Malboroza. . . When are you removing this negative rating on my profile?

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I connected Kolder, grim07 and Omegasun back in 2016:

Quote from: Timelord2067 on November 05, 2016, 09:35:17 PM

Accounts connected: Omegasun -2: -1 / +0, Kolder, grim07 -2: -1 / +0,

Proof:

Omegasun uses the twitter @innieh07 in this locked thread:

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grim07 then uses the same twitter @innieh07 here:

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Kolder is then using the twitter @innieh07:

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Omegasun answered a question in Kolder's lending service as thought they were two separate users:

The OP Dank14's other alt Goms started a near identical thread to this in August 2018

Quote from: Goms on September 07, 2019, 08:52:50 PM

Hello,
I Goms will like to have the negative trust on my account removed as I've not posted for a long, long time, I believe this issue should be sorted out by now.

I actually didn't cheat anyone, only participated in signature campaigns
You can check my posts, I've never traded on this website or transacted in anyway with anyone on this forum.
I only participated in signature campaigns.
I've not taken part in any campaign in more than a year so kindly revisit this issue.
Thanks.

Quote from: JollyGood on June 27, 2023, 04:15:01 AM

The question arises, why would the OP start this thread and draw attention on to himself? If marlboroza had given the negative tag and he is no longer using the forum it means there is nothing he can do about it. As a result of him bringing attention to himself he has received two more negative tags.

I have added another four names to that list and then tagged the OP with negative trust. As soon as I have ample time I will tag all of the accounts:

Dank14, grim007, grim07, Omegasun, Mintcondition, Casabrandy, IKZIR31, pratamaPR31, Gastotade, Armstand, Lumada, Blamsud, vasrasus, Wandika, Palodar, Kolder, PhilPrime, Bitcoin Market, xWill, Dahhi, Gaugh, Goms, Daisy14, BlockEye, Gahs, Dinki, Goms, Daisy14

Quote from: marlboroza on June 07, 2018, 05:35:21 PM

Accounts connected: :

grim007 -16: -4 / +0
Mintcondition -13: -4 / +3
Casabrandy -4: -2 / +0
IKZIR31 -4: -2 / +0
pratamaPR -4: -2 / +0
Gastotade 0: -0 / +0
Armstand 0: -0/ +0
Lumada 0: -0/ +0
Blamsud 0: -0/ +0
vasrasus 0: -0/ +0
Wandika 0: -0/ +0
Palodar -2: -1 / +0
Kolder 1: -1 / +2
PhilPrime -8: -3 / +0
BlockEye, 41: -0 / +7

If you look at just about any of the alts negative trust feedback those UID's have identical or near identical negatives from numerous users. Only marlboroza has been targeted by the the OP this time around.

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grim007
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"Yesterday" the OP will have targeted me in their new thread, same theme. "Tomorrow", the OP will target you. Rinse and repeat.

@DaveF I *think* there's a handful of UID's missing from your ~ list in @JollyGood 's recent thread.

Not sure why I removed my distrust of these users, https://loyce.club/trust/2019-02-25_Mon_21.39h/662310.html

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Trust list for: Kolder (0 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2019-02-25_Mon_21.39h)
Back to index

Kolder Trusts:
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Kolder Distrusts:
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Kolder is Trusted by:
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~Kolder is Distrusted by:

Removed:
~~1. Timelord2067 (151 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)~~[/s]

Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

But back on they go.

@LoyceV - are you still of the opinion it is okay for alts to DT distrust others (i.e. the same user being distrust by two or more alts)?

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This has been a trend recently. If memory serves correct there were around 3-4 cases within the last say 6 weeks where the OP created a thread for a particular reason complaining about a neutral/negative tag but in the end they dug themselves in to a hole and did not stop digging.

Some account farmers make the mistake of being over-confident therefore they have threads questioning their feedbacks and within a short time that becomes their error as their associated accounts begin to be listed. They bring attention to themselves without realising the impact it will have on their farming activities.

Quote from: DaveF on June 28, 2023, 05:46:29 AM

And in the end the funny part is that the only thing this thread has done so for for the OP and the associated accounts is get them more negative feedback and removal from trust lists.

As the saying goes, when you are in a hole stop digging.

So a single negative from someone who has not been active for years that a lot of people may have ignored is now a major thing since there are so many more people looking and posting about it.

