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Quote from: Jegileman on September 10, 2024, 01:57:05 AM

If such people have been caught several times stealing and lying that doesn’t mean they are all the same. For him to have given his private keys to an attorney does not make it vulnerable to be stolen if the attorney is a trusted person he can rely on. Who you know and trust may differ from the person the other person knows, it’s just the way life is and it may not even be a family member because sometimes most of them are wicked and will do for you what you never expected of them.

The whole reason Bitcoin exists is because we can't trust people.

Some people need to put their hand in fire to realize the danger.

If we could trust other people, cryptocurrencies wouldn't be needed.

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Quote from: tread93 on September 09, 2024, 12:43:53 PM

Make sure you have a plan in place so your loved ones are set up for success and never be in this type of situation.

May your Dad be well again tread93. Having a plan for your assets is very important especially for the digital assets that has lots of security in order to have access to them. Those that have lost their private keys in the early days of bitcoin still do not have access to their portfolios, that’s to say how this keys are important to pass that wealth you’ve been saving to your generation when they want to have access to the wealth you’ve kept for them. It is good to have privacy but I believe there’s always someone that you can trust and will have access to your portfolio later when the need arises.

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Quote from: Stablexcoin on September 09, 2024, 04:34:37 PM

... I have written my private keys in a well-secured letter and have given it to an attorney well saved in the bank.

You better pray this "attorney" guy is not addicted to gambling or drugs Cheesy

and even without that, he is just a man like everyone else.

I would never trust any attorney nor bank as they both have been caught numerous times stealing and lying.

If such people have been caught several times stealing and lying that doesn’t mean they are all the same. For him to have given his private keys to an attorney does not make it vulnerable to be stolen if the attorney is a trusted person he can rely on. Who you know and trust may differ from the person the other person knows, it’s just the way life is and it may not even be a family member because sometimes most of them are wicked and will do for you what you never expected of them.

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Quote from: Zlantann on September 10, 2024, 01:21:13 AM

Finding true love these days is almost impossible. Women pretend to love when your have money to pay their over increasing bills. But some men have been fortunate to finds very good women who love them for who they are and not for what they have. I am lucky to have a partner who I am sure will always stand by me regardless of the condition. If you have such a person trust become easy.

True love is what got all this men in trouble.

I have what you call true love but I don't mix love with money.

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Quote from: tread93 on September 09, 2024, 12:43:53 PM

Make sure you have a plan in place so your loved ones are set up for success and never be in this type of situation.

Sorry for the health issues of your dad. Life is unpredictable so we always need to prepare for the worst. Greed and materialism have made the world a very risky place and trust a very scarce commodity. However, if you don't want to waste your assets in time of sickness or death, you just have to trust someone. It could be a family member, friend or an attorney.

Quote from: Apocollapse on September 10, 2024, 12:42:04 AM

Correct.

Why women fall in love? because men have money.
Why men fall in love? because women are physically attractive.
How to accumulate money? by working hard.
How to be physically attractive? by having money.

Many women nowadays are using men as their stepping stone.

If people want to inherit their assets, they should have prepared a last will and testament to give it to their child.

Finding true love these days is almost impossible. Women pretend to love you when you have the money to pay their ever-increasing bills. But some men have been fortunate to find very good women who love them for who they are and not for what they have. I am lucky to have a partner who I am sure will always stand by me regardless of my condition. If you have such a person, trust becomes easy.

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If someone had opened trading positions with volatile coins on a crypto exchange, maybe the best option is a stop-loss order(if the crypto exchange really offers such feature, most crypto exchanges do). Unfortunately, I don't think that your dad has used this feature.
This is the best way to preserve your capital, when the market gets hit by severe price drops. The stop-loss order will be launched automatically, when the prices drop below a certain level and the volatile crypto will be automatically sold for stablecoins.
The topic about crypto inheritance has been discussed multiple times in the forum, so I don't want to start it all over again.
I wish your dad a fast recovery.

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My prayers are with your dad and I hope he gets a speedy recovery. It's important to secure your assets Incase of unforseen events so you don't get caught stranded. The most important thing about situations like this is having trust because without it, there's the possibility of engaging in financial activities that no one knows about.

I'm seeing a particular user; I think @Megold666 being so adamant to trust anyone with his funds and he may have his reasons but if that's the best path then I don't see the need to make investments if you don't have anyone that you can trust because should something happen to you and you can't access those funds by yourself except you involve someone else, how then will you manage since you've decided to keep it all to yourself?

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Quote from: tread93 on September 09, 2024, 12:43:53 PM

Make sure you have a plan in place so your loved ones are set up for success and never be in this type of situation.

The plan was not just made like a part of the investment strategy but for us to seriously follow. A plan that is also quite achieving. Like what happens in your family, it needs the total participation of the members of the family to make fair decisions. Having a good relationship and proper communication could help a lot in the success of the plan, which I hope would happen to you, OP.

