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What about desktop wallet? Is it really so hard to release it?
They are rookies and have no clue how to code. all they are good at is marketing. look at it. Cloned monero, werent able to clone a monero wallet? with 40m USD raised? gimme a fucking break...
I think the entire point of the coin is that it's for non technical people to use on their mobile phones.  That's a huge market that most of the other coins haven't made the most of.  That's what they have been concentrating on.  Anyone can make a PC GUI wallet if they want, there's already one available.  Why would you want them wasting time doing what all the other coins have done?  There's already thousands of coins doing that.

BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING WAAAY LESS THAN OTHER COINS ARE DOING. Having desktop wallets is BASIC shit. Their WEB WALLET is NOT USABLE, so whats the HOLD UP on the regular wallets?! with that much money raised, they need to make sure to have a functional freaking wallet where people can send and receive coins from. I have 5k ETN stuck in their shitty webwallet since december. CANT TRADE CANT SEND. and you ask me why they need to make it?

Go eat a brick please
Lol, all you have to do is look on YouTube and follow a few basic instructions with the CLI wallet.  You can keep the brick.
newbie
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I wish you good luck, when you need to move the coins earned in mining

So...

My latest transaction: https://postimg.org/image/uny538urv/

Transaction ID: ef45adf27c2bda1285d220889c753b0bf52fdfec096e8410f0996d259b5de243

Explorer link: https://blockexplorer.electroneum.com/search?value=ef45adf27c2bda1285d220889c753b0bf52fdfec096e8410f0996d259b5de243

Cryptopia "Balances" tab: https://postimg.org/image/jbljlpefv/ (the amount is higher because of previous deposits)

The exact command I used to transfer ETN from my desktop wallet to Cryptopia was:

Code:
transfer etnjzKFU6ogESSKRZZbdqraPdcKVxEC17Cm1Xvbyy76PARQMmgrgceH4krAH6xmjKwJ3HtSAKuyFm1BBWYqtchtq9tBap8Qr4M 4008 44d48cee3ff1a31e24d93b4d643296bb30a52a68988fea2b49823dbcab73029f

Zero problems. Not sure how long it took to confirm, was busy with some other things but it was pretty quick, taken in account that we talk about Cryptopia here Smiley

So... Who's "right" now in whole this story? Where's the "scam" here?

I think you wanted to play the fool. You can continue to play around with blockchain internal transactions at will. That was never the point. Your money is stuck in there. The horror story begins when you will turn that into another currency. For this you will need an exchange and there is only one option. That's where the coup lives!

"Internal transactions"?? Wait a second, I don't understand... You don't believe me that I transferred this to Cryptopia or what?
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I wish you good luck, when you need to move the coins earned in mining




(original image link)
https://postimg.org/image/hrg7n6o0b/

Transaction ID: ef45adf27c2bda1285d220889c753b0bf52fdfec096e8410f0996d259b5de243

Explorer link: https://blockexplorer.electroneum.com/search?value=ef45adf27c2bda1285d220889c753b0bf52fdfec096e8410f0996d259b5de243

Will report again after 20 confirmations are completed...


NOW DO THIS ON WEB WALLET - I FUCKING DARE YOU
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 15
I wish you good luck, when you need to move the coins earned in mining

So...

My latest transaction: https://postimg.org/image/uny538urv/

Transaction ID: ef45adf27c2bda1285d220889c753b0bf52fdfec096e8410f0996d259b5de243

Explorer link: https://blockexplorer.electroneum.com/search?value=ef45adf27c2bda1285d220889c753b0bf52fdfec096e8410f0996d259b5de243

Cryptopia "Balances" tab: https://postimg.org/image/jbljlpefv/ (the amount is higher because of previous deposits)

The exact command I used to transfer ETN from my desktop wallet to Cryptopia was:

Code:
transfer etnjzKFU6ogESSKRZZbdqraPdcKVxEC17Cm1Xvbyy76PARQMmgrgceH4krAH6xmjKwJ3HtSAKuyFm1BBWYqtchtq9tBap8Qr4M 4008 44d48cee3ff1a31e24d93b4d643296bb30a52a68988fea2b49823dbcab73029f

Zero problems. Not sure how long it took to confirm, was busy with some other things but it was pretty quick, taken in account that we talk about Cryptopia here Smiley

So... Who's "right" now in whole this story? Where's the "scam" here?

