Topic: Martin Armstrong Discussion - page 245. (Read 647062 times)

Rothschilds getting exactly what he has wanted and planned out:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/hillary-tells-supporters-to-effectively-revolt-against-trump/

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/the-rising-civil-unrest-in-america-is-highly-dangerous-for-the-future/

true, the romans and greeks were known to take young boys as lovers.

the sacrifice part, if indeed that is happening, would not seem to be part of *modern human nature, especially children. but we do have a history of sacrifice (incan, mayan etc). it would be interesting to know where that belief came from. it may be the common found belief that the world was previously destroyed because the people had made the gods unhappy with their behaviour.

the cannibalism was 'resorted to', not done for pleasure, however case could be made that if the going doctrine was to do 'xyz' for whatever reason, we humans can easily get it done. When it is an act committed against another group all it really takes it to sufficiently demonize or think of others as sub-human - then regular people can do awful things (eg in war or as mass murderers can).

edit: modern

Why are we surprised?

Do we really think that human nature ever changes. They burned people at the stake even in the good ole' USA for their religious beliefs.

People somehow are aghast that what happened 100 years ago is happening again, as if cycles don't repeat.

http://history.stackexchange.com/questions/33909/did-people-in-china-resort-to-cannibalism-during-the-reign-of-mao

It almost seems too sick and crazy to be true and this no doubt helps with hiding it. However, with the long running UK pedo saga only (BBC, politicians, Lords, Jimmy Saville) recently being unearthed + vague connections /similarities to The Finders etc, you just never know. If proven it where does it leave society? Down an uncomfortable bloody road with regards to the reasoning behind of these actions.

One logical question to ask then is - if not talking about what it seems, then what are they referring to? The same goes with the Comet Pizza owner, that circle of people, their instagram feeds and the comments. I saw it suggested that some of the bands related to the Comet Pizza scene are just controversial and arty, but I don't know of anything at all related to this topic that is arty, avant-garde or reputation enhancing 'controversial'. I actually find it hard to believe that such a diverse group of people (M & F, married etc) all joke around with topics such as these.

The occult is definitely an interesting topic. I'll go as far to say there is much about history, mythology and culture that we do not know, have completely forgotten, have misinterpreted or have discarded in the names of science, religion or values. Mythology is by far my favourite - I think as humans we have largely forgotten our history.

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And by Hot Potato, I mean that no one wants to investigate this, they don't even want to touch it, get burned..  Maybe they'd be killed?

Oz too, huh?  There have been rumors for decades (that I am aware of, maybe much longer) that TPTB in the UK have been into this.  Now all of this has stormed onto the Alt-Media here in the US.  They (the Alt-Media) are looking into it.  It may be gaining traction.

Nothing makes one of these powerful people feel more powerful then buggering a child.

There's been 2 suicided investigators that Ive linked to in the killary kills again thread, that appear to be linked to this
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/killary-kills-again-and-again-and-againkills-kills-kills-1683666

On reddit front page today, frodo, elija woods, talks about the hollywood pedos. Coincidence? Prob not.
https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/4kl4bm/elijah_wood_speaks_out_on_child_abuse_in/

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Let me go ahead and drop the Hottest Potato in the World now.  I don't think Armstrong, Zero Hedge, Breitbart or anyone prominent will touch this.  Look into it, and you will see why...

PizzaGate

^---  The scandal of the millennium?  The biggest scandal of all time?

I'll let you all do your own checking, as I have NO IDEA if any of this is true or not.  If just 1% is true, then this very, very bad...

Wikileaks (Podesta emails) kicked this off when various noticed the pedophilia-seeming comments re "pizza", "hotdog", "map", "Spirit Cooking", "handkerchief", etc.

Google terms to get you started:

"Comet Ping Pong Pizza, Washington, DC"
"Disturbing, Art, Tony Podesta"
"Child trafficking, Epstein, Clinton, parties"
"wikileaks.org, podesta emails, emailid/32795"

Warning: very disgusting stuff has already been unearthed.  Ugh if true.

