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sr. member
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September 05, 2016, 11:43:24 AM
has everyone noted that the default trusted members mostly only abuse their trust.Huh
legendary
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August 26, 2016, 02:23:45 PM
I think trust trading to get on DT is getting out of hand now.

We got a lot of people with green trust who literally did a 20$ trade once.

I would just need like 100-200$ to get +10-100 green.

Scammers have it quite easy nowadays.
legendary
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In Memory of Zepher
August 24, 2016, 01:12:22 PM
Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here, but isn't that exactly what he should do: add the user he trusts to his trust network so that that user's ratings are seen as trusted?  The default trust settings are only supposed to be there as a placeholder until you actually have someone you trust or don't trust.
If he specifically trusts someone and would like to add them to his network, of course. I'm not trying to discourage him from adding people to his trust list or altering his trust network.
From his question, I assumed he was talking about making other users' trust ratings show by default, which is not possible if he is not a member of DT1.
Not that I am trying to boost my trust or anything; but in a perfect world should I make a change that would show this rating to others?
legendary
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August 24, 2016, 12:28:04 PM
Not that I am trying to boost my trust or anything; but in a perfect world should I make a change that would show this rating to others?  I am not going to do this because I would like to wait until I get an honest review from someone everyone trusts, if that happens; I am just learning more how the system works.
You can't do anything. In order for a trust rating to be seen by default the user that left it must be added to the DefaultTrust network. This happens by someone on DT1 adding this user to their trust list, therefore putting them in DT2.
If you were to do the same and add a user to your trust list, any trust ratings left by the user would be seen as default to you - no one else.

Don't try to force trust; it isn't seen kindly around here.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here, but isn't that exactly what he should do: add the user he trusts to his trust network so that that user's ratings are seen as trusted?  The default trust settings are only supposed to be there as a placeholder until you actually have someone you trust or don't trust.
legendary
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In Memory of Zepher
August 24, 2016, 09:02:17 AM
Not that I am trying to boost my trust or anything; but in a perfect world should I make a change that would show this rating to others?  I am not going to do this because I would like to wait until I get an honest review from someone everyone trusts, if that happens; I am just learning more how the system works.
You can't do anything. In order for a trust rating to be seen by default the user that left it must be added to the DefaultTrust network. This happens by someone on DT1 adding this user to their trust list, therefore putting them in DT2.
If you were to do the same and add a user to your trust list, any trust ratings left by the user would be seen as default to you - no one else.

Don't try to force trust; it isn't seen kindly around here.
sr. member
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August 24, 2016, 08:21:53 AM
I hjave been looking for about 2 hours for the answer to this question but can not find it.  I see my trust as green but when I was showing a buddy how to set up an account on the forum the other day, I showed him me and I was seen as black to him.  Please explain how that works.  I really do not care, I am just curious.  Thank you in advance.

Thats because the way you did setup your trustlist.

More specifically, you have someone on your trust list who gave you positive feedback and that person is not on your buddy's list.  Only feedback from people on your list shows up by "default" and influences the color you see in the marketplace sections.
Additional I can say, that even you not modified your list, you already have  over 210 person on your list by default(DT1+DT2),
which are "hidden" under user "DefaultTrust".
Not that I am trying to boost my trust or anything; but in a perfect world should I make a change that would show this rating to others?  I am not going to do this because I would like to wait until I get an honest review from someone everyone trusts, if that happens; I am just learning more how the system works.


you are just accuse for Loans for trust building and openly asks for it. and that is a mistake in building a trust here in the forum. it is gain by doing kindness acts here without expecting a trust feedback to other user.
and i think it is not important for just lending in a loan business. Just wait to other user to give you the trust and always keep good service.
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
August 24, 2016, 08:00:25 AM
I hjave been looking for about 2 hours for the answer to this question but can not find it.  I see my trust as green but when I was showing a buddy how to set up an account on the forum the other day, I showed him me and I was seen as black to him.  Please explain how that works.  I really do not care, I am just curious.  Thank you in advance.

Thats because the way you did setup your trustlist.

More specifically, you have someone on your trust list who gave you positive feedback and that person is not on your buddy's list.  Only feedback from people on your list shows up by "default" and influences the color you see in the marketplace sections.
Additional I can say, that even you not modified your list, you already have  over 210 person on your list by default(DT1+DT2),
which are "hidden" under user "DefaultTrust".
Not that I am trying to boost my trust or anything; but in a perfect world should I make a change that would show this rating to others?  I am not going to do this because I would like to wait until I get an honest review from someone everyone trusts, if that happens; I am just learning more how the system works.
legendary
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August 24, 2016, 07:36:09 AM
I hjave been looking for about 2 hours for the answer to this question but can not find it.  I see my trust as green but when I was showing a buddy how to set up an account on the forum the other day, I showed him me and I was seen as black to him.  Please explain how that works.  I really do not care, I am just curious.  Thank you in advance.

