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Quote from: Lorence.xD on May 03, 2021, 11:04:34 PM

Quote from: livingfree on May 03, 2021, 06:44:42 PM

The same with One Piece, another popular manga.

But the twist goes for those who will have a match up. For example: Basil Hawkins versus X-Drake or so as the latest arc is now in Wanokuni.

The usual thing we know in manga and series', we know that it's most of the time the main character wins.

That's the problem, they have a plot armor of some sort so I understand why it isn't good for a large scale betting, it's more of a your friend bet on who wins in the match in the manga.

Yes, and they have to get into the latest manga chapter every week or whenever there's a release.

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Quote from: livingfree on May 03, 2021, 06:44:42 PM

The same with One Piece, another popular manga.

But the twist goes for those who will have a match up. For example: Basil Hawkins versus X-Drake or so as the latest arc is now in Wanokuni.

The usual thing we know in manga and series', we know that it's most of the time the main character wins.

That's it , how can someone provide a gambling set up that will surely makes them lose in the end ? because the problem of Manga movies are always the main character will win and will beat the antagonist whatever the fight goes in the middle.
so consider it as a viewed ending always.

Sometimes there's a twist but as we know, the main character always gets to win a match or a battle. But there could be something else that they can put into betting if there will be a casino that will add this type of betting but I doubt that there will be.

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Quote from: death69 on May 04, 2021, 03:18:34 AM

You can have all sorts of gambling in the world as long as you willing to host it. This type of gambling is only suitable for a small group of people because if there is a casino organize such bet, authors of the stories will likely change the plot so as to benefit himself. Moreover, if the participants are too rich, they can spend money to rewrite the story, too.

In conclusion, it might be fun to make such bet with your homies who are also Weaboos but it is not good to join any large casino because of the manipulation

Probably but from the OP, it says that it is more of a small bet with your friends who read the manga too so that means that OP didn't really meant to make it a big betting event because it is impossible since the writer can get the wind that there is a betting for what happens next.

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Quote from: death69 on May 04, 2021, 03:18:34 AM

You can have all sorts of gambling in the world as long as you willing to host it.

including illegal ? but some can go away with illegal gambling if they do it secretly and if manga betting exist,
i think this can also fall in illegal betting category because betting in it can ruin the story of manga series .

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if there is a casino organize such bet, authors of the stories will likely change the plot so as to benefit himself. Moreover, if the participants are too rich, they can spend money to rewrite the story, too.

whats the point of gambling if they will pay to fix the game or if they are already rich ? .
if you follow the manga series for a long time you will notice if there are weird changes in the story . you know who to blame :wink:

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You can have all sorts of gambling in the world as long as you willing to host it. This type of gambling is only suitable for a small group of people because if there is a casino organize such bet, authors of the stories will likely change the plot so as to benefit himself. Moreover, if the participants are too rich, they can spend money to rewrite the story, too.

In conclusion, it might be fun to make such bet with your homies who are also Weaboos but it is not good to join any large casino because of the manipulation

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Quote from: livingfree on May 03, 2021, 06:44:42 PM

The same with One Piece, another popular manga.

But the twist goes for those who will have a match up. For example: Basil Hawkins versus X-Drake or so as the latest arc is now in Wanokuni.

The usual thing we know in manga and series', we know that it's most of the time the main character wins.

That's it , how can someone provide a gambling set up that will surely makes them lose in the end ? because the problem of Manga movies are always the main character will win and will beat the antagonist whatever the fight goes in the middle.
so consider it as a viewed ending always.

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If for casual gambling, not a serious one, then it would be okay. It's the same "level" as betting on a streamer whether he is going to win or lose on a multiplayer game. Yes, he (the streamer) can intentionally throw matches, but that's the fun element in it.

There is also betting on Jose Mourinho Next Club? when he, his family, his manager, and all the parties involved already know the answer.

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Not reaallyy a good idea, especially since the winner is determined by someone, and not something. Unlike competitions where it's basically transparent how players win, betting on who wins in a manga seems unfruitful imo. As others have said, the ending has most likely been pre-determined, so having a bet in a pre-determined fight, I guess you can realize how stupid the idea sounds no? If it's with friends then feel free but it honestly isn't a good idea imo. Plot development could be seen at times and characters have their plot armors so the winners could be determined through that, and not really based on strength levels or skills.