Realize Trump is going to drive the SUPERMAN STRONG dollar vortex absolutely higher than Hillary would have, because he is going to drop corporate taxes from 33% to 15% one of the lowest in the world and other STRONG USA activities:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/trump-is-asking-for-your-suggestions-interesting-lets-see/

Rothshilds needs this dollar vortex to bring the world to its knees to beg for SDR liquidity injections to get the world economy moving again.

2017 - 2020 is going to be amazing. I am very excited.    

Yeah I think this is a little simplistic, and conveniently (as always) relieves the average citizen from any blame. What we see in the United States is just the natural result of Democracy when people vote for the centralization of power. The reason corporations write the laws are:

A) The people vote for such methods of problem solving (regulations/bureaucracy), rather than solving them through the application of tort law.

B) No one else understands the complexity of the issues in the respective industries other than those who worked in those industries. There's no other way to actually write the laws.

So the problem is in the process we've chosen as a society to deal with the flaws of "capitalism", once again we've chosen central planning, we've chosen the state. It's in the name "state": Frozen in time, inflexible, unable to adapt to changing circumstances, inherently and inevitably prone to becoming totally corrupt.

Study the evidence linking Rothschilds to Wikileaks. Don't be so naive. Where there is smoke, there is fire.

Rothschilds has always done his manipulation this way using compartmentalization and deception.

I always am curious to read your take on things.

As discussed before, I don't agree with the insinuation re:wikileaks, although of course it is entirely possible the Podesta / DNC hack source was related. For me though, this doesn't constitute control. Leveraging the fearlessness of wikileaks, yes. However I'm not outright dismissing it - things are often deeper than they seem - the Clinton email addressing the compliance of the masses hints at that (and at the eventual result of losing grip).

I also think the Trump presidency was easier to see from the outside & I more agree with Minor Transgressions take, especially the part that the media is dead (and good riddance).

Very happy to report that I ran 10:57 (10 minutes and 57 seconds) for 2.4 kms this 5am at the humid equator here in Davao City, Mindanao.

That is 7:20 per mile pace (7 minutes and 20 seconds)! OMG! I haven't run any thing under 8+ minute pace lately since my illness has been so debilitating in my gut.

This morning I had a slight gut pain, but yet I felt like I blasted out of a cannon. The entire run was strong.

7:20!   Damn that is fast considering. At age 51.5 and with a serious liver and digestive illness. Happy day.    

Well it is not close to my sub-5 minute pace at that distance at my peak in my 20s, but still considering the situation and age.

7 more weeks countdown to expert diagnosis in Singapore! Got to do as much as I can on my conditioning before then.


Edit: I am roughly above 50% of the world-class athletes at my age, since I roughly assume that today could have run 24 - 25 minutes for a 5K:

http://www.runnersworld.com/tools/age-grade-calculator

Note in 2008 at age 44, I ran around 19 - 20 minutes for a 5K and I was just farting around and hadn't trained, but I wasn't so ill then. That was about 67% of the world class athletes at that age. I suspect if I wasn't ill and was training seriously, I could get to within 75 - 80% of the world class athletes.

So the coming dollar vortex would be more deflationary and more catastrophic, so that the nations would come to their knees and accept the SDRs.

Rothschilds+Rockefeller are engineering all of this.

Their secretive 180 IQ laden think tanks also worked out that the polls would get it wrong (but they didn't fool me!):

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I think Rothschilds with his control over Wikileaks and many insiders in the MSM, instead made Trump the President and needed to do it in a way that Democrats could be fooled into losing the election.

For the reason I stated upthread:

Let me begin by a recap on a few things. The Clinton campaign initially targetted
Sanders and Trump. They wanted Trump as the Republican opponent as they expected
that he would be even more disliked than Hillary Clinton. Hence they pushed their
media contacts to give Trump airtime and encouragement. They sucked Sanders in
and ensured that the polling system was rigged to favour Hillary. Thanks to
some insiders and to Wikileaks much of that story is public knowledge.

