Topic: Marinecoin. Sex Lies and Videotape. Truth, scandal or scam. Thoughts? (Read 4327 times)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/define-trolling-579595

google search what trolling is.. being reserved or not has no bearing on it.
you don't like what i said ? well, you don't get to use it as a childish sleazly little method to sick the dogs on me and try and get me banned..
and that is precisely what happens across the net for YEARS now.. it is a method and an attack discrediting what someone says and
to get them fucked over for voicing their OPINION.

you don't like my opinion ? too fucking bad sweet-heart that's life grow the fuck up.

And hey guys maybe stfu with taking about me on every damn topic ? every thought of that ?
(say my name 3 times in a bathroom mirror with the lights off) IF YOU DARE ! muahhahaha

Sorry but i have to point out how god damn stupid a lot of you are here all the time and how you support scammy bs..
maybe don't support scummy garbage pyramid schemes and then defend them like children with their hand caught in the cookie jar.
All i get is this "No you stole cookies" retort, while i stare at you with your hand in the jar lol   ..classic  and sooo childish ... and god damn stupid as fuck !

edit:
Don't cry because i am far smarter than most of you Crypt-idiots.. just suck it up and come to terms with it.. it's happening !

Ok, here is a quick one with little to no looking around

HectorVT.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4624873 

Read that thread entire thread.  Monica and Hector are both Sock puppets of the dev/devs???


HectorVT: Quote


"Monica

I am back mining, do we know who the marinecoin developers are? I am giving the benefit of the doubt because of the ideas they have, if this goes mainstream which no one knows what can go mainstream these days (PSY) Smiley

 MTC seems to have a potential, honestly people have been mining alts like it is a sport wasting electricity feeding the scammers, I have a gut feeling this is not one of them."




And then read his posts, going slowly from questioning Marine coin, ect to slowly revealing himself to be the developer.  The last 20-30 posts of his are as the developer.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4823824


HectorVT:   Quote

I am the developer of marinecoin, it is different concept based on  initial mutual trust during inception and advanced mathematical formulas that I don't even totally understand but the mathematicians are contracted to work for us.  we like to call it pre-allocation, do you really think as the World's first and one only digital nation that there will ever be, I will dump the pre-allocated coins to destroy the system and betray its adapters who got involved in it,a system that I have worked so hard to create, no one even comes close to us in anyway sooner or later someone will notice and then it will be too late for everyone who has ignored it.


www.marinecoin.org

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We didn't post these links because well we were there, and saw the threads being created everytime the last one fell off the 1st of second page.


I am personally glad that has ended.  It was one of the steps towards getting away from the bad taste it was putting in everyone's mouth about the coin.


I myself went from quite interested in the coin, to reading through the first copy of their website, which seemed almost alien/heavy cultish, and thinking WTF.  Then got into a few scrambles with the sock puppets.  To watching thousands (Millions???) join when DOGE came around, to watching all the coins that had a community that I was behind falling to the wayside in the name of multipools and auto-trades.  Devs that were very active in the community suddenly going missing/getting bored???  My 2 main coins BTC and LTC are sputtering a bit, and Scrypt AISC's coming.

And I just realized this silly coin, that should have died out a long time ago, because of the drama/hatred/ ect is still kicking around, and the dev if still trying to fight an uphill battle even though the a lot of the devs that had it easy left already.  I am not going to lie and say I am sold, or that I am thinking of investing yet.  But it's got my curiosity again.  

here's something I found interesting

Haha, most of people talking about MTC seems to be just new members with no (or low) activity. When you look at their posts, they only take part to MTC thread and seems to know a lot about this. Sounds really weird, same person maybe....

MTC=0.97 USD ? Fiscal Policy ? I laugh so hard I piss myself.


 - MTC did actually hit .95 cents last week


In all the other posts I don't really seem any similiarites to personality types, just similar interests from people that hadn't existed on this forum, and assumably will not return.  Not completely sure why I did.  Curiosity I suppose.

  But this is a brief scan of all the posts ive made.  I'll take a better look later.  If there is anything tangible in this accusation to the dev please note it.

 

I just searched the developers oldest post to find this but probably not the thread you are looking for but a simple search came up with these posts.

