Marlboroza is abusing DT power! - page 2.

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Quote from: Golden Billion on July 04, 2018, 02:32:07 PM

Well, about whining is an easy exaggeration. And not listening to the arguments of his opponent, citing the patterns of his thinking as an example, one can only demonstrate the narrowness of his mind.

I have listened to your arguments and they're shit.

Ponzi scheme is not a lottery. Nor is it comparable in any way to casino gambling, Bitcoin trading, stock market, or any other fallacious arguments you would like to make. Also double-posting with your alts is still a rule violation. Stop.

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And I also want your respected investor advocates to ask what is the difference between margin trading on the exchange from the pyramid?

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Quote from: marlboroza on July 04, 2018, 01:36:22 PM

Quote from: Golden Billion on July 04, 2018, 01:28:36 PM

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To my regret, you are not right, dear marlboroza. One of these two investors takes the entire bank. That is, he will take 2 dollars and will receive a profit of 100%.

And if they reinvest?
What if first "donor" is waiting for $8? 8 people will lose money. What if they win and reinvest 8$? 16 "donors" will lose money. And so on. It seems that you don't understand how ponzi works or you are just playing dumb.

It's a game !!!!
A game !!! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gsviIGjYYM&frags=pl%2Cwn
This is not your future.
This is a game on the blockchain. A smart-contract can not be bought. But you - I'm not sure.
Mutual aid fund - can you hear of this?
Dollar is a pyramid, let's close all those who accept dollars.
Bitcoin is a pyramid? Was 20k - became 6k. People lost their savings. What else is so volatile in the world? All those who promoted BCC - did they mark the trust?

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Quote from: suchmoon on July 04, 2018, 02:22:59 PM

Quote from: Golden Billion on July 04, 2018, 02:07:14 PM

Well, if you are satisfied with this, then the chance to pick up the ponies in all players is the same. Since no one can forbid you to go out on any day after 100 hours of being in the game. Consequently, your chance of losing your deposit depends only on your own greed. And not from the deception of the administration of the game.

No, it depends on roping in more people to get scammed. Otherwise you wouldn't be here whining about it, would you?

Well, about whining is an easy exaggeration. And not listening to the arguments of his opponent, citing the patterns of his thinking as an example, one can only demonstrate the narrowness of his mind.

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Quote from: marlboroza on July 04, 2018, 01:36:22 PM

Quote from: Golden Billion on July 04, 2018, 01:28:36 PM

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To my regret, you are not right, dear marlboroza. One of these two investors takes the entire bank. That is, he will take 2 dollars and will receive a profit of 100%.

And if they reinvest?
What if first "donor" is waiting for $8? 8 people will lose money. What if they win and reinvest 8$? 16 "donors" will lose money. And so on. It seems that you don't understand how ponzi works or you are just playing dumb.

So, before we talk about PonziTrust crypto pyramid, we simply have to provide you with information about where the name PonziTrust came from and what the “financial pyramid” means.
   Charles Ponzi (March 3, 1882, Lugo, Italy — January 1949, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil) is an Italian “pyramid constructor”, the founder of the “Ponzi scheme”. On October 25, 1920, Ponzi’s firm was declared bankrupt, and on October 30, Charles Ponzi was sentenced to five years.
   The financial pyramid (also known as the investment pyramid) is a way of supporting income for the participants of the structure through constant attraction of funds. The income to the first participants of the pyramid is paid from the contributions of subsequent participants. In most cases, the true source of income is hidden, and a fictitious or insignificant source is declared instead. Such substitution is a fraud.
   For most people, the phrase “financial pyramid” is associated with a deception. How then can we ensure trust between the parties, when neither party has confidence in the actions of the other party? Can a financial pyramid be honest?
   Yes, it can!
   It’s the blockchain platform that allows us to say so. Blockchain is changing the world and it’s silly to deny it.
   We invite you to participate and start earning in the first honest, decentralized crypto pyramid PonziTrust .
   We perfectly understand that the negative experience behind the history and reputation of financial pyramids is great, but we consciously keep the word “pyramid”. Let this be a warning to possible unconscious actions.
Give us a chance to prove that the pyramid can be honest!
Let’s break stereotypes together!
Believe in the honesty of the game!
   Check the open source code on GitHub and make sure it’s honest.
   Our team is sincerely convinced that the pyramid should be recognized by the society as well as trading on the stock exchange, as well as casino and lottery. After all, this is the same gambling as the trade in cryptocurrency. Financial pyramids and HYIPs have the same growth and decline, which cannot be predicted. But unlike lotteries and casinos, thousands of people can earn money in the pyramid.
   We do not hide that the decentralized PonziTrust crypto pyramid is built according to the classical scheme of supporting income for the participants through constant attraction of funds. Is it bad? Banks and many financial institutions that fail as often as pyramids work under the same scheme. For example: Lehman Brothers Holdings, Madoff Investment Securities…
   The uniqueness of the decentralized PonziTrust crypto pyramid is that the system of PonziTrust smart contracts will not allow the founders to deceive the depositors.

