Topic: Marketplace trust - page 7. (Read 82947 times)

I would like this a lot more if Default settings were
Trust list == satoshi
Trust depth == 0

Anything else implements a bias from the board administration.  If the board moderators and who they trust deserve the level of trust that Default would give them, it should be obvious to the user, not forced on them.

If you MUST put a real person on the default trust list why not use someone who is truly trusted by the community like John (John K.)?

I added a trust system to the marketplace sections. When you're logged in, you'll now see something like this next to Marketplace posts:

The first number is the user's trust score calculated based on how consistently they've received positive feedback. Probably no one will get a score above 0 until the system has been around for at least a month. The second number is the number of reported scams. The third number increases with the number of positive reports, as does the fourth number in parenthesis, though the fourth number is more resistant to abuse. This text changes color depending on the score. Users with a negative score (attainable through scamming) get a red warning attached to their posts.

These scores are taken from your trust network. They are not global scores. You can edit your trust network here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust
If your trust depth is set to 2 (the default), you will trust feedback by people you trust, people they trust, and people they trust. I might change the default in the future; we'll see how this works. Your trust list is public.

On feedback pages, you can leave trade feedback. There are no rules for this, but here are some guidelines:
- List all of the trades that you do with people (or at least the major ones). This is not like #bitcoin-otc where you give people just one score.
- Do not rate people based on the quality of their posts.
- Older ratings count for more, so don't delete old ratings if you can avoid it.
- "Risked BTC" is how much money you could have lost if the person you're rating had turned out to be a scammer. Or, if they are a scammer, it's how much you lost. Use the BTC value at the time of reporting.
- It's OK to post a rating about the person in general, not tied to a specific trade.
- If you want to make a rating stronger, increase "Risked BTC". 50 extra risked BTC is equivalent to an additional rating.

If your trust list is totally empty, you trust "DefaultTrust", which includes some trustworthy people that I'll select. But if you add anyone to your trust list, even if they don't trust anyone, DefaultTrust will no longer be considered part of your trust list.

In the near future I'll add these same ratings to PMs.

Tell me if you see any bugs. I didn't test this much yet.

Well then fuck you.    

I'm not saying ideas can't be colorfully expressed using profanity.  I was saying people that use profanity constantly as part of their everyday language tend to be of lower intelligence.

It's much easier to say "fuck" than think of a proper adjective or adverb.  Weak minds take the easiest path.

BACK ON TOPIC:  Does a trust rating risk of 50btc or more still count as an additional rating?  Might want to lower that number now...

I thoroughly disagree. Just throwing in a random f-bomb or some other such profanity every other word for the hell of it is usually unnecessary and puerile, but a well placed 'fuck' or even some other extreme expletives can be a sign of true comedic genius. People can get very inventive with their cursing. George Carlin, for example, who was a master of both comedy and the English language, in my opinion.

Yes. I have seen the feedback system being abused. And exactly my point.
People who are new to this domain tend to trust and follow people on this forum. Such a system should be backed by some check to maintain integrity of the system. Or atleast in the instructions, make people aware or warn them that the trust system should be taken with a pinch of salt. 

Good idea. But won't it be misused as well ? Will there is a proof for the Trust + and Trust - that someone gets.
I get this is a good system. Just want to be sure that it is scam proof.
I mean, I will blindly trust someone who has some good + ratings but then it should be legit. 

Completely agreed - hence why there is sooo much of this going on at this time

Good idea. But won't it be misused as well ? Will there is a proof for the Trust + and Trust - that someone gets.
I get this is a good system. Just want to be sure that it is scam proof.
I mean, I will blindly trust someone who has some good + ratings but then it should be legit. 

Good idea. But won't it be misused as well ? Will there is a proof for the Trust + and Trust - that someone gets.
I get this is a good system. Just want to be sure that it is scam proof.
I mean, I will blindly trust someone who has some good + ratings but then it should be legit. 

That would explain why lower intelligence people flock to those jobs...

Profanity is a sign of a weak mind.

Then send it as a PM. If you really are sincere about it, after all, you wouldn't need to post it.

Thanks for the calm answers.

@Moderator: When a Newbie writes 'thanks' on this forum she sometimes is sincere about it and does not post it as spam with the aim to increase her posts! 

I agree that instead of naivity I better had chosen the word innocence. Thanks for the correction.

Had you stayed a newbie for 7 years you would have been able to stay easily clear from all the corrupting political intrueges that are going on among top-legies.

Perhaps you still have been able to stay 'clean'. That would deserve you sincere congratuations.

However money and power expose people's ugliest nature. Have you not pushed others down in order to stay on a top spot of the hill?

One who seeks out truth from naivety is likely to have a lack of experience, wisdom, and/or judgement.

Not sure what the Legendary status has to do with any of this, I could have been on this forum for 7 years and be a newbie... but knowledge, likely escaping you, is needed to understand this.

One needs not to be a Legendary to speak truth. In fact you'll probably find more truth with unspoiled naive newbies than with legies who are knee deep stuck in political intregues to protect their status.

Big words coming from an account 1 day old and from someone who does not even know what DT1 and DT2 means.
 

Oh, the whole trust system here is abused to the bone. Expose a scammer with power and he will give you red trust. Expose more scammers and you'll be considered by others as a scammer yourself. There is absolutely no objectivity at all in the trust system here.

What does DT1 and DT2 mean?