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For me, Bayern Munich is more of a team that doesn't spend a lot of money on player transfers and they're doing the right thing with that. But German teams are generally economical with transfers, which I think is a good thing, other leagues should also take this as a role model.

I definitely agree with that. In general i would also say that german clubs are handling their money very reasonably. There are a few exceptions to that like FC Schalke that still has debts of around 150 Million € but they are also on a good way to get rid of those debts step after step. Dortmund was also almost broke like 15 years ago or so, but they also learned from that but are now a financially healthy club.
The total opposite can be seen in Spain. Barca has debts of 1,3 Billion € thats why they had to sell their TV rights, their Merchandise brand and others stuff which brought them around 600 Million or so, but instead of using that money to pay back a part of their debts they want to spend a big part of it for new players like Lewandowski. It really seems that Barca has learned absolutely nothing and Real also has more than 600 Million € of debts.

It is very interesting indeed the policy of buying players from the Bundesliga teams, where they often buy players that are not too expensive,
however when selling players it can be very high. Especially Dortmund in the last few seasons they managed to sell players at very high prices,
so Dortmund is a club that has very healthy finances at the moment. Even during a pandemic situation, Dortmund including a team that does
not experience financial problems, because they manage their finances well.

But Dortmund's weakness is they don't prioritize trophies, although Dortmund have good finances, their performance is poor. The most ideal
may be Bayern, even this season's transfer market Bayern spend relatively small fees to bring in some new players. There is no question about
Bayern's achievements, not only dominating in the Bundesliga, Bayern has also won the Champions League trophy several times. Looks like
Barcelona really have a lot to learn from the Bundesliga teams, Barcelona's finances are very worrying right now, even Barcelona have to sacrifice
their players to experience a pay cut.
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For me, Bayern Munich is more of a team that doesn't spend a lot of money on player transfers and they're doing the right thing with that. But German teams are generally economical with transfers, which I think is a good thing, other leagues should also take this as a role model.

I definitely agree with that. In general i would also say that german clubs are handling their money very reasonably. There are a few exceptions to that like FC Schalke that still has debts of around 150 Million € but they are also on a good way to get rid of those debts step after step. Dortmund was also almost broke like 15 years ago or so, but they also learned from that but are now a financially healthy club.
The total opposite can be seen in Spain. Barca has debts of 1,3 Billion € thats why they had to sell their TV rights, their Merchandise brand and others stuff which brought them around 600 Million or so, but instead of using that money to pay back a part of their debts they want to spend a big part of it for new players like Lewandowski. It really seems that Barca has learned absolutely nothing and Real also has more than 600 Million € of debts.
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I've read that Bayern munich is trying to sign in Mattias De ligt from Juve for the next year for a sum of 80 m€  Shocked

I think that it is really ridicolous considering that De light is not so strong, in juventus he hasn't made some good things, hope that Bayern will not buy him, it would be a waste of money in my opinion.

There is some news now about De Ligt and Bayern and it is reported that what I read from Fabrizio Romano's tweet is that representatives from Bayern are now going to Juventus and talking about the transfer of De Ligt with 70 million plus ad ons there.
I think De Ligt is most likely now going to the Alianz arena especially in this case a few days ago someone said that De Ligt and Bayern had reached an agreement personally.
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I agree with that, there is a good reason why Dortmund is not buying players right? I mean they have sold so many great players for the past 2 seasons and they did not get any players that would make a big change. I am expecting them to make a huge purchase, like maybe 20-25 million euros worth of few players. That should be a lot more important for them right now because they lost Haaland and he was the player that made so much difference.
If they do not get a super striker then they would not be doing anything at all. We should be expecting them to do something or they are going to get worse. Look at Bayern, they are literally getting players that would make them so much better.

What do you expect? They already bought Haller as a main striker. Do you think they will buy another striker? They bought Adeyemi so they have two new strikers. Besides that they spent more money than they got, so I don't really understand how you follow them. Money come from Haaland already gone to Haller and Adeyemi and they also spent twenty more to buy Schlotterbeck for defense. I'm all in for signing more star players but is club finance up to it? I don't think they will spend more money without selling players.
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Bayern Munich get stronger and stronger season after season.
As far as I can tell Dortmund has never been a good and big competitor's for Bayern Munich.
I don't think Bayern Munich is getting stronger but it is their competitors like Borussia Dortmund who are not improving themselves to be able to compete with Bayern Munich. If you look from season to season, actually the squad that Bayern Munich has does not have many significant changes, but they are able to maintain their game. But I don't see that in other Bundesliga teams.
I agree with that, there is a good reason why Dortmund is not buying players right? I mean they have sold so many great players for the past 2 seasons and they did not get any players that would make a big change. I am expecting them to make a huge purchase, like maybe 20-25 million euros worth of few players. That should be a lot more important for them right now because they lost Haaland and he was the player that made so much difference.

If they do not get a super striker then they would not be doing anything at all. We should be expecting them to do something or they are going to get worse. Look at Bayern, they are literally getting players that would make them so much better.
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But it's quite difficult now, even if they are still trying to bargain but I think the result will still be the same and Barcelona must also be aware of their financial strength now.
It would be better if Barcelona didn't have high expectations for this, regardless of what will happen for them next season I think they should know that bringing in more players will only add to their problems.

