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June 19, 2023, 04:21:15 PM
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Last season before it started, it was the Boston Celtics deemed as the favorite to crown as champions and it stayed that way until the end of the regular season. I wonder which team would be favored in the next season. At the current rosters, my bet is on Denver Nuggets the defending champions, or the Phoenix Suns. With Beal, the Suns once again have 4 All-Star starters and looked stronger than the previous season.

I am pretty sure that there are many teams that are interested in Chris Paul. A buyout is very possible knowing that the current Wizards team is not at the same level as the other top teams. And if I were Christ Paul, I will spend my last years in the NBA on a serious team as much as possible.
Celtics will still be up there as one of the favorites. How about taking CP3 in exchange of Smart? I think that will be a good deal for both teams since Wizards will likely let go of him anyway. Celtics will get a real point guard and a veteran at that to finally push this team. Chris Paul should have no problem in this since he'll be in a good team while Tatum and Brown will benefit from his mentorship.

That should be good if the Wizards will just accept a 1:1 trade for Marcus Smart in exchange for Chris Paul towards the Boston Celtics, but I really doubt that though because even if the latter is not the player he used to be, he still have a good figure in his head and that could really cost the Celtics some few picks or at least players just to get Chris Paul on their line up. Overall, it will be big help for the team if they are able to get CP3.
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June 19, 2023, 04:11:51 PM
The Suns hope that this new trio will work, or else they will fail even to have a chance to reach the NBA playoffs next season.

Has there been a new trio formed already? I believe both CP3 and Ayton will be offloaded from the team, so the player that will hopefully join will fit the system of the Phoenix Suns. This is actually quite challenging because they have a new coach, and the success of the system hasn't been tested yet compared to the coach who was previously fired.

If it were Bradley Beal, do you think it would work? What would be the trade, CP3 + Ayton for Bradley Beal? I believe they would be sending a lot of players in exchange for one, similar to what they did when they acquired Durant.

CP3 and Shamet with 2nd round picks. If I read it correctly, it would be a best trade for Wizard if both Paul and Ayton
but it's not, though they still got something good for their veteran star.

Now, it will be more on the Sun's rotations if how the new coach will rotate the ball, as all the 3 superstars do want to hold the ball.

Individual talents, they might have that edge, but overall performance, we will see how they will go to
blend each other, one whole season for this new coach and for the stars to jive up and blend together.

Well, I'm not even sure either if this is going to work out with the Suns now. I still think CP3 was still a good fit with the Suns roster than Beal. I mean Beal is just another scoring machine who can creat his own shots and who averages 20+ ppg and 4+ asst. With 3 scoring machines, they can have more options when one is having an off night, but it's a team play. I'd still pick the current Nuggets roster over this current Suns roster.
I think the Suns are just a bit impatient and are very desperate to win a championship, thus stacking more superstars I highly doubt this will work.
Anyway, let's see what will be the Lakers and the Warriors next move.
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June 19, 2023, 03:19:19 PM
The Brooklyn Nets are trying to make a deal with the Pelicans to get Zion Williamson for Ben Simmons and a whole bunch of draft picks.  This seems like a terrible deal for both teams if I'm being honest.  The Pelicans getting Ben Simmons would pretty much destroy their team in my opinion and kick off a rebuild with their picks.  Meanwhile the Nets would give up all their picks assuring that they suck for years while picking up Zion, who has been injury prone and won't be there to carry the team.  Both teams are a disaster, but the Pelicans really have to get a win now attitude while they have Ingram and Zion on the roster.

They just have to forget about that deal that could potentially destroy their team any further, I get that they are just desperate right now because their team is not getting any positive outcome in almost every post season for the last five years and what they can always do was to start good and dominate league for let's say two weeks but after that, they are back on themselves, inconsistent, having struggles to find the right rhythms and other factors that prevents the team from moving up.
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June 19, 2023, 02:25:15 PM
The Suns hope that this new trio will work, or else they will fail even to have a chance to reach the NBA playoffs next season.

