Topic: Manchester United current crisis and what could be the solution - page 2. (Read 243 times)

I don't think karma has anything to do with it, nor can it do anything. Don't particularly believe in it nor do I think it should even be used as a reason since it's mostly just escapism imo.

Anyway, If I were to pick it'd be their manager? The team always struggles to follow through with the stuff that he wants to push so they always perform subpar during matches. There's probably a bunch of other factors involved like the surrounding issues with the team distracting them for one but I think the major factor here is still him. It's just trying to stuff a key towards a keyhole that's obviously mismatched.

That, or Ten Hag starts changing. Right now it's just frustrating since it looks like they're just banging their heads to a wall hoping it breaks down one day.

Cumulative goal difference by the manager. (Manchester United)



The only solution for Manchester United is to sack Ten Hag. Then, bring back either Ole or Mourinho. Although Ten Hag helped us win two trophies in two seasons. But, his team's performance is always slowing down. His team has always struggled to win games in domestic and European competitions. His team recorded a new record in the history of Manchester United with the most conceded goals. His team has the lowest goal-scoring rate since Ole and Mourinho coached.

Ten Hag is the root of all problems in the club. And getting rid him of the club will save Manchester United.

I covered this on the other thread of @rdbase.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.64596733

Truly, I think Erik has some power over the management and I think they won't sack him that easily. They are giving him a chance and with a tie game against Porto, he might only need to win against Aston Villa and they will still keep him.
What if he loses? According to the video that I shared on that thread that I mentioned, there is a chance he will be sacked if he loses both the Porto game and Aston Villa.
All we have to do is wait and since OP said that many fans are unhappy about what is happening, they might be forced to do that just to make their fans happy. Still, I doubt it could happen that easily, I also kind of feel that they will give him more chances even if he loses.

We can't just be too sure about Erik ten Hag leaving Manchester United anytime soon and that's because the Dutch manager after yesterday draw at Porto was telling the press that his team should be judged at the end of the season which I think suggests that he currently have the backing of the club management. Erik ten Hag have been criticized in the media on several occasions this season but that hasn't made the club management to change their minds about the Dutch manager so I don't think there's anything we can do to save the situation at Manchester United at the moment.  

Man United have sacked coaches far more easily, and Ten Haag indeed looks like he's got some immunity from the club, despite his signings and players request doesn't seem to tally with any specific style or approach to football, neither does he actually appear to have clue about how he wants his team to play.

It's really surprising that with the disastrous start to the new season for the club, his job doesn't even appear to be at stake.


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There is only one temporary fix to Man United's immediate problem(s) "sack Erik Ten Haag."

I see Ferguson as the ghost behind Manchester United misfortune falling on them since he left the club as the manager. This is because he is the one deciding on which coach to bring in or not and that is very bad because he should allow the club management to decide on their own on the right thing to do that will bring progress to the club.

During Ferguson regime, he was given the chance to make his decisions and that helped him a lot to be successful with the clubs. So why is he still around the club to make coaching decisions that might end up being a big disappointment. If he wants to come back to the club fine, he can resume work immediately because I know that everyone will be happy and let him stop intervening in the club's coaching aspect.

No team is ever an island that can't experience some hard time in some seasons. Every club have passed through that phase when they had to struggle with some technical or managerial issue that went on to affect thier play. Chelsea went through that phase and almost sacked all the coaches they had in the past and today they are gradually gaining ground. What's happening to Manchester United could be a managerial crisis, a coach inability to make the right decision or some internal crisis that the press might not have access to. Whatever it is, is nothing not too bad that they can't handle if they're intentional about it. If you look at it critically, all the leagues have become too competitive that everyone now knows that no team in unbeatable. For you to remain in the winning side with the mentality and hunger most teams has, you have to forget about whatever past track record you've once had and play your game like this is the first and last trophy you're ever going to win.

I'm a very critique person when it comes to current situation of United but if so many people are vocal about this and no changes are made , then , I actually believe that this project is meant to be a very long one and if this is true , I can't see Ten Hag leaving anytime soon , especially with Ferguson still running things from shadows. Also , what coaches are suitable enough for United ? because I can look across Europe and I can barely find a top coach that is available but also wants to coach United.

Ten Hag is authoritative in nature, and maybe that has worked pretty well for him in other clubs he's coached in the past. Yes, the players of Manchester United has spoken highly of Ten Hag and probably seen him as their dream coach judging from a distance, but like we already know, most relatiomships are always more valued from a distant perspective, and now they have their dream Coach, they may have probably noticed a few shortcomings that they never saw from a distant view.