I think you wanted to play the fool. You can continue to play around with blockchain internal transactions at will. That was never the point. Your money is stuck in there. The horror story begins when you will turn that into another currency. For this you will need an exchange and there is only one option. That's where the coup lives!
newbie
Activity: 58
Merit: 0
This thread explain all:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/something-isnt-right-about-electroneum-2321243

A team of social media marketing trying to play with blockchain. A product that only has marketing that can turn into a very serious blow if it continues like this.

If they want to get out of Viral Marketing direct to jail they are on the right track!
This is also what i've been worrying about electroneum. We all knew that their project has a lot of potential. But marketing it with some sort of problems specially on social media channels is really a bad move. It's being marketed and targeted amateurs who had no idea about how cryptocurrencies works. Even my colleague who certainly had no idea with electroneum just jumped in with the hype. The virality of Electroneum in our country is widespread now. It's been overvalued by amateurs of cryptocurrency. Now that the trading volume of ETN is low, i'm afraid, there will be some people who will loss bigtime when a bad news hits Electroneum. To devs, please continue on developing on your product instead of marketting it big time.

If only every person would care the same amount for every product in supermarkets.... This world would be way much better place ;)
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Healing Galing
This thread explain all:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/something-isnt-right-about-electroneum-2321243

A team of social media marketing trying to play with blockchain. A product that only has marketing that can turn into a very serious blow if it continues like this.

If they want to get out of Viral Marketing direct to jail they are on the right track!
This is also what i've been worrying about electroneum. We all knew that their project has a lot of potential. But marketing it with some sort of problems specially on social media channels is really a bad move. It's being marketed and targeted amateurs who had no idea about how cryptocurrencies works. Even my colleague who certainly had no idea with electroneum just jumped in with the hype. The virality of Electroneum in our country is widespread now. It's been overvalued by amateurs of cryptocurrency. Now that the trading volume of ETN is low, i'm afraid, there will be some people who will loss bigtime when a bad news hits Electroneum. To devs, please continue on developing on your product instead of marketting it big time.
newbie
Activity: 58
Merit: 0
I wish you good luck, when you need to move the coins earned in mining

So...

My latest transaction: https://postimg.org/image/uny538urv/

Transaction ID: ef45adf27c2bda1285d220889c753b0bf52fdfec096e8410f0996d259b5de243

Explorer link: https://blockexplorer.electroneum.com/search?value=ef45adf27c2bda1285d220889c753b0bf52fdfec096e8410f0996d259b5de243

Cryptopia "Balances" tab: https://postimg.org/image/jbljlpefv/ (the amount is higher because of previous deposits)

The exact command I used to transfer ETN from my desktop wallet to Cryptopia was:

Code:
transfer etnjzKFU6ogESSKRZZbdqraPdcKVxEC17Cm1Xvbyy76PARQMmgrgceH4krAH6xmjKwJ3HtSAKuyFm1BBWYqtchtq9tBap8Qr4M 4008 44d48cee3ff1a31e24d93b4d643296bb30a52a68988fea2b49823dbcab73029f

Zero problems. Not sure how long it took to confirm, was busy with some other things but it was pretty quick, taken in account that we talk about Cryptopia here :)

