lower the amount? Also you showed me a sealdeal WOT rating. That's not an OTC rating. You're a lying scamming asshole.

See bold.

Where did I say I have OTC rating?
I've sent in an enquiry with the admin to ask him check the IP's and etc.  Undecided Frankly, this is the first time in my 323 escrows that I've been faced with such a case.

John

You know what, fine. You're obviously going to drag this out as long as you fucking can. How about I let you keep half of the BTC stolen from me?

Now I should give you $600 for 2.5BTC?

Not a chance. I will take my chances hoping the police will actually do their jobs.

Fuck you dude. Fuck you. My financial privacy is more important than this. Scamming piece of shit. Just fucking keep it. You and I both know what this is about. You just fucking scammed me you fuck and you know I don't want to have my IP made public. Feel free dude. Go ahead. keep it. Release the escrow John K
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
May 23, 2013, 03:50:16 PM
#10
Here is the majority of the conversation after I provided timestamped with amount on each Moneypak with his name written on top.

So, MikeT, suggestions?

Any updates on this? I'm checking this on my phone, and if you guys can't resolve this later I'll request the complete information and evidence from both of you.

Thanks,
John

My bitcoin address is 1EArbAJeWZEst3ZS6H3mBGLcsuNdk7XH7y

I have sent all information to both parties. I will be back around 4pm EST.

 http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=61691411067479973975

Here is a video of me attempting to redeem both moneypaks.

Any updates?

The video does not work for me. It's only 0.883 MB - are you sure you captured that correctly? MikeT, can you try redeeming the funds and see what shows up? AFAIK if the funds were spent, it wouldn't state that the code were invalid.



I have called Green Dot and they have confirmed the codes have been redeemed and there is no remaining balance on either card. I can assume the cards worked for you?

I will confirm once I recieve the bitcoin in my wallet. I am so taken back by this. What else can I do? You both have images of MoneyPak card front and back with a picture of the receipt timestamped clearly showing the amount creditted to each card.

Please handle this properly juliansantiago. I don't deserve this.

Can you get the timestamps of the funds being redeemed ? I can only assume that one of you is lying here, and I wish I were around when you guys sent the moneypaks so that I can escrow the moneypak codes too.  Undecided

It's easy for either of you to lie here as a) The funds might be redeemed easily before being sent to the buyer, and b) The funds might be redeemed once the buyer gets the code, while he claims that the codes are DOA.

I'll talk to the admin on this, and possibly make a public thread on this later to analyse the issue.

Thanks,
John

Yes can we make this public, I feel like since I am new I am being taken advantage of. I shouldn't have done such a large amount at once to start off but I felt this was the most secure way off getting the quantity(well half) I am looking for.

I have shown my WoT with plenty of previous history. Even bought/sold using paypal without any issues, this was them sending first.

Please send me a link after you post so I can follow this, either way looks like I'm out $600 now.  

If you recall you wanted to do $1200 worth. I chose to do $600 because you were so new. If I was a scammer would I have asked you to lower the amount? Also you showed me a sealdeal WOT rating. That's not an OTC rating. You're a lying scamming asshole.

See bold.

Where did I say I have OTC rating?
I've sent in an enquiry with the admin to ask him check the IP's and etc.  Undecided Frankly, this is the first time in my 323 escrows that I've been faced with such a case.

John

Thank you. You can see him offering me a "buyout" now correct?

Go fuck yourself. Release the escrow John K

Address to release to is

1EArbAJeWZEst3ZS6H3mBGLcsuNdk7XH7y

Please confirm once release John K.

Funds sent as per agreement: https://blockchain.info/tx/8a89871c20194f48341ff021da4e1f7de11ae75e468d2f399925be298276013a

Thanks,
John

I think it's safe to say we know who redeemed the MoneyPak
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 501
May 23, 2013, 03:49:57 PM
#9
Im not going to get pulled into this shit. Mod can you please remove my account?
No. People with open accusations against them cannot have their account deleted.

AWESOME!  Unfortunately I have nothing else to contribute.
* Viceroy breaks out popcorn
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1015
May 23, 2013, 03:49:11 PM
#8
Yep, like I thought.  Please label this piece of shit the scammer that he is.

Thanks!
No, there is not yet any evidence of scamming.
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1015
May 23, 2013, 03:48:21 PM
#7
Im not going to get pulled into this shit. Mod can you please remove my account?
No. People with open accusations against them cannot have their account deleted.
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