Has there been a new trio formed already? I believe both CP3 and Ayton will be offloaded from the team, so the player that will hopefully join will fit the system of the Phoenix Suns. This is actually quite challenging because they have a new coach, and the success of the system hasn't been tested yet compared to the coach who was previously fired.

If it were Bradley Beal, do you think it would work? What would be the trade, CP3 + Ayton for Bradley Beal? I believe they would be sending a lot of players in exchange for one, similar to what they did when they acquired Durant.

CP3 and Shamet with 2nd round picks. If I read it correctly, it would be a best trade for Wizard if both Paul and Ayton
but it's not, though they still got something good for their veteran star.

Now, it will be more on the Sun's rotations if how the new coach will rotate the ball, as all the 3 superstars do want to hold the ball.

Individual talents, they might have that edge, but overall performance, we will see how they will go to
blend each other, one whole season for this new coach and for the stars to jive up and blend together.
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June 19, 2023, 02:25:08 PM
Bradley Beal went to the Phoenix Suns.
Phoenix Suns and Washington Wizards traded.
Phoenix Suns: Bradley Beal
Washington Wizards: Chris Paul, Landry Shamet and multiple second round picks.

I think it's good for the Phoenix Suns.
Kevin Durant, Devin Booker and Bradley Beal these three will be fun to watch.

This trade pretty much guarantees that CP3 will never get a ring. Being traded to Washington and playing on a rebuild roster has to be disheartening for him, but he will be a veteran for the younger players to look up to.

Phoenix on the other hand just got way better. Beal is a beast. Suns got a shooter to go along with Booker, Durant, and Ayton. Should be an interesting season for the Suns next season.

Chris Paul should just accept that because he have had a lot of years and a lot of chance but still, he haven't manage to get himself a ring or joined his close friend, LeBron James either in Heat, Cavaliers or Lakers. Now, it seems that he's already too late to chase for the gold because he is now getting traded for Bradley Beal who is a lot younger than him and most probably, can offer a lot more help compared to him. Hence why the Suns is taking that move, a move without CP3 anymore.
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June 19, 2023, 01:56:30 PM
The Brooklyn Nets are trying to make a deal with the Pelicans to get Zion Williamson for Ben Simmons and a whole bunch of draft picks.  This seems like a terrible deal for both teams if I'm being honest.  The Pelicans getting Ben Simmons would pretty much destroy their team in my opinion and kick off a rebuild with their picks.  Meanwhile the Nets would give up all their picks assuring that they suck for years while picking up Zion, who has been injury prone and won't be there to carry the team.  Both teams are a disaster, but the Pelicans really have to get a win now attitude while they have Ingram and Zion on the roster.
I guess the Pelicans just trying to get rid of Zion because of how he's like a liability to the team whenever he's injured. That's a lot of things that the Nets would have to trade just for getting rid of Zion. So, this is usually what teams get for one to get rid of and spend the picks that they can get for the draft. While most of these teams are having these trade rumors, there's one team out there who's just chilling around with Gregg while waiting for the number 1 pick, LOL.
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June 19, 2023, 01:17:22 PM
The Brooklyn Nets are trying to make a deal with the Pelicans to get Zion Williamson for Ben Simmons and a whole bunch of draft picks.  This seems like a terrible deal for both teams if I'm being honest.  The Pelicans getting Ben Simmons would pretty much destroy their team in my opinion and kick off a rebuild with their picks.  Meanwhile the Nets would give up all their picks assuring that they suck for years while picking up Zion, who has been injury prone and won't be there to carry the team.  Both teams are a disaster, but the Pelicans really have to get a win now attitude while they have Ingram and Zion on the roster.
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June 19, 2023, 01:09:23 PM
I am pretty sure that there are many teams that are interested in Chris Paul. A buyout is very possible knowing that the current Wizards team is not at the same level as the other top teams.
It's possible that some teams are really interested in Chris Paul, I've read that the Warriors tried to get him before the trade happened with the Suns and Wizards. But for some teams, this could be the question on them if it's still worth it to take him with such amount.