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   From now on, everything depends on you!

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   PonziTrust is an open, honest gambling and intellectual game! This is a captivating, profitable experiment where risk, excitement, analytics and calculation are welcome, and there is no place for fraud.
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   Invest as much as you can afford.
   Earn, earn and earn again!

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Quote from: Golden Billion on July 04, 2018, 02:07:14 PM

Well, if you are satisfied with this, then the chance to pick up the ponies in all players is the same. Since no one can forbid you to go out on any day after 100 hours of being in the game. Consequently, your chance of losing your deposit depends only on your own greed. And not from the deception of the administration of the game.

No, it depends on roping in more people to get scammed. Otherwise you wouldn't be here whining about it, would you?

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Quote from: suchmoon on July 04, 2018, 02:03:26 PM

Quote from: Golden Billion on July 04, 2018, 12:15:22 PM

In my humble opinion, more people can win in the pyramid than in the lottery. The whole experience of the pyramids proves this. I can agree, (what else can I do?) That they will lose about 80%, but still it is less than in lotteries. Plus, in the rules it is clearly written that the game Ponzi is a pyramid. All is honest and there is no deceit.

That doesn't answer the question. The chance of winning this week's Powerball is roughly 1 in 292 million. I can make a decision to buy or not to buy the lottery ticket based on that. Ponzi participants have no such information and can't make an informed decision. Ponzi is not a lottery.

Well, if you are satisfied with this, then the chance to pick up the ponies in all players is the same. Since no one can forbid you to go out on any day after 100 hours of being in the game. Consequently, your chance of losing your deposit depends only on your own greed. And not from the deception of the administration of the game.

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Quote from: Golden Billion on July 04, 2018, 12:15:22 PM

In my humble opinion, more people can win in the pyramid than in the lottery. The whole experience of the pyramids proves this. I can agree, (what else can I do?) That they will lose about 80%, but still it is less than in lotteries. Plus, in the rules it is clearly written that the game Ponzi is a pyramid. All is honest and there is no deceit.

That doesn't answer the question. The chance of winning this week's Powerball is roughly 1 in 292 million. I can make a decision to buy or not to buy the lottery ticket based on that. Ponzi participants have no such information and can't make an informed decision. Ponzi is not a lottery.

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Quote from: marlboroza on July 04, 2018, 01:36:22 PM

Quote from: Golden Billion on July 04, 2018, 01:28:36 PM

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To my regret, you are not right, dear marlboroza. One of these two investors takes the entire bank. That is, he will take 2 dollars and will receive a profit of 100%.

And if they reinvest?
What if first "donor" is waiting for $8? 8 people will lose money. What if they win and reinvest 8$? 16 "donors" will lose money. And so on. It seems that you don't understand how ponzi works or you are just playing dumb.

Tell me, dear, and the pension fund in your country is the Pyramid?
You say he is regulated by the state. What is or who represents the state?
Who can you trust more, the prime minister with his inferences in his head or a smart contract?