Thats because the way you did setup your trustlist.

More specifically, you have someone on your trust list who gave you positive feedback and that person is not on your buddy's list.  Only feedback from people on your list shows up by "default" and influences the color you see in the marketplace sections.
Additional I can say, that even you not modified your list, you already have  over 210 person on your list by default(DT1+DT2),
which are "hidden" under user "DefaultTrust".
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1081
I may write code in exchange for bitcoins.
August 23, 2016, 12:55:18 PM
I hjave been looking for about 2 hours for the answer to this question but can not find it.  I see my trust as green but when I was showing a buddy how to set up an account on the forum the other day, I showed him me and I was seen as black to him.  Please explain how that works.  I really do not care, I am just curious.  Thank you in advance.

Thats because the way you did setup your trustlist.

More specifically, you have someone on your trust list who gave you positive feedback and that person is not on your buddy's list.  Only feedback from people on your list shows up by "default" and influences the color you see in the marketplace sections.
legendary
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August 22, 2016, 06:27:21 PM
I hjave been looking for about 2 hours for the answer to this question but can not find it.  I see my trust as green but when I was showing a buddy how to set up an account on the forum the other day, I showed him me and I was seen as black to him.  Please explain how that works.  I really do not care, I am just curious.  Thank you in advance.

Thats because the way you did setup your trustlist.
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
August 22, 2016, 05:30:39 PM
I hjave been looking for about 2 hours for the answer to this question but can not find it.  I see my trust as green but when I was showing a buddy how to set up an account on the forum the other day, I showed him me and I was seen as black to him.  Please explain how that works.  I really do not care, I am just curious.  Thank you in advance.
hero member
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August 20, 2016, 10:45:32 AM
This... is awesome.  I have found it easier to navigate through certain posts that defame other members where they are the ones at fault.  Thanks.

Hi, do you mean the navigation in terms of what friend ..?? . I don't see that here give something you mean. So try read beforehand, if indeed you want to comment on those who give something link and you argue so then you could do a quote
newbie
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August 14, 2016, 03:45:13 AM
This... is awesome.  I have found it easier to navigate through certain posts that defame other members where they are the ones at fault.  Thanks.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
July 28, 2016, 04:58:21 PM
Dear sir,

I want to know, is the all user can give the trust to all member?
Example, if I still junior member, can I make trust to higher level than me like legendary member?
Can I give trust frequently to one user?

AFAIK, yes you can give trust ratings to any member even Satoshi, theymos or any default trust member. For your second question, you can give multiple ratings to a member but I'm not sure if it does have a timer before you can proceed in adding a new rating.

There are some examples of ratings being removed when they were just spam.  For example, if some angry user leaves the same rating over and over again too many times on a trust page, the duplicates can be removed because it's just unnecessary clutter and spam.  I think these are the only examples of the trust system being "moderated".

But most of the time, big scam busters like Vod or Cryptodevil just leave it. It's a sign of them doing something right. Or maybe because after a day they'll get a hundred more. Don't know.
legendary
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July 27, 2016, 04:43:13 PM
Dear sir,

I want to know, is the all user can give the trust to all member?
Example, if I still junior member, can I make trust to higher level than me like legendary member?
Can I give trust frequently to one user?

AFAIK, yes you can give trust ratings to any member even Satoshi, theymos or any default trust member. For your second question, you can give multiple ratings to a member but I'm not sure if it does have a timer before you can proceed in adding a new rating.

There are some examples of ratings being removed when they were just spam.  For example, if some angry user leaves the same rating over and over again too many times on a trust page, the duplicates can be removed because it's just unnecessary clutter and spam.  I think these are the only examples of the trust system being "moderated".
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1049
July 26, 2016, 03:58:16 AM
Dear sir,

I want to know, is the all user can give the trust to all member?
Example, if I still junior member, can I make trust to higher level than me like legendary member?
Can I give trust frequently to one user?

