Topic: Marriage, be strict, or be out of it. (Read 2009 times)

Marriage is pretty simple;

When two individuals wish to bond and spend their lives together, they create a formal agreement of their bond and combine their assets. The state is really only interested in the income implications of these individuals.

If either party wants to break the bond, they should have the ability to do so. Without this freedom, marriage is slavery.

Now, if we add in polygamy, the system becomes a lot more complex. I'm sure it's feasible to have a good polygamist relationship, but I'm not exactly sure how the state would track that agreement between all the consenting, adult individuals.

I think that it is not necessary to create complex systems and contracts for the conclusion of marriage. It’s enough for people to come to understand that marriage is serious and responsible. And you need to very carefully look at the person with whom you enter into marriage. You need to ask yourself the question, are you ready to live with this person all the life and raise children?

 Everyone wants a perfect match. Instead of identifying themselves that, Are they perfect for someone?

That's a lie. But there's quite a few people out there you can live with without wanting to kill them

Everyone has a soul mate.

One thing that is amusing to me is people who say "marriage should just be between a man and a woman".

Well, unfortunately that is NOT legal marriage.  Legal marriage is a binding THREE party contract between two real persons and a fictitious person.   

While I respect ABOVE ALL your rights to do whatever the hell you believe in and want to do, to me personally this is an act of disrespect for the beautiful love between two people.  To me it is like saying that man, in creation of corporations such as the state, is a higher authority than nature (God if you prefer).  I also see it as implicitly saying and signing that we don't trust each other, don't really love each other, but rather are obeying the will of those men that claim to represent the corporate signer of the contract.   

So why am I here ranting?  Now that I've told you what I believe, I will confide that I am considering entering just such contract that I abhor, so that said third party corporate representatives will go a bit easy on us with their constant abuse brought on through mental illness and "allow" one of the real parties to work for a living inside some arbitrary borders. 

When in Rome do as the Romans do, as they say.. after all we can ignore the contract after receiving the "benefit", a signature is nothing really and we do as we believe is right.  Or am I just another coward afraid to stand for his convictions? 

Thanks for your comments  



         

Racism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_license#United_States

Well, my wife and I got married because we wanted to be bound to each other, it is an expression of our commitment. There are no other benefits to be had (excepting ensuring that our assets pass to the other in death, not a given in UK law, even in a long term adult partnership).

But in terms of the actual rules, they are whatever you decide they are as a couple. Some people have open marriages for example.

As for religious, only if you make it so. On paper my wife is Hindu, myself Christian. In practice neither of us are religious.

Marriage does not hold its roots in religion anyway, the earliest recorded marriages where ancient Greek and ancient Roman and were nothing more than a promise, or an arrangement, often without ceremony.

In fact, some mainstream modern religions regard marriage as a secular affair.

This. It's only a contract to make your taxes a little less at the end of the year.

I'm sure this has been brought up before. Probably more so by the tinfoil hats. But have any of you guys wondered why they push the opinion like crazy? I kinda figured it was so the double digit IQ's would feel good about themselves at the end of the day for accomplishing something. While forget they are letting the government screw more stuff up while they aren't looking. Sort of like a distraction. In other words:

"Oh looky over here! Wooo gay marriage controversy. Like you hear the media shout everyday. But now you have the chance to make your vote count! Don't mind us over here while we totally not patriot act the shit out of you over here."

This must be some uncommon sense of the word "correct" with which I was not previously familiar. That or your barking mad.

Martin Luther: "As it is not within my power not to be a man, so it is not my prerogative to be without a woman. Again, as it is not in your power not to be a woman, so it is not your prerogative to be without a man."
16th century marriage was a business between families combined with attraction between the sexes, so he was also in opposition to the celibacy oath of the Chatolic. He helped some nuns escape from a monestary and married one of them Katherine was 22 when he was 42!

Paulus also said something about marriage being for people who can not help themselves and give in to desires, not a matter for the church!

Here in Denmark, civil gay marriages have been allowed for 30 years and just 2 months ago, the Danish church has allowed the marriage to take place in our state churches. Opinions have been both for and against and some of the protesting priests have suggested that the marriage ritual was taken out entirely from church services.

whats the history, what luno said?

In the 16th century, Martin Luther declared marriage to be "a worldly thing . . . that belongs to the realm of government". So in Western Europe and in the U.S., most churches are providing a "blessing" service for couples, nothing holy about marriage.

ANARCHIST ALL THE WAY! let people decide their contracts and let everyone else decide what contracts they honor

I believe that marriage is between a man and a woman and a llama and a chair. 
No, WTF do I care who you want to love?

I had an adult partnership with children, now the partner became my wife and now I am wishing she would leave me.

If a woman ever asks me to marry I am going to smuggle myself into North Korea.

Yes you did read that right.

Especially if you know the history of how they got into it in the first place.

Possibly one of the least excusable realms for government to be getting involved in.

Marriage is ultimately a religious act, brought over into the secular world.  I don't really care if people want to called themselves married or not - it makes no difference to me, and if it makes them happy, then all power to them.