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I don't think club loyalty should simply be based on the performance of the club or because your favorite or star player is there, if you switched sides due to any reason best known to you then it means you were never a fan in the first place sorry to say, you were just a fan of a particular player. Manchester united has been a strong force intl the EPL it hurts knowing that they are way passed their prime, they are constantly losing to small teams this season, what could actually be the solution to their current problem. Perhaps they need to buy sound players.
Maybe you’re prolly right, maybe your definition of being a fan is totally different from mine. I’ve got my Own way of looking at these things and if it’s not same with yours, then sorry. I didn’t stop being a fan of Man United simply because they performed badly or something of sort like you assume, I had my own reasons. Maybe I figured out I enjoyed football experience better when I’m observing from a neutral perspective. Yeah I have a few players I love their art and enjoying following them, but that doesn’t mean I’ll have to love the club they are simply because I love them.
I love Cristiano Ronaldo, but that doesn’t mean I’ll automatically be a fan of Al Nasir, I’m not saying those who are fans of clubs don’t know what they’re doing, I’m just saying I’m not like that, I have a different way of seeing things and I love it that way.
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Presently if you asked me I would say Manchester City are the team in Manchester that are more of in a crisis, yes United needs to improve but in recent games Manchester United are becoming better off than Manchester City.

United has signed a new coach who has been impressive in his former team, Sporting CP so I think he needs some time although he has said that Manchester United needs to improve more as a team and not only be recognized as a big team and I very much agree with him.
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I used to be a fan of Manchester United way back then in the days Alex, but after his retirement, just as you've rightly said, I don't think there's been any coach that can be compared to him, his dedication and commitment to the club I believe was his greatest tool that made the team soar, and yes, his relationship and connection with his team could be seen as another reason the club has been thriving back then. And I think this is the major problem Manchester United is facing, the coaches who come into the club I believe fail to establish a better relationship with the players, Eric Ten Hag is a great Coach and an experienced leader, but it takes more than that to make a club like Manchester United to soar and return to its previous glory. I think Ten Hag prefers to enforce his tactics on the players rather than also giving a listening ears to the players too to talk, and I believe this is the main thing that made him disagree with Cristiano Ronaldo.

If the Coach can connect well with the players, I believe there'll be a positive change in the club's performance.

I don't think club loyalty should simply be based on the performance of the club or because your favorite or star player is there, if you switched sides due to any reason best known to you then it means you were never a fan in the first place sorry to say, you were just a fan of a particular player. Manchester united has been a strong force intl the EPL it hurts knowing that they are way passed their prime, they are constantly losing to small teams this season, what could actually be the solution to their current problem. Perhaps they need to buy sound players.
True loyalty to the club should not depend on performance, coach or certain player, because indeed as true fans we should still support the team in any situation, but if someone only supports the club based on a certain player or coach, then he is not a fans from the club but he is a fan from that coach or player.

Btw I think currently Manchester United problems have been solved with the recruitment of Amorim as a coach,  so maybe the OP needs to replace this thread with a new title, namely Manchester City current crisis and what could be the solution  Grin.
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I used to be a fan of Manchester United way back then in the days Alex, but after his retirement, just as you've rightly said, I don't think there's been any coach that can be compared to him, his dedication and commitment to the club I believe was his greatest tool that made the team soar, and yes, his relationship and connection with his team could be seen as another reason the club has been thriving back then. And I think this is the major problem Manchester United is facing, the coaches who come into the club I believe fail to establish a better relationship with the players, Eric Ten Hag is a great Coach and an experienced leader, but it takes more than that to make a club like Manchester United to soar and return to its previous glory. I think Ten Hag prefers to enforce his tactics on the players rather than also giving a listening ears to the players too to talk, and I believe this is the main thing that made him disagree with Cristiano Ronaldo.

If the Coach can connect well with the players, I believe there'll be a positive change in the club's performance.

I don't think club loyalty should simply be based on the performance of the club or because your favorite or star player is there, if you switched sides due to any reason best known to you then it means you were never a fan in the first place sorry to say, you were just a fan of a particular player. Manchester united has been a strong force intl the EPL it hurts knowing that they are way passed their prime, they are constantly losing to small teams this season, what could actually be the solution to their current problem. Perhaps they need to buy sound players.
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Yet again, Manchester United breaks another bad record. They break their worst start last season. Their current stats are even worse than last season. They scored 5 goals in 7 games. That's far worse than Ole's worst start, which was 9 goals in 7 games.

It's unbelievable that people still doubt if their coach, Ten Hag, is the problem. And i think with all of the evidence above, he's sackable now.