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Quote from: livingfree on May 03, 2021, 06:44:42 PM

The same with One Piece, another popular manga.

But the twist goes for those who will have a match up. For example: Basil Hawkins versus X-Drake or so as the latest arc is now in Wanokuni.

The usual thing we know in manga and series', we know that it's most of the time the main character wins.

That's the problem, they have a plot armor of some sort so I understand why it isn't good for a large scale betting, it's more of a your friend bet on who wins in the match in the manga.

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on May 03, 2021, 06:53:56 AM

I was reading Kengan Omega and Records of Ragnarok and I think that it can be used for potential betting because the story is ongoing and it is a fight which means that we can put our bets on who wins or whether the round is a draw. RoR has a predetermined roster though so you can only bet on who wins the match and no in-between since it is a fight to the death. Does anyone think that it can be a good idea to bet on the fights that only the writers know who will win?

I don't think this is a good idea because it can be manipulated and you might lose your money easily especially if you bet against the creator of this Manga. You can ask your friends who support this Manga to have bet with you but don't think to make it online because there will be cheaters if ever. Just enjoy reading the Manga and watching Anime, I'm also a supporter of Manga love them so much.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on May 03, 2021, 09:13:14 AM

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And what if the writers will make heavy bets on the characters they will decide to win? Do you think that is still fair? Or what if a wealthy or very powerful person approaches the writer and bribes him to tell him which character will turn out the winner? Or what if some syndicate group will look for the manga author or creator and force him to write the way they wanted because they have already made large bets on a certain character?

1) Read the thread. OP said there are no sites offering a market for manga so it's a personal bet, not the biggest betting event of the year attracting powerful ppl, the mafia and billions of dollars, 2) gambling in japan is banned so none of what u said is gonna happen anyway

1. I am responding to the OP. He made no mention of personal bets there.

2. There's actually legal sports betting in Japan, lottery and betting on horse racing too. Those are gambling. And if ever this kind of betting becomes a reality, the platform and the bookies don't have to be based and registered in Japan.

3. We are all discussing here of something that is not happening, so we are all free to air our side and express our opinion.

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on May 03, 2021, 06:53:56 AM

I was reading Kengan Omega and Records of Ragnarok and I think that it can be used for potential betting because the story is ongoing and it is a fight which means that we can put our bets on who wins or whether the round is a draw. RoR has a predetermined roster though so you can only bet on who wins the match and no in-between since it is a fight to the death. Does anyone think that it can be a good idea to bet on the fights that only the writers know who will win?

If there is demand then the market will exist. Simple as that.

I simply don't think that right now, there is sufficient manga readers who are interested in actively speculating on the outcomes for real money. Perhaps discussions/friendly games would be a popular mode though - something like a fantasy league/bracket could work.

Also, as a gambler, you have to ask yourself whether this is going to be worth it. The writers could actively manipulate the outcomes for personal profit, or even employ others to bet for them. This is not like sports where outcomes are (hopefully) random as it is bilateral. This is completely unilateral.

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on May 03, 2021, 07:35:24 AM

I want it more of like a personal/informal betting, this is a weird betting and I don't think that there is any site that is going to list that.

For that idea, you can set up a thread and see if someone will take a challenge.

Who knows that others are also aware of that subject and accept your bet.

As you said, this kind of betting can only be done, possibly, only thru betting against each other.

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You can bet on ANYTHING, literally. There's not a thing that can't be turned into something people can bet on.
So, yes, it's a possibility, and I personally think this would be interesting. Sport is fun, but sometimes I'm bored of it and something new would be entertaining.
Also, another amazing feature of such "matches" would be that they're 100% not rigged and you can make predictions by analyzing the known data about the characters. People change in real life, but in books/movies, they pretty much stay the same.
So yeah, I'd definitely try that out, I actually think it's a neat idea, maybe you should promote this and make a business out of it? You could make a fortune if people latch onto it.

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on May 03, 2021, 07:35:24 AM

I want it more of like a personal/informal betting

then go for it. I doubt the manga author would want to manipulate the story in order to mess with your bets Cheesy

For sure that will really be the case and its still hard to trust up with these kind of betting where bets can easily be fucked up depending on the mind of the writer.