As for Lewandowski, it is almost certain that there is no club that has an interest in him again.
Few days back a strict announcement from Bayern Munich sporting director maybe it's shut up call for Barcelona which is already having serious troubles regarding their finances and right now they are working on this, but results are not positive because debit is more than their income, and it's going to be dangerous for them in near future if they are not going to work on this and trying for buying players which is the problem for them instead of having any relief.

Bayern Munich is very strong in finances and right now they are working on few players to be in their squad for having more strength which could be helpful for them in coming season as they are also going to face some challenges from Borussia Dortmund in Bundesliga and Champions League which is going to be more entertaining with few strong opponents.
In this case Bayern already know their financial capacity and there is no need to sell Lewandowski and hold him until he becomes a free agent which is good enough for them because they are not short on money.
But today I saw reports that Barcelona will make a new deal with Bayern and have already prepared around 50 million which will be paid directly.
It looks like this will be a new chapter in Lewandowski's drama.
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According to the news, Barcelona are really desperate to get Lewandowski and are ready to make a fourth offer to Bayern that will satisfy all of Bayern's demands (50 million in one payment). In addition, PSG is allegedly interested in Lewandowski (which allows Bayern to have a strong position in trade with Barcelona). I think the puzzle will go like this: Lewandowski goes to Barcelona, De Jong to United and Bayern sign Ronaldo.
This could still be possible, even though there is a lot of discussion between Lewandowski, De Jong and Ronaldo, it is still very likely that they will change clubs next season because currently the conversation is only about a deal or not and deciding whether the price is appropriate or not.
If the Barcelona club dares to pay the price that Bayern wants then this can happen, besides that for MU it's also the same if they pay according to Barcelona's wishes then this will be OK but in this case MU deserves to hold on because the price offered is quite large and they does not have to agree to the payment of de Jong's salary arrears.
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Bayern Munich are really after de Ligt currently but for now it seems like just an interest. I haven't heard of an official offer yet. Chelsea are in this race also and I see Bayern Munich one step ahead of them. But the opinion of the player is the most important point here of course. de Ligt can be an important part of the team if he stays at Juventus. Because Chiellini has left the team. If he doesn't desire a move out of Italy then Bayern Munich and Chelsea both might be unsuccessful about signing him. Unless they pay the release clause amount of course.  Grin
I was surprised to read the news that de ligt was more interested in the new offer made by bayern. even the issue is that Bayern want to make the transfer de ligt the most expensive in the club's history. I really never think that Bayern was so focused on improving their defense by buying expensive defenders.
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I've read that Bayern munich is trying to sign in Mattias De ligt from Juve for the next year for a sum of 80 m€  Shocked

I think that it is really ridicolous considering that De light is not so strong, in juventus he hasn't made some good things, hope that Bayern will not buy him, it would be a waste of money in my opinion.

De ligt is a young player with potential so it's natural that the price is so expensive, but I don't think that Bayern Munich will sign him because from the beginning Bayern teams rarely buy expensive players they tend to buy potential players at cheap prices.
This is just a rumor, because De Ligt doesn't feel at home with Juventus anymore, so he has been associated with several other teams. in fact now De ligt is very close to Chelsea.
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Bayern Munich are really after de Ligt currently but for now it seems like just an interest. I haven't heard of an official offer yet. Chelsea are in this race also and I see Bayern Munich one step ahead of them. But the opinion of the player is the most important point here of course. de Ligt can be an important part of the team if he stays at Juventus. Because Chiellini has left the team. If he doesn't desire a move out of Italy then Bayern Munich and Chelsea both might be unsuccessful about signing him. Unless they pay the release clause amount of course.  Grin

For me, Bayern Munich is more of a team that doesn't spend a lot of money on player transfers and they're doing the right thing with that. But German teams are generally economical with transfers, which I think is a good thing, other leagues should also take this as a role model.
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Bayern Munich are really after de Ligt currently but for now it seems like just an interest. I haven't heard of an official offer yet. Chelsea are in this race also and I see Bayern Munich one step ahead of them. But the opinion of the player is the most important point here of course. de Ligt can be an important part of the team if he stays at Juventus. Because Chiellini has left the team. If he doesn't desire a move out of Italy then Bayern Munich and Chelsea both might be unsuccessful about signing him. Unless they pay the release clause amount of course.  Grin
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That's a very natural thing, I also think that at the end of the competition it is always Bayern Munich who won the German league trophy. Because in terms of struggle and consistency, Bayern Munich players are always better than Dortmund, although the Dortmund team's overall game is not so bad because Dortmund can also compete for the German league trophy.
No doubt what ever hard competition always Bayern Munich is the winner on Bundesliga and they have bigger chance how keep consistent get trophy every season, I think with completed team and always dominance on every match no doubt keep favorite on the first list with Bayern Munich as close team with Bundesliga trophy next season, looking on transfer activities only Bayern Munich serious how to get star player like Sadio Mane, maybe Dortmund and Leipzig could be team will give fighting for Bayern Munich to get trophy, but looks they always not consistent performance and losing chance before several match ended.
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I've read that Bayern munich is trying to sign in Mattias De ligt from Juve for the next year for a sum of 80 m€  Shocked