You might wonder why they thought that selecting a candidate a majority of their
supporters wouldn't vote for was a good idea, but step back a bit from that idea.
Their customers are the people who give them money. And their customers wanted
Hillary. They thought they had enough control to pull it off. When Sanders
conceded and supported Hillary, and when Trump won the Republican nomination
while shredding that Party, confirmation bias kicked in. You know the rest of
that story.

Before I get to the next point, I'll mention that I don't have a dog in this fight.
People sometimes equate racism with fascism. While the two tend to go together,
Fascism is capitalism writ large, Mussolini defined Fascisim as Corporatism. It's
when the Corporate lobby decides who gets to govern and it doesn't care what laws
are passed so long as the profits keep increasing. If you're a neoliberal and want
to know what a fascist looks like, begin by taking a long hard look in the mirror.

That, however, misses my point. In a US election that fielded the two most disliked
contenders in its history, third party candidates were crushed. Further, nobody
seems to think this might be either an issue or indeed a problem. The US does
not hear policies or views on issues out of favour with the main stream media.
Hold that thought.

Currently, the Government of India is in the midst of a crisis brought about by
either malice or by mismanagement of their paper currency, perhaps both. In
India, possession of either gold or bitcoin is probably a good thing. From what
I've read, a subtle shift has taken place, and the Indian Government seems
to have shifted the burden of proof of ownership of assets onto the citizen.
If you can't prove it's yours, it's the Government's and you are a criminal.
It may be unintended, but that seems to be how it is being played.

So what is the systemic risk of owning gold elsewhere? Here I part company with
Jim Rickards. Mr Rickards suggests that the US executive order of 1933 making
gold contraband will not recur. The free market in gold prevents the accumulation
of seniorage, thus any attempt to seize private gold would result in the price of
gold rising rapidly, frustrating the intended goal.

But first, history suggests that TPTB will move their gold to a safe location, as
in 1933, hence that constraint on government action can be discounted. Secondly,
the preponderance of paper gold in the market suggests that the ratio of physical
gold to claims for gold could run close to three figures. That suggests that a
mechanism exists which could be used to suppress the price of physical gold in an
"emergency."I'm not saying that such action will happen, merely that Mr Rickards
is less cynical than I.

I'll mention that Mr Rickards and I agree on one thing. There is financial
asymmetry between western financial markets and Russia. If a cyberwar breaks out
the West has much more to lose than Russia. The same could be said regarding
the next financial crisis.

Much depends on confidence in fiat currencies, and that depends on perceptions.
Those, in turn, are influenced by the main stream media, and recent events have
shown that the press cannot be relied upon to provide fair unbiased reporting.
Which leaves bitcoin as perhaps the last currency standing.

So world is short dollar due to amount of USD denominated debts.

We tried to reflate the system by making debt cheap for everyone (& subsequent investment flocked to high yielding emerging markets) but have strung ourselves to a weak dollar in the process.

But although the implicit point of QE was inflation, we had extended, stronger, deflation. Currency devaluing by export driven economies + no velocity of money (many of course argued that QE was deflationary). All this was with a weaker dollar post 2011.

So the question then becomes if King Dollar is so easily inflationary and the whole point of QE (on the surface) is to inflate away the debt, then why wasn't this done to begin with?

The answer, I suppose, is that the globe is so interconnected now that any major policy movement needs to be considered in a global sense. Without co-ordination and continued policy shifts (a euphemism for flying blind - something Rickards has heard from Bernanke & others ie "incoherent") the current system would probably have imploded.

That leaves us in a hell of a bind; the only politically viable solution is to keep some classes happy by reflating their assets - if prices are rising and people are paying their mortgages banks are solvent & paying shareholders in a positive loop. Overall though, we muddle through and force feed the green shoots / better tomorrow narrative, all the while knowing a monetary reset is both inevitable & highly likely due to the unintended consequences arising from policy on the fly & experimenting.