-Dave

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And in the end the funny part is that the only thing this thread has done so for for the OP and the associated accounts is get them more negative feedback and removal from trust lists.

As the saying goes, when you are in a hole stop digging.

So a single negative from someone who has not been active for years that a lot of people may have ignored is now a major thing since there are so many more people looking and posting about it.

-Dave

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Positioning yourself in the right place will be done by anyone while in the suspect's position.

Why don't you just solve your problem when Marlboroza sticks your ass in red ink.
Why don't you defend yourself with all the accusations thrown at you.
Why are you only now asking for justice.

I found references with strong evidence in your Trust Summary that made DT members do their job well. I suspect this account has changed ownership, after a long period of inactivity you immediately reset the password.

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The question arises, why would the OP start this thread and draw attention on to himself? If marlboroza had given the negative tag and he is no longer using the forum it means there is nothing he can do about it. As a result of him bringing attention to himself he has received two more negative tags.

I have added another four names to that list and then tagged the OP with negative trust. As soon as I have ample time I will tag all of the accounts:

Dank14, grim007, grim07, Omegasun, Mintcondition, Casabrandy, IKZIR31, pratamaPR31, Gastotade, Armstand, Lumada, Blamsud, vasrasus, Wandika, Palodar, Kolder, PhilPrime, Bitcoin Market, xWill, Dahhi, Gaugh, Goms, Daisy14, BlockEye, Gahs, Dinki, Goms, Daisy14

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Quote from: Dank14 on June 09, 2023, 11:36:59 PM

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Why don't you check my posts from my other accounts to see if you can find anything criminal?

YOSHIE already explained it to you a few years ago. You will find everything you want to know in the related threads.

Quote from: YOSHIE on September 08, 2019, 04:36:29 AM

Reference Account is involved in all kind of shady activities(trading accounts, trading hacked accounts, abusing bounties with alt accounts, leaving positive trust between alt accounts, farming trust)
Accounts connected: grim007, grim07, Omegasun, Mintcondition, Casabrandy, IKZIR31, pratamaPR31, Gastotade, Armstand, Lumada, Blamsud, vasrasus, Wandika, Palodar, Kolder, PhilPrime, Bitcoin Market, xWill, Dahhi, Gaugh, Goms, Daisy14, BlockEye. Read whole thread in reference.

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Quote from: Dank14 on June 10, 2023, 03:32:31 AM

Everybody knows that PayPal doesn't work in all countries. . .
So there is nothing mysterious about converting PayPal funds to crypto.

Do note that I complained bitterly about the malboroza issue in 2016. . . but that thread is no longer in the archives.
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Perhaps you mean 2019? I couldn't see any possible way you can complain bitterly in 2016 about the issue raised by Malboroza in 2019? And could it be, perhaps, you're referring to your other connected account, Goms and you just forgot which account you use to raise the complain due to the pile of accounts you own, and assuming you made the complain by this account? Goms did made a complaint, but I can't find any complaint made by this account, although everything should be archived by 2019, either by Loyce's archiver or Ninjastic's

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Quote from: Dank14 on June 10, 2023, 03:32:31 AM

Most people know that PayPal doesn't work in all countries. . .
So there is nothing mysterious about converting PayPal funds to crypto.

Easy solution: don't violate Paypal's terms.

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Everybody knows that PayPal doesn't work in all countries. . .
So there is nothing mysterious about converting PayPal funds to crypto.

Do note that I complained bitterly about the malboroza issue in 2016. . . but that thread is no longer in the archives.

Quote from: LoyceV on June 10, 2023, 03:21:38 AM

I checked a few of the accounts that are alts according to marlboroza. . .

I'm glad you checked.
And even YOU could not point to something criminal in what you saw.

Quote from: LoyceV on June 10, 2023, 03:21:38 AM

Easy solution: don't violate Paypal's terms.

PayPal did not say that I violated their terms.

Since YOU have become a solution provider:
Why don't YOU contact PayPal and instruct them to start working in ALL countries?

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Quote from: Dank14 on June 08, 2023, 01:38:09 PM

I had more than one account
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I stopped posting on this forum.

I checked a few of the accounts that are alts according to marlboroza, and they all stopped posting after he tagged them. I also checked some of the posts made by those accounts, and they won't be missed. You were basically pissing all over the forum to earn money. I wouldn't even be surprised if you have more accounts and continued spamming with them all those years.