I think that it is really ridicolous considering that De light is not so strong, in juventus he hasn't made some good things, hope that Bayern will not buy him, it would be a waste of money in my opinion.
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Bayern Munich get stronger and stronger season after season.
As far as I can tell Dortmund has never been a good and big competitor's for Bayern Munich.
I don't think Bayern Munich is getting stronger but it is their competitors like Borussia Dortmund who are not improving themselves to be able to compete with Bayern Munich. If you look from season to season, actually the squad that Bayern Munich has does not have many significant changes, but they are able to maintain their game. But I don't see that in other Bundesliga teams.
Agree, even though last season Dortmund actually had a chance to win the title, but what can we do, Haaland as a key player often gets injured. Moreover, in the new season Haaland will not play for Dortmund and this makes the Dortmund squad not always get a more solid chemistry, if Dortmund can keep Haaland for at least one more season then it is very likely that Dortmund will win the Bundesliga title. But what happened to Dortmund they kept repeating the same way, the case did not make them stronger because they always had a new main squad with new players.
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Bayern Munich get stronger and stronger season after season.
As far as I can tell Dortmund has never been a good and big competitor's for Bayern Munich.
I don't think Bayern Munich is getting stronger but it is their competitors like Borussia Dortmund who are not improving themselves to be able to compete with Bayern Munich. If you look from season to season, actually the squad that Bayern Munich has does not have many significant changes, but they are able to maintain their game. But I don't see that in other Bundesliga teams.
I can't tell if Bayern is getting stronger in every season because Bayern has no competitors,  no challenge,  they still manage to retain their position every season. In the next season Bayern may be different from how it use be in previous season if Ronaldo is sign into the club and their target will be how to win the Champions League.  Bayern Munich performance in the championship will tell if really the club is getting tougher.
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They have not yet refused the deal, but demand guarantees that Barcelona will pay in one payment without any installments. In my opinion, this is a completely natural demand, since everyone knows that Barcelona is in a difficult financial situation - no one wants to be a creditor of a (potential) bankrupt. Barcelona cannot even sell De Jong due to debts to him, but in doing so they are trying to make a big deal for the purchase  Grin

As far as I've heard about Barcelona, if they don't sell De Jong now, they won't be able to sign Lewandowski. They don’t have enough money. They continue to try to raise funds. Barcelona is a renowned club. My guess is that if Bayern Munich want to sell Lewandowski, Barcelona will raise funds anyway. Xavi is now very interested in bringing Lewandowski to the team.

According to the news, Barcelona are really desperate to get Lewandowski and are ready to make a fourth offer to Bayern that will satisfy all of Bayern's demands (50 million in one payment). In addition, PSG is allegedly interested in Lewandowski (which allows Bayern to have a strong position in trade with Barcelona). I think the puzzle will go like this: Lewandowski goes to Barcelona, De Jong to United and Bayern sign Ronaldo.
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Bayern Munich get stronger and stronger season after season.
As far as I can tell Dortmund has never been a good and big competitor's for Bayern Munich.
I don't think Bayern Munich is getting stronger but it is their competitors like Borussia Dortmund who are not improving themselves to be able to compete with Bayern Munich. If you look from season to season, actually the squad that Bayern Munich has does not have many significant changes, but they are able to maintain their game. But I don't see that in other Bundesliga teams.
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Dortmund are looking for talent, not star players. that's the difference between Dortmund movement with other teams in the transfer market this summer. So it's no wonder Dortmund have been very active in the transfer market this summer as Dortmund just lost their star Erling Haaland this summer. In the Bundesliga, Dortmund is indeed a tight competition for bayern in the race for the title, but at the end of the competition it is always Bayern who won the German league trophy.

It is what Dortmund have been doing for a long time, yeah. They must have enough money to bring the biggest star players in the world for sure but their vision is not that I'm afraid. Erling Haaland was the biggest example for this. They signed him for not a significant amount of money and they did this when not many number of people knew about him. But after that they helped him shine in the Bundesliga and everyone knows about him now. They would continue to keep this vision for a long time.
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Dortmund managed to secure the deal with ajax striker haller it is a good deal especially after haaland departure, haller is an excelent player he was the eredivisie top scorer last season and he was one of the top in the champions league so i think he will be successfull in the bundesliga, especially because he has a similar play style with haaland.
I honestly can't compare and say that Haller will be able to replace Haaland now. I still want to see how far Haller will contribute to Borussia Dortmund. I hope he can do better or at least match what Haaland did to bring Borussia Dortmund into competition with Bayern Munich. Because after all I want the Bundesliga to be more competitive.
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Dortmund managed to secure the deal with ajax striker haller it is a good deal especially after haaland departure, haller is an excelent player he was the eredivisie top scorer last season and he was one of the top in the champions league so i think he will be successfull in the bundesliga, especially because he has a similar play style with haaland.
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