And if I were Christ Paul, I will spend my last years in the NBA on a serious team as much as possible.
I thought that the rumor before is him going to Lakers together with LBJ before they're all out of the league, they'll be taking each other's wing and having a title. But let's see where is this going to be developed since it's still a long time before every team roster's lock-in.
I am seeing posts of people connecting about the CEO of Phoenix Suns and Beal's agent on why the deal has quickly happened.
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June 19, 2023, 11:46:45 AM
Mandy which was not playing for the Chelsea after coming from World Cup due to injury now having his new destination with new promoted club Al-Ahli and few more top ranked players are also coming to Saudi League with him which is good for this league because things looking good here in Saudi League even this is new and need more time for the improvement but as they are investing huge funds most chances we will have few top rank players here which will give good touch and also good entertainment for the fans.

Right now, Chelsea is doing good job as they were in mess-up but currently after having few deals with Saudi Clubs they can cut their loses because this was not possible in European clubs due to their limited budget right now nearly 8 to 10 players are involved for the transfer which is green signal for the new coach and management as well.
You're on the wrong thread. I thought I clicked the wrong one because of your comment and I had to look twice.

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Last season before it started, it was the Boston Celtics deemed as the favorite to crown as champions and it stayed that way until the end of the regular season. I wonder which team would be favored in the next season. At the current rosters, my bet is on Denver Nuggets the defending champions, or the Phoenix Suns. With Beal, the Suns once again have 4 All-Star starters and looked stronger than the previous season.

I am pretty sure that there are many teams that are interested in Chris Paul. A buyout is very possible knowing that the current Wizards team is not at the same level as the other top teams. And if I were Christ Paul, I will spend my last years in the NBA on a serious team as much as possible.
Celtics will still be up there as one of the favorites. How about taking CP3 in exchange of Smart? I think that will be a good deal for both teams since Wizards will likely let go of him anyway. Celtics will get a real point guard and a veteran at that to finally push this team. Chris Paul should have no problem in this since he'll be in a good team while Tatum and Brown will benefit from his mentorship.
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June 19, 2023, 11:35:10 AM
Mandy which was not playing for the Chelsea after coming from World Cup due to injury now having his new destination with new promoted club Al-Ahli and few more top ranked players are also coming to Saudi League with him which is good for this league because things looking good here in Saudi League even this is new and need more time for the improvement but as they are investing huge funds most chances we will have few top rank players here which will give good touch and also good entertainment for the fans.

Right now, Chelsea is doing good job as they were in mess-up but currently after having few deals with Saudi Clubs they can cut their loses because this was not possible in European clubs due to their limited budget right now nearly 8 to 10 players are involved for the transfer which is green signal for the new coach and management as well.
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June 19, 2023, 11:14:52 AM
Bradley Beal went to the Phoenix Suns.
Phoenix Suns and Washington Wizards traded.
Phoenix Suns: Bradley Beal
Washington Wizards: Chris Paul, Landry Shamet and multiple second round picks.

I think it's good for the Phoenix Suns.
Kevin Durant, Devin Booker and Bradley Beal these three will be fun to watch.

They are stacking up offensive players. Phoenix Suns seems to be putting all their money in this season and it's a scary roster now. 3 top offensive players with speed. Expect high-scoring games from the Suns when you place your bets.  Grin
This might also push Chris Paul to be better again, he will prove something to them, just like how he did during his period with the OKC Thunder. He put them back on the map when WB and KD went out. Now, he has the Unicorn and Kuzma on his side, I bet they can create chemistry with a new leader on the floor. Oh, and they have a big man Gafford is CP3 wants an alley-oop play.


