Topic: Man stabs people at gay pride march in Jerusalem for second time (Read 2189 times)

Apparently I need to make explicit the distinction between actually-existing capitalism, which you feel the need to call "corporatism", and the utopian fantasy capitalism which exists only in your imagination.

What you've described here is most certainly not capitalism (which I've been trying to explain to you for a long time now). It looks like corporatism (fascism) to me.

Capitalism is a system of resource distribution which actively prevents equilibrium. All systems approach equilibrium unless prevented from doing so by a constantly applied external force. In capitalism, that force is systematic hierarchical violence.

Civilization is based on a clearly defined and widely accepted yet often unarticulated hierarchy. Violence done by those higher on the hierarchy to those lower is nearly always invisible, that is, unnoticed. When it is noticed, it is fully rationalized.
Violence done by those lower on the hierarchy to those higher is unthinkable, and when it does occur is regarded with shock, horror, and the fetishization of the victims. Our way of living—industrial civilization—is based on, requires, and would collapse very quickly without persistent and widespread violence.

The property of those higher on the hierarchy is more valuable than the lives of those below. It is acceptable for those above to increase the amount of property they control—in everyday language, to make money—by destroying or taking the lives of those below. This is called production.
If those below damage the property of those above, those above may kill or otherwise destroy the lives of those below. This is called justice.

Within this culture, economics—not community well-being, not morals, not ethics, not justice, not life itself—drives social decisions. Social decisions are determined primarily (and often exclusively) on the basis of whether these decisions will increase the monetary fortunes of the decision-makers and those they serve.
Stated another way -  Social decisions are founded primarily (and often exclusively) on the almost entirely unexamined belief that the decision-makers and those they serve are entitled to magnify their power and/or financial fortunes at the expense of all those beneath them in the hierarchy.

You're right, I should stop eating and drinking water so I can be totally certain I'm not indirectly exploiting anyone.  

This is you. I'm not going anywhere pal. But capitalism is going to Asia and leaving your sorry american ass behind.

The simple fact that you own products mean people were exploited for you to have them.

Move to a truly socialist nation like Venezuela where people clearly aren't exploited.

I exploit no one as I have no employees. My survival instinct does not overwhelm my sense of ethical decency.

"Extinguish the threat" sounds a lot like a sociopath's euphemism for murder. I sure hope I'm wrong, but here you have revealed the waiting violence all capitalists hide in their hearts. So two wrongs make a right?

I loathe violence but I wouldn't hesitate to use it to protect myself or my loved ones.

But when the revolution comes I'll do everything in my power to prevent the senseless massacre of the elite capitalists I hate so much.

Wrong, I was raised Christian. Resolving one's own cognitive dissonance is how one goes from being a theist to an atheist. In essence this is the first trick every former-theist learns.

You got a case of cognitive dissonance.

If someone breaks into your home (aggression) and is in the process of raping your wife (aggression), the only reasonable response is to extinguish the threat (self-defense).

or is such a pacifist that he is unwilling to use the tools (including violence as a last resort) necessary to protect himself and others.

Again, there is no "the body", there is only self. This is vital to understanding the reality of self without superstition - without soul.  

It only makes sense to refer to oneself as "the body" if you're a head in a jar looking across the room at your headless body.

You are fetishizing life and demonizing death, this is an immature perspective. Life and death are yin and yang.

@Falconer, MakingMoneyHoney

Maybe it was a provocation. Maybe they were trying to goad religious people and trying to frustrate them. Maybe they had other reasons to choose Jerusalem. But you missed the point. None of those things give anyone the right to use violence against them. Depending on where you live religious people can be so very annoying and get away with a lot of stuff they shouldn't. But I wouldn't support killing or attacking them no matter how annoying they are. There is no justification for this attack.

Violence can never be justified by reason.

Again, there is no "the body", there is only self. This is vital to understanding the reality of self without superstition - without soul.  

It only makes sense to refer to oneself as "the body" if you're a head in a jar looking across the room at your headless body.

What you're doing is fetishizing life and demonizing death, this is an infantile perspective. They are two sides of the same coin, yin and yang.

I am my body. You are your body.

You're still causing harm to the body.

The mind/body separation is a false dichotomy. I am my body. You are your body.

If one's life has consisted of more suffering than pleasure, suicide is NOT detrimental to oneself, but a mercy.

Death is also a mercy when you're absolutely certain your future will consist of more suffering than pleasure, as in the case of Aaron Swartz.

To kill oneself you need to do something detrimental, which is harmful to the body, damaging to the body.

For your example of using pills to sleep forever, use Violence defintion number 2: a detrimental treatment.

That's simply not true. One can commit suicide without any pain at all, by drinking or injecting the right combinations of fluids one can die peacefully by falling asleep.

causing detriment, as loss or injury; damaging; harmful.