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R9s
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November 30, 2018, 05:50:25 AM
#23
The price manipulation of the cryptocurrency market is very serious, because when you have enough encryption, you can easily determine the number of encrypted transactions and their prices!
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November 30, 2018, 05:39:05 AM
#22
In fact, more than 80% of investors have suffered losses this year, and those who are profitable are these price controllers! But manipulating bitcoin is very difficult because it is very expensive!
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November 30, 2018, 05:36:07 AM
#21
I guess that the cryptocurrency market is controlled by large players who make huge profits with the help of the well-known technology "pump and dump". True, unlike the "pumps and dumps" carried out in small altcoins, here the strategies are much more stretched both in time and in the amount of money invested. Obviously, the cryptocurrency market expects many positive innovations in the near future, that will make the price of the BTC grow to new ATHs. However, the price of Bitcoin was artificially lowered in order to take possession of the money of small investors, buy on the bottoms as many coins as possible and then carry out a powerful pump.
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November 30, 2018, 03:56:44 AM
#20
This is common across industries. Human nature makes it so that people follow hype and fomo in. Look at stock prices or forex. If you're trading then being able to spot this and ride with it will help you a lot.

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November 30, 2018, 03:52:35 AM
#19
the fact that altcoins are getting dumped in the past couple of weeks or possibly months has nothing to do with market manipulation. it is the natural course that a pumped altcoin should take as the money exits to get the profit out of them since nobody has any real faith in their future.s
Exactly, majority of altcoins are just for pump-and-dump scheme and even projects cannot control it because they're part of the problem and the biggest profits goes to them.

the market manipulation of altcoins was mainly happening last year when they were getting pumped a lot and rose to stupidly unrealistic price levels and you were happy thinking they are being adopted for real! that was a fake pump aka manipulation not this dump that is the natural thing to follow that up.
Yeah, still remember that specially in December. There are coins you rose to dramatic levels and then a lot FOMO'ed thinking this is real. But since we're in the bull market back then, no one noticed and enjoying the ride. But as soon as the market goes on bearish trend, those pump-and-dump coins or manipulation or sorts are very evident.
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November 30, 2018, 02:20:24 AM
#19
I would like the market to get rid of the manipulators as we are ordinary investors because of them we suffer very much and with our money

Who are the manipulators, according to you?
Manipulators are mostly those big whales who holds a lot of bitcoin, they can drive the value of bitcoin down by initiating a huge sell off and that will create panic sells in market, they then buy back in the deep.
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November 30, 2018, 02:46:46 AM
#18
the fact that altcoins are getting dumped in the past couple of weeks or possibly months has nothing to do with market manipulation. it is the natural course that a pumped altcoin should take as the money exits to get the profit out of them since nobody has any real faith in their future.s

the market manipulation of altcoins was mainly happening last year when they were getting pumped a lot and rose to stupidly unrealistic price levels and you were happy thinking they are being adopted for real! that was a fake pump aka manipulation not this dump that is the natural thing to follow that up.
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November 30, 2018, 01:57:07 AM
#17
Very rich and smart people manipulate the market. They calculate all the details and lower or raise the price as they want. We can't affect it in any way. Those who have the lion's share of cryptocurrencies in their hands will rule the ball.
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November 30, 2018, 01:41:01 AM
#17
I just came across a paper written by John Griffin and Amin Shams which states that the bitcoin price was being stabilized because of a coordinated price manipulation with tether.
I respect empirical studies but I don't want to believe that. Many have become millionaires because of their investments in bitcoin and other cryptos, which is what attracted even more investors as these new currencies were being adopted by many to conduct business.
I am still a bit puzzled by the results of the study.

On the wrong turning of event. Bitcoin plummeted into the dipping side. Some became millionaires and billionaires due to last year bull run but there are also some lose huge funds hoping that it will increase more than that. Studies can be wrong sometime.
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November 30, 2018, 01:32:48 AM
#16
When huge amount of money is at stake what do you expect,manipulation as been the order of the day in crypto,some people somewhere trying to see how far they can GI with crypto.
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November 29, 2018, 09:58:53 PM
#15
Any investments and businesses can be manipulated as long as you have a huge source of financial resources at your disposal therefore manipulation in crypto market movements is possible and normal as it also involved money. Without the investments without the money a certain investment will be nothing so be used to the manipulation and just focus on how we could ride with them with a perfect timing.
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November 29, 2018, 09:36:37 PM
#14
I just came across a paper written by John Griffin and Amin Shams which states that the bitcoin price was being stabilized because of a coordinated price manipulation with tether.
I respect empirical studies but I don't want to believe that. Many have become millionaires because of their investments in bitcoin and other cryptos, which is what attracted even more investors as these new currencies were being adopted by many to conduct business.
I am still a bit puzzled by the results of the study.