Last season before it started, it was the Boston Celtics deemed as the favorite to crown as champions and it stayed that way until the end of the regular season. I wonder which team would be favored in the next season. At the current rosters, my bet is on Denver Nuggets the defending champions, or the Phoenix Suns. With Beal, the Suns once again have 4 All-Star starters and looked stronger than the previous season.

I am pretty sure that there are many teams that are interested in Chris Paul. A buyout is very possible knowing that the current Wizards team is not at the same level as the other top teams. And if I were Christ Paul, I will spend my last years in the NBA on a serious team as much as possible.
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June 19, 2023, 11:04:03 AM
This trade pretty much guarantees that CP3 will never get a ring. Being traded to Washington and playing on a rebuild roster has to be disheartening for him, but he will be a veteran for the younger players to look up to.

He is a good leader to the young players just like how he led the young OKC a few years back to the playoff. That team was also in a rebuilding process but CP3 was able to bring that team to the playoff and performed well. There is something in him that the young players find great inspiration. That is what will be lacking with the Suns next season. I believe the success of the Suns in recent years was because of the leadership of Chris Paul.

Phoenix on the other hand just got way better. Beal is a beast. Suns got a shooter to go along with Booker, Durant, and Ayton. Should be an interesting season for the Suns next season.

This is interesting in the sense that who will be the Alpha of this team? Durant has more success, but he did not bring good leadership to Brooklyn when he went there. Will he be a better leader in Phoenix? Booker was with the team longer and has been the franchise player. Will he relinquish leadership to Durant now that CP3 is out?

The Suns might turn into another Brooklyn Nets, with 3 superstars and with no role and bench players on their roster. So I don't see it as a good trade for the Suns though. Why not just trade CP3 for a good point guard or center as Ayton is also going to leave?

And those three are pure offensive superstars. None of them can really defend. So the role players they should get should be great defenders that will complement these three. We all know that without defense, any team will have a hard time getting a championship. That was already done in Houston and it got them nowhere. Hopefully, the Sun is not making the same mistake.
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June 19, 2023, 10:03:57 AM
While there's truth on what he said that basketball isn't really his main thing because his main thing are his horses. But no doubt that he's really good at basketball and he just took it with his team.

Much love for Jokic and they're still on the prime I guess but let's see if they'll be unbeatable and will be a back to back champ.
That's where he grew up, I also think it's a traditional thing for their family and he doesn't want to let go of it. Treasuring what you grew up with is something very important to some people and basketball is not a job after retirement. When he gets old, he will still need some money and if he can grow that stable of him then I believe he won't have any problem even after retirement. It's a solid business.
That's right, it is what he's grown up and he's not going to give it up but at least, he's got the talent and now has a ring.

He can do whatever he want while he's with the Denver Nuggets. He even said something about the parade and when he's already there, he should have regretted when he's not there.

Well, I am sure that even if he's out of the NBA and he's old already, he's got all what it takes to maintain his stables and horses. It's not just a hobby but also a passion turned into a business.
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June 19, 2023, 09:55:04 AM

In my opinion the Bradley Beal trade makes 0 sense for both teams.

Beal makes around 45mil next season. KD and Booker also have huge contracts. All 3 of them are shooters, but they will take shots away from each other.
All 3 don't really play good defense . All the do is score.

So at least one of them won't make high scores as he is used to do. So how will that player will be worth the money they pay him?

Many people say the Suns will be much stronger now, I don't see it. It's just the KD/Kyrie/JH Nets 2.0 version in my eyes, and we all know how that ended.

I have that same sentiment. All 3 are offensive firepower unless Beal or Booker will adjust.

Booker already adjusted when KD comes in, I think that is enough for the Suns to be a good offensive player. Someone will have to give up if Beal enters the line up next season.