What I was trying to convey is that investing in secrets can be extremely challenging. Many people died with some investments, but nobody from their family got the benefit of it because of no access. It is time to realize that we have to change this kind of strategy and make everyone in our family aware.

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Sorry to hear that, yeah we need to prepare for the worst.

We live in the present, not in the past, and no guarantee to live in the future. So enjoy what you're doing now.

Quote from: MeGold666 on September 09, 2024, 05:37:09 PM

No, I don't trust even myself. Wife ? you're talking about the most abused contract in history that destroyed so many men ?

Correct.

Why women fall in love? because men have money.
Why men fall in love? because women are physically attractive.
How to accumulate money? by working hard.
How to be physically attractive? by having money.

Many women nowadays are using men as their stepping stone.

If people want to inherit their assets, they should have prepared a last will and testament to give it to their child.

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I'm so sorry to hear what's going on with your dad, but great that you're stepping in and helping your family. Currently, the crypto market has gotten very volatile, especially with big assets like Bitcoin last August, things really seemed to show high volatility. Experts suggest that investor caution is growing due to economic uncertainties like potential interest rate changes, which makes the crypto market unpredictable. Considering this, moving his investments into more stable options like stablecoins could help reduce risk.

It is important that there is a clear plan as to how the crypto and other assets are to be managed, especially when events catch one by surprise. In doing so, having a strategy for asset management may involve the creation of provisions for accessing such assets by close family members with you so as to avoid confusion and ensure long-term financial stability.

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My prayers for your dad!

Like him and like majority of us I guess, my crypto assets aren't organized as if today is my last. So in the event that I can't anymore wake up tomorrow, they will have to do some searching and breaking passwords and PINs.

My family and loved ones don't know how many BTC I have, how many wallets I maintain, where backups and devices are kept, and so on. But I guess it's enough for them to know that I'm into Bitcoin and crypto that they would take the searching and the puzzle-solving seriously. If they're steadfast, they will get every Satoshi I own. If not, then let those be among the lost coins that "only make everyone else's coins worth slightly more."

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I believe you can't joke with your family situations and I join faith with you and seek quick recovery for your dad.

BTW, it has always been an every day preaching that in whatever we do let's try as much as possible to let our love once know at least little to every assets we own in any way. And it's also not a new thing that we all should plan for our future and make plans for the unforeseen circumstances or the rainy days which we can predict, having an emergency funds, investments etc that can back us up at any time is a major advise that we should take for granted.

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Quote from: Marykeller on September 09, 2024, 05:37:18 PM

I know how hard it is trust to someone when it relates to money, but you should at least have a special someone you can highly trust with your crypto assets when the otherwise happens.

I don't think, it's the best idea to have your crypto assets lost forever than your family member or close friend to have them. We are not praying for something bad to happen, but we should at least get ourselves prepared for the worst before it takes us by surprise that we don't have anything in store for families to take off.

However, since you are having difficulties trusting anyone, why don't you try to find someone close to giving them your seed phrase; you will purposely remove the last word of your seed phrase only to give it to someone else. Like, Your mom will have the first to eleven words of your seed phrase, and a friend will have the 12th word. It will be revealed when the unexpected happens to you. That way you have saved yourself from the abuse of trust or being screwed up in the future.

No.

People are NOT to be trusted, ever.

And they will be fine without my money, no one deserves free money.

Enough said.

Over & Out.

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Quote from: MeGold666 on September 09, 2024, 02:04:11 PM

Sorry to hear that, I wish your dad a speedy recovery.

I don't trust even my own mother when it comes to money and I'm not leaving anything to anyone, if I die, crypto I hold will be gone forever. To each his own.
I'm a selfish bastard and I'm happy with that Wink

The most important thing I've learned in life is to trust no one, especially your family as they are the first to abuse the trust.
Seen too many people getting screwed by own family, not going to be one of them.

Ask yourself, what is more probable - dying today/tomorrow or getting screwed by some family member you thought you can trust with big money.
If you already have some deadly sickness then you may think to share your wealth, other than that I think you are just increasing the chances of getting robbed.

I know how hard it is trust to someone in this present time when it relates to money, but you should at least have a special friend or relation you can highly trust with your crypto assets when the otherwise happens. Not everyone is wicked, heartless, or greedy regarding money.

That being said, I don't think, it's the best idea to have your crypto assets lost forever than your family member or close friend to have them. We are not praying for something bad to happen, but we should at least get ourselves prepared for the worst before it takes us by surprise that we don't have anything in store for families to take care of.

