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Topic: Open Discussion of Just-Dice - page 2. (Read 7682 times)

sr. member
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September 22, 2013, 05:39:22 AM
#26
When players lose it's suspicious and when the casino lose it's suspicious. Oh well.

It depends where is your money Tongue
legendary
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The Concierge of Crypto
September 22, 2013, 04:37:07 AM
#25
Don't forget the gamblers who took a casino for millions of dollars in Atlantic City because the casino did not use pre-shuffled decks.

In any case, I invite dooglus to come say something here, since he is the one being accused. Something like "I would never do that. blah blah blah."

Or, I think even better, he will just not respond to this as it is beneath him.

Some people value honor higher than life. Some people can not be bought. Some people have their word as their bond.

I claim to be one of those people, and I do believe dooglus is also one of those kinds of people. (okay, I am not the type of Asian who will commit suicide if I lose my honor though.)
legendary
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September 22, 2013, 04:21:29 AM
#24
I'm also glad you redacted your accusation.  Maybe you should alter the title header of this thread as well?
member
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September 22, 2013, 12:36:00 AM
#23
I would like the redact my claims.  It seems I let my bias get the best of me and I don't like baseless scam accusations from others on the forum, so it seems that I should hold myself to the same standard.

While I still believe certain things are suspicious about the big JD losses, I would like nothing more than an open discussion of it.  Thank you all and apologizes for coming off so strong.

Rare case of cognitive dissonance losing out to rational thought.  I commend you Daggett993.
hero member
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Bitcoin: The People's Bailout
September 21, 2013, 08:55:01 PM
#22
I'll acknowledge that the domain argument is not very powerful, however it is clear that my concern is not unwarranted.  It is very improbable for a casino to receive 1.2M bitcoins wagered and still tread far below their expected profit.

Not improbable when one guy does single bets that high (100-500 btc a go). As I wrote in the other thread, many players had doubled/tripled or even more small bankrolls, eventually losing. Not so surprising for a guy with a 10k+ bankroll to win 8k (80%).

It's like winning 8 btc starting with 10, doing 0.1-0.5 btc single bets. Not unlikely at all, seen it hundreds of times.

Yes, not improbable at all.  In fact, I once personally turned a $500 bankroll into $4000 in one weekend betting on red and black at a roulette wheel in Atlantic City; and roulette has a much higher house edge and a much lower max bet (and higher minimum bet).
hero member
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Bitcoin: The People's Bailout
September 21, 2013, 08:47:19 PM
#21
I would like the redact my claims.  It seems I let my bias get the best of me and I don't like baseless scam accusations from others on the forum, so it seems that I should hold myself to the same standard.

While I still believe certain things are suspicious about the big JD losses, I would like nothing more than an open discussion of it.  Thank you all and apologizes for coming off so strong.

I commend you as well for redacting your accusations.  I understand it's tough to stomach a 50 BTC loss, but that doesn't justify attacking someone's character.  Dooglus took some losses himself a few weeks ago when the whales took JD's bankroll into the red.  You just have to realize that an investment in a gambling site with a 1% house edge and ~500 BTC max bet is going to experience a lot of variance.
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Expert Computer Geek
September 21, 2013, 08:04:49 PM
#20
I would like the redact my claims.  It seems I let my bias get the best of me and I don't like baseless scam accusations from others on the forum, so it seems that I should hold myself to the same standard.

While I still believe certain things are suspicious about the big JD losses, I would like nothing more than an open discussion of it.  Thank you all and apologizes for coming off so strong.

nigle please wtf we were getting ready to release the hounds.. Wink LOL
sr. member
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♫ the AM bear who cares ♫
September 21, 2013, 07:41:17 PM
#19
I would like the redact my claims.  It seems I let my bias get the best of me and I don't like baseless scam accusations from others on the forum, so it seems that I should hold myself to the same standard.

While I still believe certain things are suspicious about the big JD losses, I would like nothing more than an open discussion of it.  Thank you all and apologizes for coming off so strong.

I think it's great that you did that, most people defend being right like the holy grail or just disappear when their arguments don't hold up.

I agree as well. Accountability is often notably absent on these forums. This was big of you. Even if you can't control your bias (understandable after your losses), you can control your ego.

Thank you for setting a standard for rational discussion.
full member
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September 21, 2013, 07:36:04 PM
#18
I love how every time the site makes a significant loss, people come out of the wood work and accuse dooglus of being a scammer.
newbie
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September 21, 2013, 06:02:30 PM
#17
Of all the idiocy I have ever seen on this site, this takes the cake.

+1
sr. member
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September 21, 2013, 05:38:35 PM
#16
I would like the redact my claims.  It seems I let my bias get the best of me and I don't like baseless scam accusations from others on the forum, so it seems that I should hold myself to the same standard.

While I still believe certain things are suspicious about the big JD losses, I would like nothing more than an open discussion of it.  Thank you all and apologizes for coming off so strong.

I think it's great that you did that, most people defend being right like the holy grail or just disappear when their arguments don't hold up.

vip
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September 21, 2013, 05:25:19 PM
#15
When players lose it's suspicious and when the casino lose it's suspicious. Oh well.
newbie
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September 21, 2013, 05:16:58 PM
#14
I would like the redact my claims.  It seems I let my bias get the best of me and I don't like baseless scam accusations from others on the forum, so it seems that I should hold myself to the same standard.

While I still believe certain things are suspicious about the big JD losses, I would like nothing more than an open discussion of it.  Thank you all and apologizes for coming off so strong.
member
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Expert Computer Geek
September 21, 2013, 02:41:13 PM
#13
=v\/v\/v\/v=delusions of grandeur eXpert !



 Grin Grin Grin Grin

-*-jmho-*-
member
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Expert Computer Geek
September 21, 2013, 02:38:21 PM
#12
Of all the idiocy I have ever seen on this site, this takes the cake.

how absurd to try and attempt to identify bad actors when you get ffked!!!=)LOL
hero member
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September 21, 2013, 02:06:48 PM
#11
legendary
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September 21, 2013, 02:01:13 PM
#10
Of all the idiocy I have ever seen on this site, this takes the cake.
member
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Expert Computer Geek
September 21, 2013, 11:42:30 AM
#9
sr. member
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September 21, 2013, 04:21:28 AM
#8
 ahahahha , I once said this as a joke , never thought people would actually believe in something like this Cheesy If doog made this , he could have taken 50k+ and run at certain point (just-dice was invested 30K+ at one point) so why would he scam 1-2k ? when he could have taken 30 times more Cheesy If someone steals 50k , you will never hear from that person ever again , not even fbi will find him for that amount of money Cheesy ask saul goodman he can find you the guy who can dissapear you for 250k dollars Cheesy
legendary
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Crypto entrepreneur and consultant
September 21, 2013, 04:21:22 AM
#7
I'll acknowledge that the domain argument is not very powerful, however it is clear that my concern is not unwarranted.  It is very improbable for a casino to receive 1.2M bitcoins wagered and still tread far below their expected profit.

Not improbable when one guy does single bets that high (100-500 btc a go). As I wrote in the other thread, many players had doubled/tripled or even more small bankrolls, eventually losing. Not so surprising for a guy with a 10k+ bankroll to win 8k (80%).

It's like winning 8 btc starting with 10, doing 0.1-0.5 btc single bets. Not unlikely at all, seen it hundreds of times.
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