Topic: Manila terrorist was in a casino burning casino tables - page 2. (Read 1582 times)

Apparently the attacker is identified and not a terrorist. He is in debt of $80k = 4million php to a bank and his parents confirmed that he is addicted to gambling.

He is not an ISIS, he didnt kill any civilians he was shooting at the ceiling.

Earlier, the ISIS had actually claimed that the attacker was one of their members. And even now, the ISIS connections can't be ruled out 100%. What if the attacker was a convert to radical Islam?

Actually that was not a terrorist attack but instead he was once a normal player that was drowned by debt in addiction in gambling according to what ive heard he has loaned in banks that will total with 4 million something Philippine peso. The guy has some big problems and chose robbery and to kill some people, i dont know maybe he wants to drag some people to before his death.
The main question there is how did he even manage to get those heavy firearms into the casino was the security lacks from the casino itself, they should have block him before he even gets in and has some metal detector to detect any deadly weapons they're security should have pistols.

Its not a terrorist in casino its a man halving a big problem in gambling that i think 1 of the reason why he push to become robbery..
I think he is regretting to have almost $4 million loan from banks and other people and because of addiction in gambling he lose them all.. and one of the reason why he is become crazy i think because he was removed his position in that casino resorts world manila..
I couldn't imagine that there are someone can risk their lives and kill their own self just to run his wrong ways of gambling decision when he is alive..

Well this is what they labelled it at first.
The reason being what is going on with the political climate right now with Duerte and his war against the terrorist organization and the gangs on the south side of the country. Even delcaring martial law.
Do not scorn the media, even if they spin it all they want to make headlines which catch the attention of the ones who can care less what is happening in this far off countries because it does not concern them.
But to the ones who are living in the terrorist climate such as the UK right this second with the London bridge stabbings by *CONFIRMED* terrorists of the Islamic state even showing the emails sent to them with the flyer of a IS-IS flag demanding all who follow them to attack the UK now with anything they can--this being with knifes, chairs and their finger nails in this month of their holy month which last for another two weeks.
This was reported all the public media which you so say do not listen too. This includes the newspapers as well hey? Well then none of this news would reach the ones who these issues matter to then.
Now would they?

I agree this thread should of been in politics because now it has turned that way instead of just a crazy nutcase who firebombed a casino which at first did belong in the gambling section.
Closing this thread after a couple of others who want to chime in to this discussion before I close it off and take it on to the thread someone else directed to earlier which was created before this one and in the political topic section of the forum, which once again, this is what this thread has turned into.
A political discussion and nothing more.

We can't bkame them, they are media, they can talk whatever they want, nobody cares, but most of them believe it. If they are wrong then they can do better another time, and besides, they are just making some conclusions about the incident. Many people think that it is a terrorist attack because it may be, but it is not.

The Western media was using this incident as another excuse to blame the Muslims. But now it has been proven that the attacker was not even a Muslim. The media must apologize now.

These incident is not an terrorist attack but a robbery. And from the news update, these man is a Filipino whose lost a lot of money through gambling and he's even banned on the casino. I think he knew these even before doing the incident, he is a gambler after all, and these topic is also started here : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gunman-in-resorts-world-manila-1945502

I really thought this was all a terrorist attack and i think i heard ISIS taking blame for that as well,Which makes me doubt whether the so many terrorists attack they took credit for where actually done by them, I really doubt it.

Seems like this was just a robbery attack, and not Islamic terrorism. The BBC has just put up the identity and other details of the attacker. He was not a Muslim. His name was Jessie Javier Carlos, and he was struggling with huge debts as a result of his gambling addiction.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40148438

Ignorance always happens because of circumstances. It was the circumstances that forced them to be stupid, because they ran out of capital to play in the casino so he did a thriller robbery, after he realized he had done that stupidity and stole a thing that was worthless and that was where he started to frustrate and commit suicide

Are you aware of the story? Know the whole story first.

It's not a terrorist attack. The gunman was a regular casino player not just in Resorts World's Manila but on other casinos and full of debts and loans. Maybe because of frustration that's why he did that thing. Even with that incident, I feel safe as it was not related to a terrorist attacks. And attacks happens everywhere even in the first world country where security is more secure than that on Philippines. The incident takes place just few miles away from my work location. Employees of nearby establishments there are not afraid so how much more to those people who are rocket away from the place.

It is really a depressing news,to die when you go to a place to have a good time is really bad luck and bad timing,i have never being in a real casino and people who visit a casino could be targeted by con men and robbers and so is the reason i like playing in online casino where you have the privacy from prying eyes,i think these casino's running in Philippines are not secure as there are a number of bomb attacks in restaurants in the past and every year there is one form of terrorist attack in Philippines and i really do not think it is a safe place to visit.

That some crazy thing he did. No one can imagine what he was going in his mind. He stole chips then understood that chips are nothing if you go out of the casino and then he starts killing people and sets fire on the tables of the casino lastly cornered by the police and sets fire on himself.
Casino's will be having more security than banks, how can a single person rob a casino. he was quite stupid I guess.

Well criminals aren't the exactly smartest people. Because to get into such a situation in the first place to be in a desperate way like this to try and rob a casino he must be stupid, crazy or a bit of both.
CCTV cameras everywhere so where would be go and hide?

First thing, may be they really want to rob the casino but mostly casino turns out to have only chips without any cash and he need to get quick money then he thought tokens might be good rather than nothing so they still tokens instead of fiat there. Btw is really totally burned down their casino, if they do not burn it down, i think they still can rebuild it although need huge cost. This is such stupid robbery, already robbed people, killed people and then suicide

He killed a bunch of tourists. Not too sure how many were confirmed to have died after it all happened.
But it was major because you can see the entire casino windows on fire and smoke coming out from another building up the five floors from the cell phone footage they had from a couple of nights ago.

It did look like something out of a movie though man!

I already watched the CCTV footage. Anyways this is not the right section to discussed this.

Let's continue the discussion here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gunman-in-resorts-world-manila-1945502

That is one dump stupid robber,you can see more things happening like this when the world is a greedy place where people will do anything upon their power to make some money,attitude has to be changed and what more i have to say,i am hearing this news for the first time,anybody died because of the incident.

They just released footage of this terrorist in the Philippines.
That is some unbelievable things he did and for what?
All for robbery.
People has to die so that he can steal casino chips?

How did he expect to cash them out?
At another casino?

I guess he realized that he wouldn't be able to since they normally would need to be redeemed at the same casino that distribed the chips. They are tokens after all with the name of the casino where they came from.
And with the serial numbers on them i think he figured out he wouldn't be able to do shit with them and they are worthless.
So all that carnage and chaos was for nothing.
And this is probably the reason why he killed himself after being cornered by the police forces.