However, since you are having difficulties trusting anyone, why don't you try to find someone close to giving them your seed phrase; you will purposely remove the last word of your seed phrase only to give it to someone else. Like, Your mom will have the first to eleven words of your seed phrase, and a friend will have the 12th word. It will be revealed when the unexpected happens to you. That way you have saved yourself from the abuse of trust or being screwed up in the future.

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Quote from: Nwada001 on September 09, 2024, 05:28:50 PM

I disagree with you on this. I know it's risky for one to trust the next person when it comes to what has to do with money, but then again, if you don't trust anybody, do you even trust yourself? And if you are a married person, you, as the husband or wife of you, don't trust your spouse enough.

Why get married to them in the first place? To some extent, we need to take the risk of trusting one or two of our family members. Besides, all those wealths that you are indirectly making are supposed to be for the family, so what's the point of totally blacking them out?

No, I don't trust even myself. Wife ? you're talking about the most abused contract in history that destroyed so many men ?

Give me a break Cheesy

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Quote from: tread93 on September 09, 2024, 12:43:53 PM

I have spoken on this subject in the past but it feels more real than it ever has since my dad just had a major brain stroke on Friday. I can see my mom is very unsure of how to manage the financials and it’s a very tricky spot to navigate with my dad only being able to spit out a few words at a time, I am hopeful for a full recovery. My dad is getting better by the day which is good but it’s a long road to recovery. My family can tell that he is worried about his assets and he has made attempts to tell my mother and brothers what to do, we believe he was trading all his coins into a volatile crypto right now and want to help him stabilize that. I have my flight booked and I’ll be there in a few days to help with everything but now more so than ever if you haven’t taken the time to fill in your significant other or trusted family member what to do in the event of something like this happening then you need to make sure that is in place not only for all your crypto assets but physical and anything you can pass on. We are not promised tomorrow, I am thankful my dad is alright. I believe he will recover. If you can please send prayers for him and my family 🙏

Firstly I wish your dad speedy recovery from this as it is a very frustrating situation. M

Now to the question of having your asset actually announced, i think we have emphasized on this topic enough most especially from the beginning of how or where you store your private key or seed phrase. There are people who disagree that this things need to be kept secret as not everyone can be trusted even family members. But for me I think we need to at least have that one person we know will be able to keep the secrets and uphold them, this is much safer than any backstabbing That will even Happen. It will be more painful to have your asset lost due to only you having access to it than it been misuse.

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Quote from: MeGold666 on September 09, 2024, 02:04:11 PM

I disagree with you on this. I know it's risky for one to trust the next person when it comes to what has to do with money, but then again, if you don't trust anybody, do you even trust yourself? And if you are a married person, you, as the husband or wife of you, don't trust your spouse enough.

Why get married to them in the first place? To some extent, we need to take the risk of trusting one or two of our family members. Besides, all those wealths that you are indirectly making are supposed to be for the family, so what's the point of totally blacking them out?

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Hopefully tread93 that your Dad got medical attention quickly after the
stroke happened, time is key! the sooner a stroke victim gets attention the better.

Your advice is good, its good to have a plan in place should something like the
above or worse happen, I have such a plan in place but unfortunately not everyone
can afford trust to family or friends.

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Quote from: Stablexcoin on September 09, 2024, 04:34:37 PM

... I have written my private keys in a well-secured letter and have given it to an attorney well saved in the bank.

You better pray this "attorney" guy is not addicted to gambling or drugs Cheesy

and even without that, he is just a man like everyone else.

I would never trust any attorney nor bank as they both have been caught numerous times stealing and lying.

Quote from: Stablexcoin on September 09, 2024, 04:34:37 PM

Don't worry my attorney does not know what is in the file as it is safe in the bank vault.

Bank safe ? LOL someone is still living in a dream land.
Don't you read the news ? how bank vaults are taken over by FBI and you can't do nothing about it ?
Plenty other cases were vaults proven to be far from safe, you should do better research.

You have basically traded your freedom of being your own bank for artificial safety.

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Your Dad will recover and be fine. But I have learned something from your story and I won't let something like that repeat without taking corrections today. Many things happen in life we do not expect and that is why we need an attorney. Right now I don't have anyone I can trust but I have written my private keys in a well-secured letter and have given it to an attorney well saved in the bank. If anything happens to me today that file will be given to my younger brother because I have no nuclear family. However, indirectly I have been preparing and teaching my younger brother how to manage funds and invest in Bitcoin. Now he is a good investor and knows how to manage his investment i am well satisfied with the fact that I have someone who even if am ill can manage my holdings.

Don't worry my attorney does not know what is in the file as it is safe in the bank vault.

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Its not profession enough for us to have all our crypto asset in one place, we must draw a plan for how to hold them, some portion should be made available for other contingencies purpose while the other aspect of our investment should be a long time investment whereby we may not have to touch except for an inevitable reason that has to do with life, we may not be able to predict on what life may offers at any point in time, but we should always be prepared for such.

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