Come to think that each decision would really be possibly be altered nor get affected with several external involvement neither it would be personal or really make out some intent for the
sake of making more money.So i dont really see this to be that appealing due to those very common reasons.

maybe this is also one of the reasons why there's no bookie that got interested in manga betting. as the results can be potentially change by the writer esp if he knows there's large money at stake. there are several gambling-related manga though. Tongue

but we are not closing on this idea. because there are so many manga followers here and at some point, they may set-up their own pvp betting on this area.

Yes, this is what im saying.If ever there are gambling that do correlates with manga events the can you share it out? I do make out some research but i havent found one.

Most likely these would be done on local betting towards other people but having some international sites about manga betting is something we cant just easily to find.

Those factors i had mentioned will really be most likely to be the problem on why this one isnt really that appealing to make some bets.

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The same with One Piece, another popular manga.

But the twist goes for those who will have a match up. For example: Basil Hawkins versus X-Drake or so as the latest arc is now in Wanokuni.

The usual thing we know in manga and series', we know that it's most of the time the main character wins.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on May 03, 2021, 05:24:27 PM

If this is implemented, doesn't this mean that all the teams involved in the making must already know the results of betting because they have already known the plot of the story or manga?

it was the author that creates the story line not the staff and other parts of the team but some of them will be able to tell if whats going to be next in the story if ever the author tells them .

Quote from: Rengga Jati on May 03, 2021, 05:24:27 PM

And how do we control them from taking part in betting when we might not cooperate with their industry?

the betting site/organizer is the one that will cooperate to them and tell them that teams are not allowed to participate in the betting .

Quote from: Rengga Jati on May 03, 2021, 05:24:27 PM

Maybe this can be used as a bet between friends, in the sense of people you know and are certainly not part of the team. because this is in order to be fair to others.

idk if manga betting is popular as normal betting but this will likely happen if no betting sites support the manga that you want to bet on .

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If this is implemented, doesn't this mean that all the teams involved in the making must already know the results of betting because they have already known the plot of the story or manga?
And how do we control them from taking part in betting when we might not cooperate with their industry?
Maybe this can be used as a bet between friends, in the sense of people you know and are certainly not part of the team. because this is in order to be fair to others.

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Quote from: Fatunad on May 03, 2021, 03:52:48 PM

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on May 03, 2021, 07:35:24 AM

I want it more of like a personal/informal betting

then go for it. I doubt the manga author would want to manipulate the story in order to mess with your bets Cheesy

For sure that will really be the case and its still hard to trust up with these kind of betting where bets can easily be fucked up depending on the mind of the writer.

Come to think that each decision would really be possibly be altered nor get affected with several external involvement neither it would be personal or really make out some intent for the
sake of making more money.So i dont really see this to be that appealing due to those very common reasons.

maybe this is also one of the reasons why there's no bookie that got interested in manga betting. as the results can be potentially change by the writer esp if he knows there's large money at stake. there are several gambling-related manga though. Tongue

but we are not closing on this idea. because there are so many manga followers here and at some point, they may set-up their own pvp betting on this area.

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There was a website called (I think it was) betsofbitcoin. Does anyone remember that website? Users could create their own events for people to bet on. Moderators would determine the outcome on the appointed date. The site seems to have been shut down years ago.

I know of a ETH token that lets users/holders design their own bets and outcome qualifiers for who wins. I guess people can bet on anything but ideally the amount of money already involved with the outcome not being biased or made known before the end date is far greater then the amounts being bet upon on it. There is a danger the tail will wag the dog if bets are involved with relatively low level events or sports, its unfortunate but it wouldnt be anything new to occur and its best not to tempt fate on this really.

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I haven't seen one bookie that offers manga betting but I don't think that they're going to have this option in the near future. They're focusing on the gamblers that are sharing the same interests in sports which is mostly the apple of the eye for betting.
But it might be if a casino that's dedicated for the same gamblers who are also manga lovers. I think it's going to be needing a lot of effort if it's episode per episode that would have that kind of betting or any part of the story that betting is applicable.

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