AFAIK, yes you can give trust ratings to any member even Satoshi, theymos or any default trust member. For your second question, you can give multiple ratings to a member but I'm not sure if it does have a timer before you can proceed in adding a new rating.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
July 26, 2016, 03:28:42 AM
Dear sir,

I want to know, is the all user can give the trust to all member?
Example, if I still junior member, can I make trust to higher level than me like legendary member?
Can I give trust frequently to one user?
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1081
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July 04, 2016, 09:34:26 PM
i have never scammed anybody on this forum, yet i have -16 for selling something against tearms of sales
even though i have 19 positive trust ratings, i have 4 negatives that gave me -16

people, i know im not doing something ideal, but im not a scammer, i have always treated my clients with utmost respect, as they can all confirm

with this post i personally ask Vod, mexxer-2, ibminer and Lutpin, to remove my trust rating, as it is simply not fair, have replaced every not working key my client had problems with, and the price on those is so low that you cant hold me by the same standards as when you buy a windows key for 199$ from the store

there are numerous forum members doing actuall scamming, i was scammed by forum user lind82 for 160$ 2 days ago, and he had -2 trust atm, i had -16

im not asking for the world here, but after being a member for some time i think i proved im not a scammer, the only thing your trust rating is doing is turning down my (potential) clients and sending them to other sellers, who are doing the same thing im doing

not to say i know a seller (i wont be naming him ofc) on the forum that is here a bit longer then me and has +1 trust rating, compared to my -16, and he is doing the SAME THING

please dont be hypocritical and let me do my work in piece, this is my only source of income and you are making serious problems to me (financially)

i hope you wont take this the wrong way
thank you for your time, and have a good day  Smiley

The trust system has all sorts of issues.  I have no idea what you've done and I'm not interested in looking into it.  I will tell you that there are known scammers around here with neutral trust according to the default trust list.  If, as you say, you can straighten it out with these guys, then that's your best bet.  Also, a lot of these guys simply echo each others ratings so you ought to find out who actually accused you and sort it out with that person.

Note: if your thing is selling the MS product keys, I know Vod hates that and is unlikely to change his rating.
sr. member
Activity: 260
Merit: 250
July 03, 2016, 09:43:29 AM
i have never scammed anybody on this forum, yet i have -16 for selling something against tearms of sales
even though i have 19 positive trust ratings, i have 4 negatives that gave me -16

people, i know im not doing something ideal, but im not a scammer, i have always treated my clients with utmost respect, as they can all confirm

with this post i personally ask Vod, mexxer-2, ibminer and Lutpin, to remove my trust rating, as it is simply not fair, have replaced every not working key my client had problems with, and the price on those is so low that you cant hold me by the same standards as when you buy a windows key for 199$ from the store

there are numerous forum members doing actuall scamming, i was scammed by forum user lind82 for 160$ 2 days ago, and he had -2 trust atm, i had -16

im not asking for the world here, but after being a member for some time i think i proved im not a scammer, the only thing your trust rating is doing is turning down my (potential) clients and sending them to other sellers, who are doing the same thing im doing

not to say i know a seller (i wont be naming him ofc) on the forum that is here a bit longer then me and has +1 trust rating, compared to my -16, and he is doing the SAME THING

please dont be hypocritical and let me do my work in piece, this is my only source of income and you are making serious problems to me (financially)

i hope you wont take this the wrong way
thank you for your time, and have a good day  Smiley
legendary
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May 26, 2016, 02:34:33 PM
Right, and if you say "leaving trust" or "giving trust" it's really not clear whether you're trying to say that you left feedback or whether you added someone to your trust list.  In fact, I think when most people say "giving/leaving trust" the mean the former (feedback) when it sounds more like the latter (added to trust list).  Now mix this in with people asking how how the trust system works and you can hopefully see why it's confusing as hell.  Basically, call it what it is and things will be easier: leaving/giving feedback vs adding/removing from trust list.

I get your entire point, except how giving/leaving trust sounds more like the adding to the trust list? I think all people who say giving/leaving trust mean feedback, never came across the other one.

Edit: may be like this:
Giving trust to X -> I trust X -> by adding him to my trust list?
Leaving trust to X -> Huh Can't appear to mean anything other than leaving him a feedback..

I will try using feedback instead of trust. I knew trust wasn't the correct term to use, but I got stuck to it and didn't have any problems with that yet, so I just kept using it, just like I don't care about the grammar most of the times. Grin


Edit: If you ask me, newbies are like to use 'trust' than 'feedback'. Feedback can mean a lot of different things too. The link text reads Trust too, so it isn't really surprising that everyone new is like to use 'trust'.

Yes, and those same newbies are the ones posting in these threads saying "wait, how does this work?".
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