I'm feeling like keeping Ten hag on this season has been a really bad decision from Glazer and Ineos. It's getting worse. They've invested more money in him, and it won't pay off.
Since ten hag became Manchester United manager, he has spent a whole lot of funds and yet results keeps getting worse by the season and yet he's yet to be sacked, I wonder what is still keeping him because the Manchester United i know before would have served him later long before now but it keeps surprising me how he's has been able to stay this long even with the terrible results, maybe till he gets Manchester United relegated then they will see to the fact that he should leave t he team, he's one of the well paid in England just like the players yet he only keeps getting worse, it's so sad a thing for such a big team.
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Well, the only solution I can think of right now would be an elimination method... Erick has failed the club and, the more he's tolerated for his incompetence, the more he keeps getting it all wrong. I'm trying to think of what really got Manchester United's interest to signing him as a head coach in the first place.

This is one of the worse seasons in the premier league for Manchester United as they keep struggling in the 14th position on the league table. How impressive is that supposed to be?
Erick has been stressing on the cleansheets he has achieved - what does 4 clean sheets got to do with securing a good position on the table? I think he really needs to hands off for someone with a better strategy.
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-Could it be they hasn’t found the right manager to deliver the job.
The problem of Manchester United to me is the coach. The coach is not doing well even though many may think he has won a trophy with United, I still think he should be sacked, and a better manager be brought in. The coach has bad relationship with the players in my opinion and that is why some of the players have refused to put in their best because they think the coach does not deserve it. See Jadon Sancho for instance who the coach refused forgiving and sent to Chelsea but now he's doing very well in Chelsea even better than he did under Manchester United that is a sign that the coach is not fit for the club.
Manchester United will travel to play Aston Villa this weekend, I am sure they will loose that game because Unia Emery is currently a better coach.
I agree with you, my view is that the arrival of the current coach has made the Red Devils club complicated and messy. He just came in and started selling good players just to bring in players from his old club Ajax. With a fairly large transfer fee behind it, I think there is a business conflict. And even a good player Ronaldo is very disappointed, he rarely plays when he plays, a good player, a football icon, just sits on the bench. The arrival of the current coach makes me never watch Manchester United because the concept from the beginning looks very bad. The key is the current coach, everything can slowly return to normal.
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Yet again, Manchester United breaks another bad record. They break their worst start last season. Their current stats are even worse than last season. They scored 5 goals in 7 games. That's far worse than Ole's worst start, which was 9 goals in 7 games.

It's unbelievable that people still doubt if their coach, Ten Hag, is the problem. And i think with all of the evidence above, he's sackable now.

I'm feeling like keeping Ten hag on this season has been a really bad decision from Glazer and Ineos. It's getting worse. They've invested more money in him, and it won't pay off.
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Manchester United as a historical club. Who’s achievement is other football club dreams. Has in the past years lost its glory after Alex Ferguson stepped down as the manager. He has been succeeded by many managers after he retired and non has been able to continue in his legacy not to talk of doing greater things nor achieving something greater.
-The question is what could be the reason to It’s down fall?
Lot of people said Man U are facing karma, as a result of match fixing and bribery. Could this be true?
United hasn’t been the same after Ferguson left the club.
-Could it be mismanagement or the owners aren’t putting out more effort to see the glory going forward?
-Could it be they hasn’t found the right manager to deliver the job.
-Could it be the players at some point don’t bother about the the future of the club as a result of the high wages they received.
Something needs to be done to restore Man U back to its glory
Well, you are right, something indeed needs to be done to restore the glory of Manchester united, but the big question is...
1. What is exactly the thing that needs to be done?
2. Who is the right person to proper do whatever is it that needs to be done?

Look, it's really a hard time for Manchester united, and to be honest, I am not surprised, the law of gravity is real and affects every thing that is man made, which is to tell you that nothing stays up forever, it's only a matter of time and it will come crashing..
Even the much celebrated Manchester city today will one day come crashing as well, it's only a matter of time.

So, my personal advice and conclusion is that, what Manchester united are going through is nothing far from the ordinary, they should keep doing their best, the coach should put his all and the players should play with one vision, with time, they will scale through this challenging time, and the management should also consider hiring a better coach if really the coach is the problem.
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I previously did not expect more about Manchester United and their problems are just like problems in general in other clubs, but it seems that there is a lot of enthusiasm about this big club so that a special thread was made to bring up the problems of Man United, this is quite crazy and cool, and proves that how great Man united was in the past and bad in the era of crisis now.
It seems like the serious talk here about, Man Unitted's problem is the coach, from people's perspective it all leads to that, even so I'm quite doubtful that the problems that occur there must be a trigger that might be bigger than that, but it hasn't gone public yet.
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Well, perhaps there are many reasons, and the first reason is the change in the way of thinking of the club owners after the era of Sir Alex Ferguson, and I think that they are the big problem in the club during the past years, the club’s lack of real first-class stars and the failure to find a capable coach to revive the spirit of competition in the players.

