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Topic: MARGIN - Yes or NO (Read 906 times)

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January 30, 2019, 10:21:19 PM
I would stay away from margin.  You can gain quickly however you can get wiped out hella fast as well.  I like to stick to % of bank roll per trade rules.  You know the boring stuff.  High flying margin trades are way to risky for me. 
Margin is a part of investment, to determine how much you want to get from trading.
Indeed, to get high profits the risks faced are also large, even capital can be used up. But without risk, there will be no profit.
full member
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https://adonx.one
January 30, 2019, 09:25:34 PM
I did margin trading in forex and stocks pair but im failed and loss half of my deposit, and really hard to to get back that money. So im decided to quit from margin trading and spend more times in spot trading of crypto and stocks market.
jr. member
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November 13, 2018, 12:16:55 AM
I am sure this isn’t for everyone, and in fact i don’t recommend it for ANYONE that hasn’t done some serious time learning technical analysis, and understands their own emotions when trading. But, if you’ve got some coin you’re willing to risk  and you’ve got a knack for reading charts. It sure seems like a great way to protect your money, manage your risk, give you the  opportunity make more money.
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November 10, 2018, 11:09:55 PM
I was try to trade margin trading on Bitmex but in 2 times first trade i was loss and the price reached the stop loss, and since that i decided to quit from margin trading because i thinking more difficult to get profit and the risk to be higher. I more focus to do spot trading in crypto market and stocks market
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October 10, 2018, 09:02:03 PM
Never touch margin trading if you beginner in trading because from my experienced in forex margin trading is really difficult to make profit. If you newbies in trading is better to learn first about spot trading, that is crypto trading on the crypto exchange or spot stocks trading. In the many website of broker that provider margin trading, there are disclaimer  that mentioned margin trading is risky and about 79% trader loss money.
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September 01, 2018, 10:15:47 PM
I would stay away from margin.  You can gain quickly however you can get wiped out hella fast as well.  I like to stick to % of bank roll per trade rules.  You know the boring stuff.  High flying margin trades are way to risky for me. 
full member
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September 01, 2018, 09:13:33 PM
Definitely a  margin trading should not be used by beginners. Better for professionals to use possible in the case of a very high profit / risk factor. 4: 1 and more, given the volatility.
sr. member
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September 01, 2018, 06:00:46 AM
If you like seeing your funds either increasing or seeing it at least there without anything affecting it, I would suggest to stay away from marginal trading. The thing is with margin, you will need a lot of experience and you will be better off using other platforms to do normal trading than trying to make use of marginal trading platforms and betting based on leverage. The market is extremely volatile and one thing with margin is if you get too greedy you can actually get scooped out in a second.

Perhaps trading with margin is profitable when you see a stable growth of a coin and trade in a short. That is, it is trading on short time intervals. But, there are cases he himself observed - a very sharp drop in the rate, even on coins from the top 10.
Stable growth is something which could NOT be observed easily by all the traders. But, margin trading for short period of time may work if we are capable of squaring off before any big fluctuations.

This topic should end with this comment. All has been said and all on point. I can't add more but to praise this one. Maybe I can add or say in other words that Margin trading is for the experienced one that can endure the risk of shorting. A very risky indeed as you are more betting than trading.
copper member
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Stake-Primedice
September 01, 2018, 05:27:10 AM
I say " no" im understand if use margin it can make big profit with x10-x50 balance. But it has big risk. Lost all balance easier, you know. But its your choice . No need to listen to anyone Smiley
newbie
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September 01, 2018, 03:06:58 AM
#99
The MARGIN is only for those who like adventure with confidence in their knowledge
I strongly recommend you if not real sure should not join if only based on luck
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August 31, 2018, 06:31:15 PM
#98
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I believe that with the unpredictable volatility of the market at the moment, I think you should not play the margin, you can see that bitcoin prices are constantly fluctuating and the prices of altcoin are falling sharply. . So if you do not translate at this time the risk will be very high, I believe the bitcoin price will also be greatly reduced.
hero member
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August 31, 2018, 08:17:49 AM
#97
I'm in the holding camp.  I've tried to day trade in the past and ended up losing a lot of money.  I'm not denying that people can be successful in trading but it is still very risky. 