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Quote from: marlboroza on July 04, 2018, 01:36:22 PM

Quote from: Golden Billion on July 04, 2018, 01:28:36 PM

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To my regret, you are not right, dear marlboroza. One of these two investors takes the entire bank. That is, he will take 2 dollars and will receive a profit of 100%.

And if they reinvest?
What if first "donor" is waiting for $8? 8 people will lose money. What if they win and reinvest 8$? 16 "donors" will lose money. And so on. It seems that you don't understand how ponzi works or you are just playing dumb.

Do you really think that all who enter their tokens into the game do not understand that the prize goes to a smaller part of the participants? All the players, judging by telegram chat, are well aware of this. People when they come to play in a casino are they also sure that everyone who has entered will necessarily win? The forum is actively advertising ICO gambling https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-bineuro-is-over-3408613 why you do not paint trusts there? How is gambling advertising different from advertising a pyramid? Sorry for my english.

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Quote from: Golden Billion on July 04, 2018, 01:28:36 PM

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To my regret, you are not right, dear marlboroza. One of these two investors takes the entire bank. That is, he will take 2 dollars and will receive a profit of 100%.

And if they reinvest?
What if first "donor" is waiting for $8? 8 people will lose money. What if they win and reinvest 8$? 16 "donors" will lose money. And so on. It seems that you don't understand how ponzi works or you are just playing dumb.

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Quote from: marlboroza on July 04, 2018, 01:19:55 PM

Quote from: Golden Billion on July 04, 2018, 12:35:01 PM

Since before you write your post you could not fully understand the rules of Ponzi where it is directly written that they refuse to own a smart contract and as a result can not escape with the money of depositors

Actually all people can lose money. Lets say there are only 2 depositors(lets call them D1 and D2) and 0% fee:

D1) invest 1$
D2) invest 1$
D1) receive 2$
D1) reinvest 2$
D2) receive 2$
D2) reinvest 2$

Both depositors are now waiting for 4$ while there is only 2$ in the "game".

See? Everyone loses, fee is irrelevant.

To my regret, you are not right, dear marlboroza. One of these two investors takes the entire bank. That is, he will take 2 dollars and will receive a profit of 100%. The second will lose. If you do me a favor and get acquainted with the project, then I will not have to explain simple things.

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Quote from: Golden Billion on July 04, 2018, 12:35:01 PM

Since before you write your post you could not fully understand the rules of Ponzi where it is directly written that they refuse to own a smart contract and as a result can not escape with the money of depositors

Actually all people can lose money. Lets say there are only 2 depositors(lets call them D1 and D2) and 0% fee:

D1) invest 1$
D2) invest 1$
D1) receive 2$
D1) reinvest 2$
D2) receive 2$
D2) reinvest 2$

Both depositors are now waiting for 4$ while there is only 2$ in the "game".

See? Everyone loses, fee is irrelevant.

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Quote from: actmyname on July 04, 2018, 12:19:36 PM

Quote from: Golden Billion on July 04, 2018, 12:15:22 PM

In my humble opinion, many more people than in the lottery can win in the pyramid. The whole experience of the pyramids proves this. I can agree, (what else can I do?) That they will lose about 80%, but still it is more than in lotteries. Plus, in the rules it is clearly written that the game Ponzi is a pyramid. All is honest and there is no deceit.

Your opinion is factually wrong. Provided that the ponzi provider doesn't run away and doesn't take any fees, you're looking at a zero-sum game. All the money passes from person to person.

There are only more winners than lowers when you have one person lose a LOT.

Since before you write your post you could not fully understand the rules of Ponzi where it is directly written that they refuse to own a smart contract and as a result can not escape with the money of depositors, then to refute your error does not make sense to me.
"Key event in the industry of crypto-currencies
⚠️ 25.05.18, there was a key event in the industry of crypto-currencies.
👁 The administration of the Ponzi Trust project, as it was announced, has activated the functions of "giving up ownership": both on the Ponzi token and on the Ponzi Trust game. The game finally and irrevocably became the first, universal, common to all mankind law in a blockchain with the ability to make a profit.💰
🔮 Perhaps not everyone is fully aware of what happened. Like many in 2009 - did not understand what will result in the appearance of bitcoin.
🔀 References to "retirement" transactions: 👇🏻
Transaction №1
Transaction №2"
https://ponzitrust.com/en/news/

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I understand that The Pharmacist in the pharmacy is apparently not the right medicine given to the brain so he peed the trust further. Sorry, I thought you (The Pharmacist) had one extra chromosome, now I understand that there are two of them.