The problem with Suns management is they didn't give a another try on their current rooster. They always create big changes each year that's why they always go on adjustment period. If they just let those guys have good chemistry together Suns with CP3 is already a dangerous team. The departure of Paul in Sums leave a big gap with them since they lose a true point guard in their rooster. But we should give a try on what Beal could contribute up to this team since if they fail to have good chemistry with their new rooster addition we might can say that this is a fail trade to them.
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June 19, 2023, 09:49:07 AM
The Denver Nuggets are deserved champions. By the way, they had already won 4-0 in the semi-finals, there is really no measure on this team. The difference with other years is that this time Nikola Jokic was incredibly good. Without him, things would all look very different. What he shows seems so easy, but on the other hand, it is also very difficult to realize. The simplest basketball is the most difficult, but Jokic owns all facets of the game. It all looks awkward from what he's doing, like he's playing basketball for the first time, but his scanner on the court is incredibly sharp every game. Rarely makes mistakes.
He was maybe the 41th pick of his draft but he is the star of this team and multiple mvp. Of course without him they would be totally different and possibly no where near this success. We can say this for almost every team. It was impossible for three-peat Lakers without Shaq, it was impossible without Duncan on their multiple titles, impossible without Hakeem for 95 Rockets, and so on.. Jokic might even be considered a franchise player at this point, and I think rightfully so, and Nuggets would be nowhere without him naturally. I have my doubts about their future though. Can they be a multiple championship team? They have a hard future ahead of them.
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June 19, 2023, 09:13:46 AM
The Suns don't need to improve on offense as Durant and Booker can clearly score all night. Their problem lies in their defense, but I still consider them a good team despite their loss in the playoffs. Just imagine, the Suns won two games against the Nuggets, while the Lakers were swept, and the Heat only managed to win one game. If the Suns had a strong defense during that time, I believe they would have had a better chance to win the series. So, they need to address that issue in the next season by improving their lineup, without necessarily adding another offensive player with a huge contract.

Many think about that beal's addition is really good with Suns. But they don't realize that they have now three ball dominant players ao maybe with this they will get a problem.

They should look at the current rooster of Denver since they are the famous team right now and it proves that defense is really a big factor why this team won a championship. If they just get a defensive guy who also can contribute in scoring maybe they can fill the gap what their team is lacking.

I will say that every team needs to have a balanced squad. If there are too many players who can defend in the lineup, they are not going to be able to score enough. And just like that, if there are too many attacking players in the team it is actually hard to defend. I will say that they should not look at some other team to decide what they are going to do. They should think about what is going to work for them.

I will actually agree with you and say that them having the same type of players on the team might cause some problems. But that can also indicate that the rotation is going to be really good.
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June 19, 2023, 07:52:56 AM

In my opinion the Bradley Beal trade makes 0 sense for both teams.

Beal makes around 45mil next season. KD and Booker also have huge contracts. All 3 of them are shooters, but they will take shots away from each other.
All 3 don't really play good defense . All the do is score.

So at least one of them won't make high scores as he is used to do. So how will that player will be worth the money they pay him?

Many people say the Suns will be much stronger now, I don't see it. It's just the KD/Kyrie/JH Nets 2.0 version in my eyes, and we all know how that ended.

I have that same sentiment. All 3 are offensive firepower unless Beal or Booker will adjust.

Booker already adjusted when KD comes in, I think that is enough for the Suns to be a good offensive player. Someone will have to give up if Beal enters the line up next season.

More on scoring but less in playing tough defense, I can see this setup the way GSW did as offense will be their defense.
I mean more on moving the ball with passing and finding an open man and not with "let me do it one on one" if the new
head coach will manage that and make it successful with these 3 superstars, then maybe they've got a good chance next
season.

