Man's bitcoin mining leads to police raiding his home - page 2.

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This was already posted and covered here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/power-company-tip-leads-to-bitcoin-mining-raid-781703

The reason the warrant was issued was him using eight times the normal usage of a residence *AND* because he had previous history of operating growing houses.

It makes sense then. He should have kept the bitcoins offline or somewhere else than his computer. Clearly he wasnt a good dealer or a miner Tongue

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Quote from: Bitcoin Magazine on October 08, 2014, 11:05:13 AM

Quote from: dairy100 on September 14, 2014, 10:19:09 AM

Thats silly. spend all that money to raid someone just for an alleged plant?

u make it sound so innocuous. but it causes schizophrenia in some people

That'd have to be a pretty major study to prove it. You'd have to collect at least a thousand people people in various age, geographical, and ethnic groups, then have one group smoking and one group not, with regular, frequent drug testing. At the start and end, you'd have to then give everyone a psych exam -- this'd help remove any problems with selection bias, I'd guess.

Given how many schizophrenics are undiagnosed, I'd be more willing to bet the possible temporary paranoia of smoking exacerbates the person's eccentricities enough to lead to hospitalization which then leads to a schizophrenia diagnosis. If they put you in the psych ward to start out with in a hospital, that being on your record might influence whether or not a borderline's diagnosed, too.

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Quote from: nsimmons on October 08, 2014, 11:24:12 AM

Quote from: Bitcoin Magazine on October 08, 2014, 11:05:13 AM

Quote from: dairy100 on September 14, 2014, 10:19:09 AM

Thats silly. spend all that money to raid someone just for an alleged plant?

u make it sound so innocuous. but it causes schizophrenia in some people

and tylenol kills thousands of people a year, and peanuts, and shellfish

ban seafood for the childrens!!

LOL! And TV too! Media is bad for children.. Everything on TV is bad for children..

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Quote from: Bitcoin Magazine on October 08, 2014, 11:05:13 AM

Quote from: dairy100 on September 14, 2014, 10:19:09 AM

Thats silly. spend all that money to raid someone just for an alleged plant?

u make it sound so innocuous. but it causes schizophrenia in some people

and tylenol kills thousands of people a year, and peanuts, and shellfish

ban seafood for the childrens!!

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Quote from: dairy100 on September 14, 2014, 10:19:09 AM

Thats silly. spend all that money to raid someone just for an alleged plant?

u make it sound so innocuous. but it causes schizophrenia in some people

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This was already posted and covered here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/power-company-tip-leads-to-bitcoin-mining-raid-781703

The reason the warrant was issued was him using eight times the normal usage of a residence *AND* because he had previous history of operating growing houses.

This isn't a case where some innocent person was raided due to simply using too much electricity. It was that fact combined with his previous criminal history. The seizure of the bitcoin was incidental to the raid. Bitcoin came into the picture AFTER the raid, it was not the cause as so many want to believe.

Whatever your personal feelings are regarding MJ, growing it in Virginia is still very much illegal.

Mining Bitcoin wasn't the issue, it was the grow operation that got him in trouble.

~BCX~

http://www.whsv.com/news/headlines/Pot-Bust-Leads-To-Investigation-into-Mans-Computer-228429621.html

Oh...now it all makes sense..! otherwise i was like...hell..y would they seize everything randomly?

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Quote from: Kluge on September 14, 2014, 11:49:25 PM

Quote from: BTCreward on September 14, 2014, 11:43:20 PM

Quote from: Kluge on September 14, 2014, 07:50:49 PM

This has happened an odd number of times (at least two other times I can vaguely recall). I guess when your electricity provider sends the letter asking what's causing you to draw so much electricity, you damn well better fill it out truthfully and return the form in a timely manner. Undecided

I don't think most electric companies generally make this inquiry. Also most of the times this has happened have always been in Canada that I recall. Maybe it has something to do with canidian law/regulations

Really? At both residences I've mined, I was sent a form a few months after in the US. Don't recall first provider -- second was Consumers.