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Quote from: Golden Billion on July 04, 2018, 12:15:22 PM

In my humble opinion, many more people than in the lottery can win in the pyramid. The whole experience of the pyramids proves this. I can agree, (what else can I do?) That they will lose about 80%, but still it is more than in lotteries. Plus, in the rules it is clearly written that the game Ponzi is a pyramid. All is honest and there is no deceit.

Your opinion is factually wrong. Provided that the ponzi provider doesn't run away and doesn't take any fees, you're looking at a zero-sum game. All the money passes from person to person.

There are only more winners than lowers when you have one person lose a LOT.

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Quote from: suchmoon on July 04, 2018, 12:03:00 PM

Quote from: Golden Billion on July 04, 2018, 11:42:29 AM

Thank you. It is very kind of you. Then the lottery is a kind of fraud, because the winnings are taken by people at the expense of other people. In the rules of the Ponzi project it is written that this is a game and that it is a pyramid. Whom does the project deceive?

Those who "invest" expecting 5% daily:

I don't know what "firest" means but it can't be anything good.

Quote from: Golden Billion on July 04, 2018, 11:56:51 AM

You have correctly understood my idea, and you perfectly understand that I am right. The lottery sells tickets, you can say it is looking for investors, the pyramid sells tokens. What's the Difference? The win in both cases is for the few who participated in both experiments. Is not it?

Odds (probability of winning) is typically known in lotteries and other legitimate forms of gambling. What are the odds of winning in a ponzi scheme?

In my humble opinion, more people can win in the pyramid than in the lottery. The whole experience of the pyramids proves this. I can agree, (what else can I do?) That they will lose about 80%, but still it is less than in lotteries. Plus, in the rules it is clearly written that the game Ponzi is a pyramid. All is honest and there is no deceit.

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Quote from: Golden Billion on July 04, 2018, 12:06:36 PM

Since gambling is not prohibited in this forum, and the pyramid is the diversity of gambling, the respected malboroza can not call it a scam and paint me a trust.

Read the rules, link in my sig. Some hints for you: don't double-post, trust system != forum rules.

You still didn't answer what is the probability of winning in a ponzi scheme.

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Quote from: suchmoon on July 04, 2018, 12:03:00 PM

Quote from: Golden Billion on July 04, 2018, 11:42:29 AM

Thank you. It is very kind of you. Then the lottery is a kind of fraud, because the winnings are taken by people at the expense of other people. In the rules of the Ponzi project it is written that this is a game and that it is a pyramid. Whom does the project deceive?

Those who "invest" expecting 5% daily:

I don't know what "firest" means but it can't be anything good.

Since gambling is not prohibited in this forum, and the pyramid is the diversity of gambling, the respected marlboroza can not call it a scam and paint me a trust.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on July 04, 2018, 11:54:41 AM

Quote from: Golden Billion on July 04, 2018, 11:42:29 AM

Thank you. It is very kind of you. Then the lottery is a kind of fraud, because the winnings are taken by people at the expense of other people. In the rules of the Ponzi project it is written that this is a game and that it is a pyramid. Whom does the project deceive?

And just like you, people may not fully understand what a Ponzi scheme is and give them money without understanding the insane risks involved--that's why Ponzis are illegal in my country.

Only on bitcointalk will you find people openly advertising Ponzis as "HYIPs" or some other form of investment schemes. It's dishonest and people fall for it and lose their money as a result. Lotteries advertise exactly what they are, and they're also regulated by the government. These Ponzis here have zero controls and are outright scams.

Forgive me, are these people weak-minded? They can not read? Why do you think that no one knows what a pyramid is?

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