I'm also thinking the same, it could be either Nets 2.0, a disaster, or the 3 will click like Steph, Klay and to some extend Jordan Poole. But still though, there should be balance and I think it will still be Booker's team. They also need to beef up their bench, and obviously the man in the middle of Ayton will leave the team to chase better contract.
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June 19, 2023, 07:31:53 AM
The Suns might turn into another Brooklyn Nets, with 3 superstars and with no role and bench players on their roster. So I don't see it as a good trade for the Suns though. Why not just trade CP3 for a good point guard or center as Ayton is also going to leave?
You are definitely right. I wish all management learned their lesson from the Brooklyn Nets' experiment. It's not about putting a lot of stars in one roster, it's about leadership and chemistry. I mean, look at the Denver Nuggets, the two known stars in their roster are Jokic and Murray only but everyone is listening in the last final minutes of the game against the Miami Heat when Jokic was shouting on the bench looking for more energy and pushing them at their limits. Leadership! Will KD do that to Booker? I doubt that and vice versa. The same goes for Bradley Beal.
We will see, I am just speculating here for now but I really don't like teams piling up all the stars just to say they are a strong team and I bet all basketball analysts will bite it and hype them up. Lucky for those who will in Phoenix, you get to see a lot of stars.

Speaking of retirement, Lou Williams not announced that he will be retiring for good after 17 seasons.

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Lou Williams announced his retirement from the NBA on Sunday, ending a career after winning the league’s Sixth Man award three times and scoring more points off the bench than anyone in history.

https://www.nba.com/news/lou-williams-announces-nba-retirement
When I see Lou Williams, I also see Jamal Crawford. Two NBA players are tied for the number of 6th Man of the Year award received. 3 of them.
One of the top bench players in the league and he will not be forgotten. Him and Jamal Crawford will always be the players that will come out my brain whenever they award that title to someone else.
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June 19, 2023, 05:58:46 AM
The Suns hope that this new trio will work, or else they will fail even to have a chance to reach the NBA playoffs next season.

Has there been a new trio formed already? I believe both CP3 and Ayton will be offloaded from the team, so the player that will hopefully join will fit the system of the Phoenix Suns. This is actually quite challenging because they have a new coach, and the success of the system hasn't been tested yet compared to the coach who was previously fired.

If it were Bradley Beal, do you think it would work? What would be the trade, CP3 + Ayton for Bradley Beal? I believe they would be sending a lot of players in exchange for one, similar to what they did when they acquired Durant.
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June 19, 2023, 05:56:11 AM

In my opinion the Bradley Beal trade makes 0 sense for both teams.

Beal makes around 45mil next season. KD and Booker also have huge contracts. All 3 of them are shooters, but they will take shots away from each other.
All 3 don't really play good defense . All the do is score.

So at least one of them won't make high scores as he is used to do. So how will that player will be worth the money they pay him?

Many people say the Suns will be much stronger now, I don't see it. It's just the KD/Kyrie/JH Nets 2.0 version in my eyes, and we all know how that ended.

I have that same sentiment. All 3 are offensive firepower unless Beal or Booker will adjust.

More on scoring but less in playing tough defense, I can see this setup the way GSW did as offense will be their defense.
I mean more on moving the ball with passing and finding an open man and not with "let me do it one on one" if the new
head coach will manage that and make it successful with these 3 superstars, then maybe they've got a good chance next
season.

The Suns don't need to improve on offense as Durant and Booker can clearly score all night. Their problem lies in their defense, but I still consider them a good team despite their loss in the playoffs. Just imagine, the Suns won two games against the Nuggets, while the Lakers were swept, and the Heat only managed to win one game. If the Suns had a strong defense during that time, I believe they would have had a better chance to win the series. So, they need to address that issue in the next season by improving their lineup, without necessarily adding another offensive player with a huge contract.

Many think about that beal's addition is really good with Suns. But they don't realize that they have now three ball dominant players ao maybe with this they will get a problem.

They should look at the current rooster of Denver since they are the famous team right now and it proves that defense is really a big factor why this team won a championship. If they just get a defensive guy who also can contribute in scoring maybe they can fill the gap what their team is lacking.
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