 In general, all clubs go through this , and Manchester United is a big team and will return to the position it was in.
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Manchester United's crisis is connected with many reasons. In part, it is connected with the actions of the Glazer family, who rather inconsistently considered various scenarios for the club's fate, right up to its sale. In part, it is connected with the unfortunate choice of coach. One of the key problems is the unreasonable large expenditure of money on players, despite the fact that many analysts still doubt the effectiveness of these expenses. In addition, the club may have problems with the style of play, which is again connected with the personality of the coach. In other words, we have a whole complex of problems and it is not always easy to determine what is primary and what is secondary. But most likely, the key reasons are connected with the management of the club and the coaching work.
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-Could it be they hasn’t found the right manager to deliver the job.
The problem of Manchester United to me is the coach. The coach is not doing well even though many may think he has won a trophy with United, I still think he should be sacked, and a better manager be brought in. The coach has bad relationship with the players in my opinion and that is why some of the players have refused to put in their best because they think the coach does not deserve it. See Jadon Sancho for instance who the coach refused forgiving and sent to Chelsea but now he's doing very well in Chelsea even better than he did under Manchester United that is a sign that the coach is not fit for the club.
Manchester United will travel to play Aston Villa this weekend, I am sure they will loose that game because Unia Emery is currently a better coach.
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Currently, I have seen lots of people calling out Eric Ten Hag for the poor performances of Manchester United. I do not agree that the problem of Manchester United is the coach only, the management of Manchester United is weak and has been unable to produce positive results over the past years. With all the obvious poor performances of the current coach, why is it taking the management too long to address the issue of the coach? This is to show how weak the system is.

Manchester United needs a total restructuring. Starting from the management, the coach and down to the players. No capable hands have been able to manage Man United since Alex stepped down, once we get one person who is capable, we will all see the results.
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Manchester United as a historical club. Who’s achievement is other football club dreams. Has in the past years lost its glory after Alex Ferguson stepped down as the manager. He has been succeeded by many managers after he retired and non has been able to continue in his legacy not to talk of doing greater things nor achieving something greater.
-The question is what could be the reason to It’s down fall?
The current team seems to have lost their spirit. It doesn’t have the same passion as the previous state of the team. Even the players seem to not be giving their 100% best. But it is not just the players’ fault. I personally believe that the players can get their spirits back only if the coach knew how to. He is the one who has to lift the whole team up and make sure they can follow coaching tactics that actually makes sense and works.
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Something needs to be done to restore Man U back to its glory
They might need to turn the whole team around. Turn it inside out. There is not just one wrong thing in the team currently, there’s multiple wrong things, so everything needs to be rebuilt for them to go back to their former days.
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Manchester United as a historical club. Who’s achievement is other football club dreams. Has in the past years lost its glory after Alex Ferguson stepped down as the manager. He has been succeeded by many managers after he retired and non has been able to continue in his legacy not to talk of doing greater things nor achieving something greater.
-The question is what could be the reason to It’s down fall?
Lot of people said Man U are facing karma, as a result of match fixing and bribery. Could this be true?
United hasn’t been the same after Ferguson left the club.
-Could it be mismanagement or the owners aren’t putting out more effort to see the glory going forward?
-Could it be they hasn’t found the right manager to deliver the job.
-Could it be the players at some point don’t bother about the the future of the club as a result of the high wages they received.
Something needs to be done to restore Man U back to its glory

Manchester United's decline after Sir Alex's retirement Ferguson is complex and difficult to attribute to one factor. Rumors about football organizing or financing often play a role in this. Because these seem more like speculation. The crux of the club's struggles appears to stem from poor leadership. football changes And perhaps there is an identity crisis behind Ferris.

With the departure of Ferguson United thus lost the style of leadership that had been their backbone for more than two decades. Ferguson's ability to manage players, adjust strategies and maintain a winning spirit is unmatched. And could any of his successors replicate that level of success? Whether it be David Moyes, Louis van Gaal, Jose Mourinho or even Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, no one has been able to create a vision or a long-term deal.

Poor governance could also be part of it. Especially as far as the club running from top to bottom. There are criticisms of ownership by the Glazer family. Many fans do feel more about the business side of the club rather than sporting glory. The maverick approach in the signings also worked. With costly signings not always attached to the club's philosophy or strategy.