The form may have been to make sure you don't have some appliance on all the time that generally should not be on (for example an electric stove). When I was mining early last year no one at the electric company payed any attention that my electric consumption suddenly went way up

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Quote from: BTCreward on September 14, 2014, 11:43:20 PM

Quote from: Kluge on September 14, 2014, 07:50:49 PM

This has happened an odd number of times (at least two other times I can vaguely recall). I guess when your electricity provider sends the letter asking what's causing you to draw so much electricity, you damn well better fill it out truthfully and return the form in a timely manner. Undecided

I don't think most electric companies generally make this inquiry. Also most of the times this has happened have always been in Canada that I recall. Maybe it has something to do with canidian law/regulations

Really? At both residences I've mined, I was sent a form a few months after in the US. Don't recall first provider -- second was Consumers.

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Quote from: Kluge on September 14, 2014, 07:50:49 PM

This has happened an odd number of times (at least two other times I can vaguely recall). I guess when your electricity provider sends the letter asking what's causing you to draw so much electricity, you damn well better fill it out truthfully and return the form in a timely manner. Undecided

I don't think most electric companies generally make this inquiry. Also most of the times this has happened have always been in Canada that I recall. Maybe it has something to do with canidian law/regulations

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Though maybe the police can't find the evidence, the deed of commit a crime may block Bitcoin to be accepted by all the governments of the world. The spring of Bitcoin is far.

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This has happened an odd number of times (at least two other times I can vaguely recall). I guess when your electricity provider sends the letter asking what's causing you to draw so much electricity, you damn well better fill it out truthfully and return the form in a timely manner. Undecided

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Quote from: coinmaster222 on September 14, 2014, 10:27:23 AM

Quote from: caribbeanbitcoiner on September 14, 2014, 10:26:34 AM

No, it's a real crappy city down south. I've heard it's the meth capital of the east coast. I don't know how true that is.

Oh I see what you mean now.

Trust me, when somebody says that the town they've lived in is a shit hole, they know what what they're talking about, I don't know if this is a duplicate but it's definitely happened before, the police keep thinking that the electricity spikes from Bitcoin miners are the same as drug labs and such.

This may also be a sign that Bitcoin miners need to look at independent power supplies which can't be tracked LOL Tongue

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This is crazy, I feel bad for the guy, didn't even know it was illegal.

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Ad maiora!

The cops have his rigs mining away down at the station. Donut coin!

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Wow, what a waste of time and money just to find out it was not what they thought it was. Usually these kind of things are dealt with over a tip off from someone rather than just a very high use of electricity so does make you wonder why they did not double check before raiding.

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Quote from: FloodZone on September 14, 2014, 02:34:44 PM

They took his computers??!! That's his business, quite possibly his livelihood. And they actually charged him with crimes with very little evidence - a bit of marijuana in the house. A lot of states have a low fine if it's found in someone's pockets, but that's it. His lawyer is shit, total utter shit. He should be pressing every legal button available.

Down here the police force is just a money grabber for the city. Take a look at this article, It's pretty common for the cops to do as they feel and seize anything of value.

http://www.breezejmu.org/news/article_765b428a-8ee3-11e3-8e0f-001a4bcf6878.html

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Quote from: Onanula on September 14, 2014, 02:12:34 PM

"yet... the police seized all computers and the physical bitcoins that the Deendant possessed."

So... even though it's not illegal to use electricity, they confiscated his computers, etc.?
Also, what's a physical Bitcoin? Possibly paper wallets? Why would they seize safes or paper if no marijuana was being grown in the house?

earning money without paying taxes is a problem , as you can see for yourself..

they had a reason to enter his house, which did not led to marijuana, but to possibly incriminating acts against states tax laws.

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They took his computers??!! That's his business, quite possibly his livelihood. And they actually charged him with crimes with very little evidence - a bit of marijuana in the house. A lot of states have a low fine if it's found in someone's pockets, but that's it. His lawyer is shit, total utter shit. He should be pressing every legal button available.

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"yet... the police seized all computers and the physical bitcoins that the Deendant possessed."

So... even though it's not illegal to use electricity, they confiscated his computers, etc.?
Also, what's a physical Bitcoin? Possibly paper wallets? Why would they seize safes or paper if no marijuana was being grown in the house?

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all this things makes me step away from mining even more.

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