Maybe this person? https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/monica87-223750
Or this person https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hectorvt-224308
Or this one https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/edward75-224760

Or maybe these threads https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/isracoin-is-the-same-dumb-than-marinecoin-563559
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5609150

Can someone please post or recall this sock puppet thread?  Everyone's talking about it but nobody has posted it.

  Yip yip yip yip yip hyena ask him yourself

Missed this in the first paragraph.
   I BOUGHT MARINECOINS - just to spite all you fucks

  'Enter the hyena kingMissed this in the first paragraph.
   I BOUGHT MARINECOINS - just to spite all you fucks

  'Enter the hyena king''

So what is the dev phone number? 

 Yeh, after talking personally with the developer on the phone for over an hour asking every possible question i could muster, including ethnicity, family background, programming knowledge, work history etc etc etc, he answered every question without holding back or blinking for a lie.
    I have been charged in this thread with 'mutual masturbation', been accused of being a liar, a shill account, a sock puppet; not contacting the dev directly instead of starting this thread..
   Now understand this was my first fucking thread.  Didnt even start a new coin, was torn to shreds by over 90% of posts.  With allegations and lies that have 0% to back with.
     When the dev says 'you fools' in his slightly broken english, all you fucking hyenas start yipping and barking against one man standing against..  oh i dunno, someone else count how many against or posts making unproven allegations absolutely no different then his unproven claims of a possible fuckin utopia??
   Yeh you fuckin hyenas aint welcome, because yes you are fools and morons, probably never dumped more then a 1000 bux on a coin anyways and are worthless in the grand scheme of anything unified and great.  You hyenas are the reason no coin be it honest or good or evil and shitcoin, will pump and dump and destroy any dream while cackling at the next Visionary so you can make your few hundred bux instead of.working a real.job.
    This thread pisses me off and you cackling hyenas make me sick
  
  

If for example you really wanted to centralize a cryptocurrency, you could do so by creating a fee system that feeds into a central fund that is secured by Multi-sig by a number of trusted people within the community, you wouldn't need a 97.5% premine held by one person. In order to spend from such a fund you would need the approval of a majority of people who have consistently shown over time their determination to help others as well as alleviate trust issues and protect against the possibility that it could be stolen from outside sources.

How come something like that wasn't implemented in the first place? People shouldn't NEED to trust one single person with their money and the more I hear from the developer the less I trust him.

Three devs and several weeks to compile a Mac wallet? That is some funny shit!!! You only had to compile it...it's not like you had to build it from scratch!!

As you've brought up the subject of curing HIV/AIDS/Cancer, please can you advise how you're going to go about this? Sorry, but achieving this through your hash power isn't a good enough answer. People in here and more importantly, the followers you hope to indoctrinate, might appreciate some kind of specifics on the matter.

You mention fixing issues that have arisen yet NOTHING has been updated on your official GitHub account for a month...? No doubt you don't need to publish updated code because it's against your 'cloak and dagger' principles and your minions are forbidden from compiling their own wallets. No doubt a banishment to the fiery bowels of land shalt await such blasphemy.

Come on dude, your release is nothing but 'smoke and mirrors' and you've got a hell of a lot of explaining and convincing to do to live up to the promises you pledged. So far I see nothing other than a pump and dump scam and one that's failing miserably.

%97 premine why would Marinecoin, no one will ever have more MTC than Marinecoin as an Organisation, sorry but you missed the whole point there,

system is based on mutual trust,  takeaway coins from people you fool, they are there to protect people from scammers like you to make the eco-system financially the most powerful, the current bitcoin litecoin model is not going anywhere, not suitable for mass adaption.

We are here to protect merchants and everyday users for fraud, not reversing transaction, you have no idea what you are talking about.

who is selectively scamming? you missed the whole point again compensating for forks everyone gets what they have on all forks from the premine paid on the other fork, its like having insurance, one fork is selected to bring order and unity what kind of protection you have for that on your coin's code, thought so???

plus its open source you can contribute and have custom wallets open if you wish its not all up to core development.