Margin trading can give you much higher profits but it comes with a high risk.  With the amount of corruption and insider trading that goes on in this market, trading on margin just gives another tool for whales to use to increase their pockets. 
member
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August 31, 2018, 07:58:49 AM
#96
The margin is an adventure game, We can make a lot of money from margin and also lose everything.
I think maybe invest some money in margin that we can lost and take risks with it
jr. member
Activity: 70
Merit: 2
August 31, 2018, 06:59:52 AM
#95
I think not. Margin is a double-edged sword. It can make you lose a lot

You are absolutely right! A trader should use margins only for entering the wave #3 (but not in the wave #1).

I, for example, will use margin only when ETH goes from 200 to 300 and then come back to 250 (!buy point!). But I would never use margin on 200 because the price can go lower.

jr. member
Activity: 100
Merit: 5
August 31, 2018, 06:45:02 AM
#94
Margin is only for gamblers. Many people know that margin is a lever. But margin is a shark's money making tool. No matter how good you are, one day you will die. Absolutely not involved if you do not want to risk losing your entire property
hero member
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Merit: 517
August 31, 2018, 05:02:48 AM
#93
Margin is a double-edged sword  Grin
Double edged sword indeed. I have never like margin trading for anything as this to me is more like the centerpiece of manipulations when it comes to squeezing out traders. It is more or less a proper gamble as far as I am concerned, and unless you understand the risk, you are able to manage it properly and you do not get too greedy as someone said, then you may do just fine.

However, for those who want to be leveraging 100x and trying to get rich overnight from margin trading, they will get screwed faster before they even know what hit them.
full member
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Merit: 114
August 31, 2018, 04:03:00 AM
#92
Margin is debt. You borrow capital from your broker to buy more assets, in most cases stocks. You want to invest a lot but lack of capital, you analyze that it is certainly profitable to use the margin completely. Anyway, the margin is very dangerous so I say no.
It's never a good idea to borrow money for investment. First of all we should take care of a steady safe income and than when we have some spare money we can invest.

why not ? for me , i think its ok to borrow some money as long as you are confident that you can return it on the right time . earning more income is better than sticking to your normal routine  

. investment isnt also safe and it cannot also give you a steady income because we you know and we all know that cryptos are verry unstable .

lastly , margin trading isnt bad at all and anyone can do it . its up to them if they can handle the stress and the emotions that margin trading can offer .
legendary
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Merit: 1024
August 31, 2018, 03:52:23 AM
#91
Margin is not that bad though as long as the trader is not greedy. Most times if you are good trader and you still make do with a very reasonable leverage level, you should not get caught up in a very bad trade without at least getting out and losing just few.

However, I have never been a fan of margin trading, considering it is more or less a huge gamble which could make you loses so much, and I would rather trade more like investing in the normal way.

But even if you are not greedy, what happens when there is sudden spike when you are doing shorts, or what if price flash crash when you are doing longs? It is very tricky because you always psychologically look at stop losses as percentage of price, but with margin, this stop loss can lose you 5% or 10% easy, just for being there when orders all trigger at spikes and crashes.

No point in margin, just be patient,,, it is truly a gamble. Win big, lose bigger.
What you just said is the main reason why you should never joke with your stop loss if you are threading this path. I always tell those who care to listen that if you are going the leverage way, then you should make sure that as you are entering a position, you are setting your stop loss as well either you are going long or short in the market.

A lot of newbie traders miss this part which is why they tend to lose a lot in the process and once you run out of liquid, you are done. I really do not advise margin trading for those who do not have the knowledge to minimize the risk. Better to trade normal market instead.
newbie
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Merit: 0
August 30, 2018, 09:54:21 AM
#90
Depends on your experience as a trader. When trading with margin your Risk/Rewards-should be near perfect and extremely tight, a normal 3 percent loss without margin is never nice, but if that loss would be leveraged. That's a whole another story. Experienced traders usually get out of the trade at ~<2% loss non-leveraged.

Margin is a good tool if you know what you're doing, just plan your Enters extremely carefully and with a tight Stop-Loss.
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August 30, 2018, 09:43:42 AM
#89
I would not advise newcomers to trade with their shoulders, crypto currencies change very strongly and rapidly, if you do not guess with direction, then you can quickly lose all your funds. If you are trading with your shoulders, be sure to put a stop-loss.
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