I can't see any reason how bitcoin can be manipulated other than buying it by the whales in the market. Cryptocurrencies mainly increase their market value through listing on an exchange which resulting to more investors investing it.
newbie
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November 29, 2018, 07:28:00 PM
#13
I would like the market to get rid of the manipulators as we are ordinary investors because of them we suffer very much and with our money

Who are the manipulators, according to you?
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November 29, 2018, 07:20:37 PM
#12
Well that's the sad reality.

It has been said many times about the market is being manipulated by few whales. They drive the price down so they can manipulate it and get a good entry point to have those coins at the best price that they can. And as they enter, when the market starts to get into that point of increasing period, you'll notice them buy.
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November 29, 2018, 07:17:13 PM
#11
Just to let you know in any industry there will always be manipulation that will happen may it be in news,  information, people or even prices and cryptocurrency is not exempt from it as it is being run like the stocks or forex which to has price manipulation in one way or another and you should just start to accept it and adapt to it.

  Price manipulation has been an issue in Crypto Market Trading before, look back on some posted news on social media you find some. Anyway, the recent market massive sell off affects the market price value nose dive to a very low level, not to mention the negative news posted in social media, plus the issue on Regulation by government whom very critical on the Crypto Currency Digital Transaction to be adopted on the main stream market transaction, these really contribute to the low confidence level by the crypto market investors resulting to the massive sell off. Market is very Volatile.

We already know for a fact that big institutions are the ones behind the price manipulation, but we remain passive and reject anything that does not depend on them. Blame the problem on yourself.
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November 29, 2018, 07:13:17 PM
#10
I would like the market to get rid of the manipulators as we are ordinary investors because of them we suffer very much and with our money
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November 29, 2018, 07:10:51 PM
#9
Just to let you know in any industry there will always be manipulation that will happen may it be in news,  information, people or even prices and cryptocurrency is not exempt from it as it is being run like the stocks or forex which to has price manipulation in one way or another and you should just start to accept it and adapt to it.

  Price manipulation has been an issue in Crypto Market Trading before, look back on some posted news on social media you find some. Anyway, the recent market massive sell off affects the market price value nose dive to a very low level, not to mention the negative news posted in social media, plus the issue on Regulation by government whom very critical on the Crypto Currency Digital Transaction to be adopted on the main stream market transaction, these really contribute to the low confidence level by the crypto market investors resulting to the massive sell off. Market is very Volatile.
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November 29, 2018, 07:09:42 PM
#8
Just to let you know in any industry there will always be manipulation that will happen may it be in news,  information, people or even prices and cryptocurrency is not exempt from it as it is being run like the stocks or forex which to has price manipulation in one way or another and you should just start to accept it and adapt to it.

Completely true, when money and human are involved.
Manipulation is part of the game, no matter how hard you try to refuse it you can not change the fact that everything gets manipulated by someone/group.
and remember, the one who decided the number of everything is human.
as long as it has a value, it can go up or down depend on the setter themself.
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November 29, 2018, 07:07:50 PM
#7
I never subscribed to conspiracy theories about Bitcoin and peoole in dark suits manioulating the entire system.
Bitcoin is an asset which has a speculative value.

Your topic is directly related to bitcoin, you might want to move it over to Bitcoin discussion
because the fluktuatif and speculative value that's why many community has speculative price for bitcoinin future.
they created theory and conspiracy about cryptocurrency
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November 29, 2018, 07:01:06 PM
#6
Just to let you know in any industry there will always be manipulation that will happen may it be in news,  information, people or even prices and cryptocurrency is not exempt from it as it is being run like the stocks or forex which to has price manipulation in one way or another and you should just start to accept it and adapt to it.
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