And concerning Cristiano Ronaldo, one thing you need to understand is that, Ronaldo is a experienced player, and with all his experience and expertise has all it takes to single handedly coach a team, and since he has played in Manchester United before when the club was still at its prime so we'd assume that he knows just what the team needs to excel, yeah no player is above the club and two people cannot captain a ship, but still the expertise and contribution of Ronaldo would've been more than resourceful if you ask me, but Ten Hag wanted to do it all by himself since he believes he's got all it takes.

Firstly I agreed with you when we talk about ten hag building a good relationship with the players. Secondly I disagree with you on that of his disagreement with Christian Ronaldo. But wanted the best for the club he ten hag and Ronaldo. But then Ronaldo was going to far to show that. As a player you can’t be bigger than the coach, management and owners. Even tho the management misunderstood Ronaldo and ignorantly dealt with him the way they did was because Ronaldo in other hand felt he bigger than the club due to his personality and and his worth. Ten hag somehow lacks the ability to maintain good relationships with the players which see him enforcing his tactics on them just to prove he has what it take to coach such a historical club. This he once in his interview when he came in to the club. Now this didn’t go well for him and the players. Ten hag was every Man U fans dream coach whom they thought was going to take up the legacy from where Alex left it.
Now the relationship aspect played a big roll in both turning things around for the good and for the worse. This is humans you dealing with. And not everyone wi like you. He ten haha should had maintained that standard since he already has implemented it. But then along the line his favoritism became so obvious when he thought he was too hash for the players since the fans where not happy with the way Ronaldo’s situation turned out. Now he wants to establish that relationship with the players and it now looks like he doesn’t stand on his word as a coach. Also the management and owners aren’t doing any good to the club.

Now this is the reason Man U fan has been against the glazers family. Wanting them to leave the club because it’s obvious they have nothing to offer rather them making more money from the club.
Sheikh Jassim had a better plan establishing the club therefore seeing it attain that success the fans want.
The glazers family who almost agreed to sell the club. Ended up going pushing the price tag high just to get sheikh interest off the club, just after the UK government knew they weren’t going to be making money out of the club like they do now it’s under the glazers control.
Those who says football isn’t about money.
Should consider that weren’t all in a modern football era which sees each time spend money to get quality players with the help of a good management.
If you must succeed in this modern era of football. You must be ready to spend to get what you want.
People laughter at Toddy owner of Chelsea for lavish money on players. Now who has the last laugh. His money finally got him what he wanted and watch him make his money back. This is business.
Like I said the management at this point is the problem Man U are having. Get rid of this players and get a better coach if the current one isn’t delivering the job.

You gave three possible reasons and the last two reasons have been tried by Manchester United owners with many coaches and players came and went after Sir. Alex Ferguson era. All these things did not work and logically there is one reason left, the first one.

It belongs to the club owners and their bad management as well as failed strategies that have been used to develop their club in many recent years. If their owners see this fact, they will need to change themselves and if they can not change their management strategies, one last option for them. It's selling the club and leave, perhaps new owner can do it better.

I used to be a fan of Manchester United way back then in the days Alex, but after his retirement, just as you've rightly said, I don't think there's been any coach that can be compared to him, his dedication and commitment to the club I believe was his greatest tool that made the team soar, and yes, his relationship and connection with his team could be seen as another reason the club has been thriving back then. And I think this is the major problem Manchester United is facing, the coaches who come into the club I believe fail to establish a better relationship with the players, Eric Ten Hag is a great Coach and an experienced leader, but it takes more than that to make a club like Manchester United to soar and return to its previous glory. I think Ten Hag prefers to enforce his tactics on the players rather than also giving a listening ears to the players too to talk, and I believe this is the main thing that made him disagree with Cristiano Ronaldo.

If the Coach can connect well with the players, I believe there'll be a positive change in the club's performance.

Manchester United as a historical club. Who’s achievement is other football club dreams. Has in the past years lost its glory after Alex Ferguson stepped down as the manager. He has been succeeded by many managers after he retired and non has been able to continue in his legacy not to talk of doing greater things nor achieving something greater.
-The question is what could be the reason to It’s down fall?
Lot of people said Man U are facing karma, as a result of match fixing and bribery. Could this be true?
United hasn’t been the same after Ferguson left the club.
-Could it be mismanagement or the owners aren’t putting out more effort to see the glory going forward?
-Could it be they hasn’t found the right manager to deliver the job.
-Could it be the players at some point don’t bother about the the future of the club as a result of the high wages they received.
Something needs to be done to restore Man U back to its glory