High wages and attitude of players may be one factor too. Manchester financial muscle United means they are pulling in the superstars. At times, though, it seems that players lack the hunger or tenacity to bring the club back to where it was. After all, the focus of players has now changed from inheritance to money. It is perhaps one of the biggest factors affecting the performance and team integration of a side.

It would be good to have the right leader but they also need time, support to build up a cohesive team. Ferguson was given time to groom his team but in modern football, it is impatient with a high expectation of instant results.


All three could be possible obviously but that doesn't mean one of them has to be true, maybe they are all true? We already saw Glazers were bad, ineos seems like they are not doing a great job so far neither but maybe they will do better later on.

We need to realize sometimes there are bigger problems though, sure it's a mismanaged team but also ETH is a terrible manager as well, he doesn't make changes that will fix the team and his transfer requests makes no sense, this team doesn't even have a proper left back and he bought another Dutch offensive player. Also players may not be caring anymore as well, because they know ETH will leave if they do badly, and they obviously do not want a manager who throws them under the bus when the team does badly, it is not a good look for the players and their future when manager bashes them on conference speeches so they want him gone, so they play badly, or basically not caring. So they will recover when ETH leaves.

That is right many things can happen; chances are that Manchester United's issue is all of three above poor management bad manager And possibly lack of motivation due to position of the player The Glazer family has been held in a poor light by critics for many years. And focusing more on the business end rather than the sporting end does seem to impact the club even if it is going to be taken over by Ineos. As it turns out, though, it's still too early to say whether they will turn things around. Change of ownership doesn't automatically mean overnight restoration of success to most clubs. As we have seen in other groups as well.

When it comes to Erik ten Hag (ETH), I agree that some of his decisions Especially regarding team transfers and strategies. Still not quite right for the club. Signing players who cannot immediately meet the team's needs, such as a good left back. It creates an unbalanced team. Leave a gap that your opponent can exploit. But the important thing to remember is that Changes in management can destroy the long-term vision. And United have had some since Ferguson left.

The attitude of the players is another important factor, as we mentioned earlier. When the group became less committed and they felt that the manager's comments at the press conference were being undermined. It is normal for their motivation to decrease. Players need to feel supported by their manager. It was not publicly condemned. But if lack of commitment is the only goal in forcing ETH out, then that is cause for concern. Because it indicates a lack of efficiency. No matter what the leader is The group and its legacy must come first.
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All three could be possible obviously but that doesn't mean one of them has to be true, maybe they are all true? We already saw Glazers were bad, ineos seems like they are not doing a great job so far neither but maybe they will do better later on.

We need to realize sometimes there are bigger problems though, sure it's a mismanaged team but also ETH is a terrible manager as well, he doesn't make changes that will fix the team and his transfer requests makes no sense, this team doesn't even have a proper left back and he bought another Dutch offensive player. Also players may not be caring anymore as well, because they know ETH will leave if they do badly, and they obviously do not want a manager who throws them under the bus when the team does badly, it is not a good look for the players and their future when manager bashes them on conference speeches so they want him gone, so they play badly, or basically not caring. So they will recover when ETH leaves.
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Well their solution to the problems they’ve had since Ferguson left in 2013 has been a continuous sacking of managers and reckless spending on players. They have spent £1,600,000,000 on players since Ferguson retired.

The answer is to buy younger, talented, hungry players, not waste money on finished players like Casemiro. There has to be better coaching on the training ground too. How much longer will Ten Hag get if results don't improve? What then though, employ somebody else and sack him in a year or two?

I think their structure at board level has changed, they have to hope the right players can be targeted. The likes of Rashford need to be offloaded too, they have too many high earning players who have failed under multiple managers. If I was their new majority owner, I would want a world class Sporting Director with a dedicated transfer team. It has all been a bit like blind leading the blind for a long time. Their problems run deeper than just whichever manager they have.
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Well, I do believe that the reason why man United have not been the way it was from the time of Alex is because non of their manager have ever performed the way Alex Ferguson did. The success of a team is not usually determined by the kind of leader they have and the leader of a team is supposed to employ all good strategy to make sure their team remain the best. The solution is to get a perfect manager for the club.
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-Could it be they hasn’t found the right manager to deliver the job.

Since Sir Alex left, we can see how Manchester United slowly lost its performance. He was a smart brain who not only brought MU to its highest point, but also made it a club with many fans all over the world. Sir Alex is like the most appropriate figure to lead MU because from his mind many great MU players were created, the most we know is CR7. So from these few things, we can see how MU needs the best manager figure to bring this club back to its glory days, indeed it is not an easy thing, but I still believe that there will be a figure who can bring MU back to its glory days.
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