Extrapolating, I understand why many then think that a section of the global elites may be getting ready to use this to push their global money agenda.

That is the key point.

The world is short the dollar, so the vortex will suck all the dollars home while the demand for dollars skyrockets causing the strong to become so strong that it chokes off the global economy, while the Fed is forced to raise interest rates due to raging inflation in the USA due to influx of hot dollars from international capital flow stampede. Thus the rest of the world will be desperate for an alternative to the US dollar and a global liquidity provider of last resort, since the Fed will have stopped filling that role as it had been.

The USA is likely to want to capitulate also because USA economy will be toasted by the collapse of the global economy, but if not, Russia and China and others stand ready to ganging up on the USA.

Or the USA resists but the rest of the world marches ahead with the new SDR monetary reset and the USA falls further off the cliff into decadence.


The plan is like the Euro, all countries will borrow in SDRs, but they will use their local currency for wages, etc.. But this will make all countries bankruptable when their business cycles go down but they can't print their own money. All countries will be slaves as per the Greece EURO debt example, which Armstrong has explained many times.

This will take us towards the end game in Revelations where all wealth will be stored on a hill in Israel where the elite banksters have concentrated it with the above enslavement plan for the nations.


Edit: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/middle_east/sales-of-us-treasury-bonds-continue-to-try-to-stem-dollar-rise/

Yes, Rickards even wrote in his last book (The New Case for Gold) that China and Russia are acquiring gold with the blessing of the USA and Europe with the idea that all the major players would sit down in the future when the time arrives for a new global financial system.  His idea is that each major player would have about as much gold as their GDP would be relative to the world.  This means, according to Rickards, that the world's elites ARE in all of this together (this notion is explained in greater depth in his new The Road to Ruin).

So China would need a LOT more.  Russia, a much smaller economy, would still need more, but their gold holdings relative to GDP are in better shape than China's.  

Note that Russia has very little debt, how that factors into that future equation Rickards does not discuss.  Nor could I offer up and idea how meaningful a low debt by Russia would be, but it would mean something.

iamnotback: can you go into that further?

I'm assuming that the Chinese politburo keeps a relatively tight grip on its economy and after slowly introducing capitalism etc, wouldn't want to give up control.

Now with a protectionist Trump, would the US want to cede control of their economic weapons, and is this politically viable? Would there be a backlash to not MAGA?

Of course this is all predicated on everything chugging along nicely, ie. no crisis.

OROBTC: I think this has been Rickards contention for a while. Am interested to read how it fleshes out. It suggests that their is osme kind of agreement behind the scenes between nations - the premise was all nations aim to get to a % of gold to gdp & then everything can be reset, but only IF a crisis doesn't hit first & IMF is forced to step in with the only clean balance sheet.

Perhaps they just accept that the tens of trillions in debt is simply not payable and we can never grow out of it, therefore it is inflation or a bust (and inflation hasn't eventuated from QE like they expected?)

I am plowing my way through Jim Rickards's brand-new book The Road to Ruin.  He thinks the SDR will be the next world currency (but that the US$, the Euro, The J. Yen, etc.) will circulate within their home countries.  ALL foreign trade (at least larger deals) will be settled with SDRs.  Also, he expects that before too long, major multinationals (think Exxon, Volkswagen, and IBM) will issue bonds in SDRs.

Right now the IMF is not "printing" any SDRs.  There is no paper version.

Rickards pointed out one interesting point (certainly for you, iamnotback): that since the IMF does not import & export, issuing more SDRs (apparently they have only issued "new" ones only four times) would resolve Triffin's Dilemma, a notion that the major world player must run trade deficits so that there is a reserve currency.  Problem is that continued trade deficits could bankrupt the country (so the Dilemma).

I first ran into Triffin's Dilemma at FOFOA's blog some years ago.