Quote from: marlboroza on June 28, 2018, 04:22:28 AM

I did protest about it back in 2016, it's a pity my thread may no longer be in the archives.

Marlboroza's feedback is from 2019. I'm guessing your thread didn't disappear on it's own, so look it up.

Quote from: Dank14 on June 09, 2023, 10:45:03 AM

Fast forward to 2023, I have some PayPal funds I wish to convert to crypto.

Quote from: Dank14 on June 09, 2023, 12:59:19 PM

I don't know which escrow to use, can you direct me?

It's not possible to escrow Paypal funds securely. If you send funds from a stolen Paypal account, the escrow loses their money and that can be months later. Send your Paypal funds to your bank, and buy Bitcoin on an exchange. But I'm guessing you have a reason you don't want those funds tied to your real name.

I trust marlboroza's judgement, and I won't exclude him, not even if he asks for it.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on June 09, 2023, 03:38:01 PM

Oh I am sure he is going to cry a long time because you gave him negative feedback Roll Eyes

With this kind of behavior and attracting attention you can only get a few more red colored postcards on your profile for acting like this and abusing trust system.
But hey, do whatever you want, it's your profile.

I want to point out to you that it's not about Malboroza crying.

No, not at all.

It's about showing Malboroza a little bit of gratitude for
"keeping the forum safe"

Since he took the time to check around. . . a little bit of gratitude should help him check better.

So let the checking continue. . . and let the gratitude flow in.

Isn't that sweet?

Quote from: logfiles on June 09, 2023, 06:51:18 PM

But there is a whole thread or two about the links between your different accounts, including Dank14. Why would you say that he's lying because the negative tags he left on the account profiles are accurate?

You don't give people red tags just because they have multiple accounts.

Multiple accounts isn't against forum rules.

Check yourself to see.

Quote from: FatFork on June 09, 2023, 03:51:41 PM

So, you're suggesting that we should solely focus on the posts from the account you're currently using and completely disregard any posts from other linked accounts? I'm curious, what's the reasoning behind this request? Why should we ignore the actions from those other accounts?

Why don't you check my posts from my other accounts to see if you can find anything criminal?

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But there is a whole thread or two about the links between your different accounts, including Dank14. Why would you say that he's lying because the negative tags he left on the account profiles are accurate?

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Quote from: FatFork on June 09, 2023, 11:58:10 AM

So, what exactly did marlboroza lie about regarding the feedback they left on your profile? From what I can see, the feedback appears to be factually accurate and supported by evidence.

Malboroza's lies include:

1) I sell accounts
2) I give myself trust ratings
3) I can't be trusted
4) I scam people

No, that's not what the trust feedback on your profile states. Allow me to quote it for you:

Quote from: marlboroza on June 28, 2018, 04:22:28 AM

Malboroza came up with that ALL by himself. There's no single one of my previous chats that talks about selling accounts or cheating someone.

You can go through my previous posts to see if you will see anything that involves selling accounts or cheating someone.

So, you're suggesting that we should solely focus on the posts from the account you're currently using and completely disregard any posts from other linked accounts? I'm curious, what's the reasoning behind this request? Why should we ignore the actions from those other accounts?

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Quote from: Dank14 on June 08, 2023, 02:36:28 PM

In that case, I will give Marlboroza a negative trust as well. . . One good turn deserves another.

Oh I am sure he is going to cry a long time because you gave him negative feedback Roll Eyes

With this kind of behavior and attracting attention you can only get a few more red colored postcards on your profile for acting like this and abusing trust system.
But hey, do whatever you want, it's your profile.

Quote from: logfiles on June 08, 2023, 06:45:25 PM

This thread contains hard evidence about the accounts' connection to a big account, farm - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/i-didnt-cheat-anyone-5182721 especially Veleor's investigation.
What do you say about this?

This looks to me like a bunch of farmed account, and OP password changed multiple times since 2019, probably account changed hands.

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Quote from: holydarkness on June 09, 2023, 12:36:42 PM

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The best OP can hope is for the DT members to distrust Malboroza. Enough distrust will kick him from DT and thus will make the -1 score "invisible" from OP's default profile. But given the multiple posts made by several users here on his findings and the reason behind the feedback, I can't see why we should start ~malboroza.
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Well, I'm not a DT1 but I'm one of those who added marlboroza to my trust list years ago. And I see no reason to remove him. But I see that Dank14 misuses trust system at the moment so I distrusted him. He is saying that marlboroza was wrong but gives no arguments, only agressively blames the one who is not here and who has no option of response.