I am not a NASA scientist and don't claim to be the best programmer, but I know what I am doing. And I am sure of it. we hired 3 different professional programmers for the mavericks version of QT which is hard to do everyone knows that to save time, we hired people who were full time programmers in software development firms, we waited weeks for the Mavericks wallet, and waited. No one managed to deliver, guess who finally delivered.

if you are against Marinecoin, you are against the research for cancer research and HIV/AIDS, that simply you are actively de-promoting important resources that can be put to one of the most essential issues, not donations but actual solving of Mathematical problems and simulations by GPUs. What kind of human does that, you should not consider yourself human. don't support humanity OK?

I am happy with my current version Marinecoin Wallet and the diff retargeting rate, couple of times we got hit by 2.5 GH recovered pretty well, I have couple of sample wallets based on latest source code would not change the current one unless I have to, this one works perfectly the best wallet I have seen so far, never crashes, always syncs promptly, no exchange or pool operator ever complained, no funds ever got stuck or lost due to malfunction. and I did not get lucky I worked on it to make it so, if anyone can find a problem I will fix it, or if there is something that is groundbreaking I will change it to that, I don't follow the Litecoin path on updates, I do my own updates and study other coins codes to learn to apply to my code to keep up with what is actually in it. changing wallets is also very complicated and risky no matter who executes it, should not be done frequently unless it is an emergency we are 4 months into the project I think the wallet is fine compared to the timeframe and what it is being used for, which is storing data on the wallet.dat file and mining and transfer related essential activities.

I think you should get yourself  checked, I would say you have serious issues in your life saying things like this against a project like Marinecoin.

@Crestington - well said!

@ Vivisector - I can see you gradually succumbing to the will of the Marinecoin dev. Please, please don't do it!!

The Marinecoin developer is somewhat of a wordsmith and he hides his lack of technical ability behind some very convincing and very well thought out responses. As I've said before, if the dev was so great at programming, his currency wouldn't be running on an antiquated version of Litecoin and wouldn't be suffering from hash rate spikes. Such a talented individual would have created a brilliant difficulty retargeting mechanism to get around these issues. He's already confessed to buying hash power to recover the blockchain, which is an approach that completely contradicts his boasts of greatness.

I'd like to know if there is anybody out there who would genuinely mine Marinecoin? The meagre scraps (2.54%) left on the blockchain are hardly worth bothering with as it will take approx 963 years to mine them  . Instamining 97%+ has only created a rod for the back of the dev because it will draw in many opportunist attackers who would prefer to waste their electricity gaining the satisfaction of bringing Marinecoin down because it's sure as hell not worth trying to support it.

The dev also talks of the ability to manipulate market prices. It's pretty clear this has been happening for a while but to hear it straight from him should ring alarm bells for anybody who is considering involvement with this coin.

Marinecoin not only epitomizes everything that is wrong with altcoins but it adds a unique layer of sinisterness and subversion. It doesn't deserve to be traded on any markets in any way, shape or form and how it got listed on these is a complete fucking mystery to my way of thinking. Anybody who buys this coin or buys into its philosophy needs a mental evaluation. Pronto.

I am neither for nor against the Marinecoin project itself and am more in favor of a large premine if used correctly. You talk about the code for all these new coins just being a few extra lines here or there bit Marinecoin code is nothing more than a clone itself with a few lines changed. It doesn't support merchant adoption because as you said, you can simply reverse transactions at any time and selectively scam people if you wanted to and the attitude shown and lack of transparency would support that possibility. The code also doesn't take into account blockchain size over many years and if any of the premine is used, there is nothing to replace it and will dilute all shares. There is no real step by step plan on how these things are to be achieved either so all I really have to say is....

Buy this if you choose but the developer has the ability to steal your coins at any given moment so you may wake up one day with no coins.

+1 to Vivisector, and even to Marine4u.

I was pleasantly surprised by the almost sane tone of M4U's last post, more of that would make it much easier to take Marinecoin seriously.

Less calling people fools, sock-puppetry and claims of being the last Tsar of Russia, please.

I think that has to be the best post I have ever seen from the dev. 