So... Who's "right" now in whole this story? Where's the "scam" here?
newbie
Activity: 58
Merit: 0
I wish you good luck, when you need to move the coins earned in mining


https://postimg.org/image/hrg7n6o0b/

(original image link)
https://postimg.org/image/hrg7n6o0b/

Transaction ID: ef45adf27c2bda1285d220889c753b0bf52fdfec096e8410f0996d259b5de243

Explorer link: https://blockexplorer.electroneum.com/search?value=ef45adf27c2bda1285d220889c753b0bf52fdfec096e8410f0996d259b5de243

Will report again after 20 confirmations are completed...
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 15
I wish you good luck, when you need to move the coins earned in mining
newbie
Activity: 58
Merit: 0
This thread explain all:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/something-isnt-right-about-electroneum-2321243

A team of social media marketing trying to play with blockchain. A product that only has marketing that can turn into a very serious blow if it continues like this.


"A team of social media marketing trying to play with blockchain."

Ok, now THIS is something I could agree with 100%!!! But this is far away from the "scam". Definition of "scam" is way different than "group of people who are trying to do something which they know nothing about".
The thing you said is not applicable to ETN only however... I've been working for IT companies which were led by marketing team for this or that reason. I strongly disagree with this kind of work, but then again, all these companies are still operational nowadays and have decent amount of money and development team. I am surprised that they managed to go that far this way, but they did. For whichever reason in this world...

I personally don't care about their plans, mobile wallet, mobile miner, mobile paying or whatever they are "promising". If I would go that way, I would have 0% trust in all the projects since each and every one has something which just doesn't fit in my personal picture :) I am mostly just mining ETN because it is the easiest and most profitable with my current equipment. Before I started to mine it, I researched the team a little bit, checked out few links which I usually do before investing in any coin in any way and decided to give it a shot. I wasn't 100% confident in the project, neither I am still today, but unfortunately, that's the crypto world for you nowadays... Perfect platform for scamming and there's plenty of scammers who see the opportunity. If you fall on a scam, don't forget, it is your own fault! I did fall for one or two myself and I learned my lesson the harder way. This is not the reason to go around and bitch about it, especially since there's thousands of other people already doing it...

And again, don't forget who's fault is that transfers are failing, Electroneum's or someone else's!
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 15
This thread explain all:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/something-isnt-right-about-electroneum-2321243

A team of social media marketing trying to play with blockchain. A product that only has marketing that can turn into a very serious blow if it continues like this.

If they want to get out of Viral Marketing direct to jail they are on the right track!
member
Activity: 140
Merit: 10
ZEN
What about desktop wallet? Is it really so hard to release it?
They are rookies and have no clue how to code. all they are good at is marketing. look at it. Cloned monero, werent able to clone a monero wallet? with 40m USD raised? gimme a fucking break...
I think the entire point of the coin is that it's for non technical people to use on their mobile phones.  That's a huge market that most of the other coins haven't made the most of.  That's what they have been concentrating on.  Anyone can make a PC GUI wallet if they want, there's already one available.  Why would you want them wasting time doing what all the other coins have done?  There's already thousands of coins doing that.

BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING WAAAY LESS THAN OTHER COINS ARE DOING. Having desktop wallets is BASIC shit. Their WEB WALLET is NOT USABLE, so whats the HOLD UP on the regular wallets?! with that much money raised, they need to make sure to have a functional freaking wallet where people can send and receive coins from. I have 5k ETN stuck in their shitty webwallet since december. CANT TRADE CANT SEND. and you ask me why they need to make it?

Go eat a brick please
newbie
Activity: 58
Merit: 0

We might blame the team for "not trying to resolve Creeptopia problems", but I'm not sure if they are trying to solve this or not in the first place... Maybe they hit the wall of shady Creeptopia and struggling with them in the same way we do...

Is cryptopia not Creeptopia

It's a joke if you still didn't get it, just like YoShit and SHiTBTC... Simply because they don't deserve to be called in any other way. Very shady and technically completely crappy exchanges.
newbie
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Glad you could see the point.

Now maybe the bomb where everyone is sitting here is more exposed.