Insistence in this case is not something what will work. Arguments showing multiple mistakes is what should be provided. And I suppose there are no arguments.

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Okay, thanks for the heads-up.

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Quote from: Dank14 on June 09, 2023, 12:59:19 PM

Quote from: holydarkness on June 09, 2023, 12:36:42 PM

OP, if what you said is true that you're only looking to have a deal with someone and you think that malboroza's tag will hinder you from a successful deal, use hugeblack's and dimonstration's advise to use an escrow. It'll "bypass" the cautiousness raised by your counterparty due to the negative tag you have.

I don't know which escrow to use, can you direct me?
It's been a long while since I've been here.

I'll send you a DM.

No need to send me a DM. There are a lot of escrow service on the forum. This thread is recently updated with highest trust rating escrow provider, this one is rather old, but not necessarily obsolete, and can still be used as a reference.

If I'm not mistaken --and that's me being polite when I tried to say, "I know he does, but I am not sure he'll accept business with you or not"-- GazetaBitcoin also begin to provide escrow service and currently doing it for free.

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Quote from: holydarkness on June 09, 2023, 12:36:42 PM

OP, if what you said is true that you're only looking to have a deal with someone and you think that malboroza's tag will hinder you from a successful deal, use hugeblack's and dimonstration's advise to use an escrow. It'll "bypass" the cautiousness raised by your counterparty due to the negative tag you have.

I don't know which escrow to use, can you direct me?
It's been a long while since I've been here.

Quote from: FatFork on June 09, 2023, 11:58:10 AM

So, what exactly did marlboroza lie about regarding the feedback they left on your profile? From what I can see, the feedback appears to be factually accurate and supported by evidence.

Malboroza's lies include:

1) I sell accounts
2) I give myself trust ratings
3) I can't be trusted
4) I scam people

Malboroza came up with that ALL by himself. There's no single one of my previous chats that talks about selling accounts or cheating someone.

You can go through my previous posts to see if you will see anything that involves selling accounts or cheating someone.

Lying is not a good habit even if you are legendary. . .

That's why so many people called Malboroza a CHEAT!

Check my profile, apart from Malboroza, who else called me a CHEAT?!

Who else?

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on June 09, 2023, 12:04:41 AM

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on June 08, 2023, 07:36:47 PM

While that's a valid question, even if OP successfully defends himself, there's still the issue of marlboroza not being active. I guess someone on DT could leave a counter-feedback, but OP really ought to have spoken up when the accusation was made.

I don't think counter-feedback is still valid with the current trust system, other user can leave a neutral feedback, but still it doesn't clean off the negative feedback.
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Yes, it doesn't. IIRC the old trust system works like the sum of trusts given to an account, e.g.: someone with three positive and two negative "trust" will shows +1/0/-0, while someone with three positive and three negative will show +0/0/-0. The system today works by showing the sum of each feedback, e.g.: someone with five positive and two negative will shows +5/0/-2 instead of +3/0/-0. So the counter-feedback which on the "old world" can be and were used by DT members to negate an arguably invalid negative trust, it doesn't work on this new system.

The best OP can hope is for the DT members to distrust Malboroza. Enough distrust will kick him from DT and thus will make the -1 score "invisible" from OP's default profile. But given the multiple posts made by several users here on his findings and the reason behind the feedback, I can't see why we should start ~malboroza.

OP, if what you said is true that you're only looking to have a deal with someone and you think that malboroza's tag will hinder you from a successful deal, use hugeblack's and dimonstration's advise to use an escrow. It'll "bypass" the cautiousness raised by your counterparty due to the negative tag you have.

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Quote from: Dank14 on June 09, 2023, 11:24:01 AM

Please check malboroza's trust profile to see the long list of people who refer to him as a CHEAT!

Many of us here place a great deal of trust in malboroza's feedback, which is why he still remains on the DT member list, despite his inactivity on the forum. The feedback you mentioned on his profile, including the one you left in retaliation, falls under the category of Untrusted feedback and does not contribute to his overall trust score.

So, what exactly did marlboroza lie about regarding the feedback they left on your profile? From what I can see, the feedback appears to be factually accurate and supported by evidence.

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