More posts with information and knowledge behind them, and less with attacking back and calling everyone idiots may just sway me.  I still think the coin is a tad on the crazy side.  But I am really beginning to become annoyed with the 100 clones a day being made by devs that can't even think their way out of a paper bag.  Black coin becomes popular.  Oh a coin with every other color in the spectrum need to be made.  Or fruits, animals, ect.   If anything, at least you can say this coin is different.

As for how the dev could possibly cure cancer/aids ect.  There are 2 coins actively working on those 2 goals right now.  Curecoin and Gridcoin.  Both are tying themselves to the BOINC and @home projects, and are giving block rewards based on how much hashrate is being thrown towards those 2.  I am guessing Marinecoin would be trying to follow suite, and tie themselves to one of these 2 projects.   

Forget KGW if you mean that that is dangerous territory, that is asking for trouble, trouble you can never get out. you can easily kill coins with KGW.
24h retarget Marinecoin needs constant hash power at great amounts at great cost to the attacker to change the diff to dangerous levels, also who will want to mess with a pre-mine coin, maybe we can't manipulate price increase but we can surely manipulate temporary price decrease until we get the coins back at the attackers further loss to make sure they stay away, there will be other protection against attacks I will not discuss at this moment which will prove valuable and set Marinecoin apart from other coins.

I am not short handed on coding wise in anyway let me tell you that, I have my own unique methods of programming when its time to code and I am resourceful, have completed my own custom programming projects from scratch in the past, I also think I did a decent job programming the Mobile Wallet by myself without any outside help in a few days, compared to Satoshi's wallet which is mostly served on a silver platter is walk in the park mostly updating bugs etc., I having been doing decent job updating and compiling all wallets myself thus far, taking care of security concerns etc, plus additional funding is available to do any custom coding that requires a team effort when necessary, that being said,

we have been attacked countless times, we are pre-mine the shadow of the pre-mine always makes the attackers think twice, the heavy premine gives you the ability to hard-reset not hard-fork but hard reset the network to the desired fork at will if you choose to do so by compensating everyone including the losses of the exchange providers, or individuals miners who suffered losses at the other fork there is no limit what you can do,

everyone will be insured against fraud, all merchants and users just like the way Paypal issues refunds against fraud, Marinecoin is able to do the same. Pre-mine makes sense to me to the future goals which will give advantage for Marinecoin over the competition which do not have and will never have this capability. The most important thing is trust, you fools deposit all your coins to exchanges well the past two weeks we got two exchanges who took away your coins including Marinecoins, well Marinecoin is safer than any exchange because our most valuable asset will be proving Marinecoin as a trusted platform to invest as time goes by and that alone will add value to MTC next to its competition, to be known for that trait of trustworthiness. 

If you want to get something about this post is the miners are not miners prices dictates miners actions, they are puppets of the exchange rates, the real miners are the merchants, how the merchants will mine without equipment you ask? well then you will really see what the pre-mine is for. so follow Marinecoin.

Marinecoin just sucessfully bailed out all withheld MTC by cryptorush by a  manoeuvre no-one even realised, which was enough to cast a shadow on the MTC exchanges for months by using the ability of the pre-mine we managed to get them back at minimal cost but all the investments are safe now,

the problem with technological advancement is there is no technological advancement, there can not be much to sending 1 coin to an other person similar to the advancement of bank accounts the past few decades, it is very simple but people the real scammers ran out of ideas how to scam so now they BS the novice by saying TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENT yeah right, the real scammers are the ones who claim to have technological advancement with couple of lines of extra C++ code which a 16 year old can easily produce as a term project at high school, either they are trying to find a way to make money with their outdated GPUs by complicating things further with additional layers of algorithms under the name of technological advancement and hyping and hoping to make money only GPUs will be able to mine with new shitcoins trying to doge the Scrypt Asic revolution which will take the serious scrypt coins to corporate level, or by coming up with non-mineable coins skipping the mining part which is essential altogether, the fools who stick with amateur GPU mining will stay amateur,

The interview didn't really say any more than what you have already said but it doesn't really answer my questions.

Also aside from the large premine and grand ideas, how is Marinecoin any different from other coins? How do you propose to tackle scalability within the blockchain and prevent attacks? From a coding point, how are you going cure aids with the blockchain?