Are your coins safe in your wallet? Cool!

 Leave there forever or Good luck with the limbo.

Just in the last hours:
https://twitter.com/Moumita7770/status/954253266598092801
https://twitter.com/AgusIronman/status/954242385554231296
https://twitter.com/Adithya29352381/status/954238931976929281
https://twitter.com/Muuureee/status/954069698211143680

From the links provided, I really cannot tell who did and who didn't use the "payment ID" which is REQUIRED by Creeptopia. It says there when you want to deposit. In red letters.
If you have a Twitter account (I personally don't), try to ask those people if they used payment ID, and if they did't, why they didn't...

I personally transferred few times with no problems whatsoever. I know bunch of people who are actually mining directly there, never had a single problem with transactions. We can go like this forever, you providing the links with people who failed and me providing words/experience from people who never had a problem... It won't solve anything, neither it will help ETN in any way. This is Creeptopia's problem, and their problem only.

Just to be clear here... I am not "defending" ETN in any way. I am not saying that they are 100% legit, trustworthy and super-active team. I know nothing about those people except from the links they provided (LinkedIn profiles mostly, which btw, majority of projects/coins never did).
I'm just trying to say that they are doing the same like majority of "projects" in this world - pumping the marketing, promising products which are delayed and similar... This is all perfectly normal, especially in cryptocurrencies world. Since I am developer myself, I perfectly understand what means to "deliver a working product" and how much hassle there is around one. That's one of the reasons I am not so much worried if they broke the deadline or two. This is more than normal in programming world, especially if you have a small dev team. I'd rather wait a bit longer and have a good program than rushing the deadlines and delivering something which is barely usable.

I really hope that you and all the other ETN users will be able to solve the transferring issues, but unfortunately, I don't see how ETN team can help anyone in this matter.
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We might blame the team for "not trying to resolve Creeptopia problems", but I'm not sure if they are trying to solve this or not in the first place... Maybe they hit the wall of shady Creeptopia and struggling with them in the same way we do...

Is cryptopia not Creeptopia
member
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Glad you could see the point.

Now maybe the bomb where everyone is sitting here is more exposed.

Are your coins safe in your wallet? Cool!

 Leave there forever or Good luck with the limbo.

Just in the last hours:
https://twitter.com/Moumita7770/status/954253266598092801
https://twitter.com/AgusIronman/status/954242385554231296
https://twitter.com/Adithya29352381/status/954238931976929281
https://twitter.com/Muuureee/status/954069698211143680



newbie
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Alright, I agree. The question here is which side "scammed" you exactly?

Did you have your own personal ETN in your own personal wallet? YES.
Were you able to use this wallet to send/receive ETN? YES.
Were you able to manipulate with this ETN in any way (e.g. transfer it to a different address)? YES.
Was the transaction successful? YES.
Did the blockchain verify the transaction and is everything OK on that side? YES.

Do you have keys or any other access to the other wallet where you transferred your funds? NO.
Do you see the amount transferred on the address you sent it to? NO.

In my mind, all the "YES" answers are directly related to Electroneum and it's network. All the "NO" answers are related to Cryptopia only and no one else. So, 1+1 is....?

If I were you, I'd go around and spread FUD about Creeptopia, SHiTBTC, YoShit and other similar shady exchanges, not the coin(s) itself...

If you are one of the team members of this "revolutionary coin" and you saw that a 100% perfect transaction did not reach users in the only exchange you have to offer to your users buy your revolucionary coin, what do you do?

1 - Ignore completely, after all we are sitting on almost 1 billion dollars and we have already stuck our goal.
2 - Do something urgent for these users to be reimbursed to avoid FUD on a serious project.

Wait 1 month and know the answer

I agree with you once again, and all the things you are saying are 100% reasonable... I have no answer for "why the team doesn't do anything about it"... Really don't know... Maybe they really can't do shit about it. The fact that they are not "reimbursing" is out of the discussion, because there's no one in this world who will do this for you.

We might blame the team for "not trying to resolve Creeptopia problems", but I'm not sure if they are trying to solve this or not in the first place... Maybe they hit the wall of shady Creeptopia and struggling with them in the same way we do...
member
Activity: 84
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Alright, I agree. The question here is which side "scammed" you exactly?

Did you have your own personal ETN in your own personal wallet? YES.
Were you able to use this wallet to send/receive ETN? YES.
Were you able to manipulate with this ETN in any way (e.g. transfer it to a different address)? YES.
Was the transaction successful? YES.
Did the blockchain verify the transaction and is everything OK on that side? YES.

Do you have keys or any other access to the other wallet where you transferred your funds? NO.
Do you see the amount transferred on the address you sent it to? NO.

In my mind, all the "YES" answers are directly related to Electroneum and it's network. All the "NO" answers are related to Cryptopia only and no one else. So, 1+1 is....?

If I were you, I'd go around and spread FUD about Creeptopia, SHiTBTC, YoShit and other similar shady exchanges, not the coin(s) itself...

If you are one of the team members of this "revolutionary coin" and you saw that a 100% perfect transaction did not reach users in the only exchange you have to offer to your users to buy your revolucionary coin, what do you do?

1 - Ignore completely, after all we are sitting on almost 1 billion dollars and we have already stuck our goal.
2 - Do something urgent for these users to be reimbursed to avoid FUD on a serious project.

Wait 1 month and know the answer.

I waited my month and I already know the answer
newbie
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There are many holes indeed, not only in "this" story, but literally with each and every coin around.

Still, this doesn't mean that this project is a scam, right?

If you can point out some technical error in this transaction I can agree with you. Otherwise, if a transaction like this does not work, we have a scam here.

https://blockexplorer.electroneum.com/prove/1e251efb652c0570ae3bcdd6a22d475c41284fa5cb75cf1dca1a4070da937dd4/etnjzKFU6ogESSKRZZbdqraPdcKVxEC17Cm1Xvbyy76PARQMmgrgceH4krAH6xmjKwJ3HtSAKuyFm1BBWYqtchtq9tBap8Qr4M/9dfe1823409dca7409f58789ed01e2aa3d4d9f4e1e6af558e7e34d3c490e6b08

Alright, I agree. The question here is which side "scammed" you exactly?

Did you have your own personal ETN in your own personal wallet? YES.
Were you able to use this wallet to send/receive ETN? YES.
Were you able to manipulate with this ETN in any way (e.g. transfer it to a different address)? YES.
Was the transaction successful? YES.
Did the blockchain verify the transaction and is everything OK on that side? YES.

Do you have keys or any other access to the other wallet where you transferred your funds? NO.
Do you see the amount transferred on the address you sent it to? NO.

In my mind, all the "YES" answers are directly related to Electroneum and it's network. All the "NO" answers are related to Cryptopia only and no one else. So, 1+1 is....?

If I were you, I'd go around and spread FUD about Creeptopia, SHiTBTC, YoShit and other similar shady exchanges, not the coin(s) itself...
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There are many holes indeed, not only in "this" story, but literally with each and every coin around.

Still, this doesn't mean that this project is a scam, right?

If you can point out some technical error in this transaction I can agree with you. Otherwise, if a transaction like this does not work, we have a scam here.

https://blockexplorer.electroneum.com/prove/1e251efb652c0570ae3bcdd6a22d475c41284fa5cb75cf1dca1a4070da937dd4/etnjzKFU6ogESSKRZZbdqraPdcKVxEC17Cm1Xvbyy76PARQMmgrgceH4krAH6xmjKwJ3HtSAKuyFm1BBWYqtchtq9tBap8Qr4M/9dfe1823409dca7409f58789ed01e2aa3d4d9f4e1e6af558e7e34d3c490e6b08
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