Topic: Martin Armstrong Discussion - page 91. (Read 647176 times)

For me, the reversals are accurate today already. That's why i think it is worth having the subscription.  The system is complex, that's why I need time to understand everything. I want to trade with real money only if I can make profit with virtual money. I've already lost some real money because I've done stupid trades and I don't want this to happen again.

Armstrong is worth an absolute fortune he doesn't need the money, you clearly know nothing about him. I can understand your criticism of ask-socrates it does need a lot of work still and can be confusing. The most likely reason you and others are not having success is because you were day trading and not playing more strategically like in line with the ECM. we already have all his major predictions based off the ECM(business cycle) so by 2024 you are going to realize your mistake and you would be a fool to bet against the ECM.

the next wave is 2020.05 to 2028.65, the peak of that wave will be 2024.35(major turning point) the top and bottom of each wave is where the markets tend to make highs or lows so we have a commodity boom from 2020(low) with a high in 2024,  agricultural boom from 2020 with a high in 2024. Armstrong is also calling for a equities to breakout from 2020 with a temporary high in 2024

@MA_talk

The ECM is probably the best way to trade, in line with the business cycle. There is also no need to argue about it not being accurate to the day because this is not going to help you with your trade. Each market has its own unique cycle so it often will not line up perfectly with the ECM so for example the Dow Jones may make a cycle low in December which looks likely based off the monthly array since we also have a directional change in January.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/what-kind-of-trader-is-trading/

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What I care about is if someone sells me something or a product then I expect and demand that the service or product does as claimed.
If not then that person or company has an obligation to prove it does what It says it does or to instruct the purchaser on the correct use of that service or product.
MA does nothing to rectify, prove otherwise nor instruct his subscribers in any way shape or form.
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This is interesting. How to win, save money, without trading,

Armstrong is worth an absolute fortune he doesn't need the money, you clearly know nothing about him. I can understand your criticism of ask-socrates it does need a lot of work still and can be confusing. The most likely reason you and others are not having success is because you were day trading and not playing more strategically like in line with the ECM. we already have all his major predictions based off the ECM(business cycle) so by 2024 you are going to realize your mistake and you would be a fool to bet against the ECM.

the next wave is 2020.05 to 2028.65, the peak of that wave will be 2024.35(major turning point) the top and bottom of each wave is where the markets tend to make highs or lows so we have a commodity boom from 2020(low) with a high in 2024,  agricultural boom from 2020 with a high in 2024. Armstrong is also calling for a equities to breakout from 2020 with a temporary high in 2024

@MA_talk

The ECM is probably the best way to trade, in line with the business cycle. There is also no need to argue about it not being accurate to the day because this is not going to help you with your trade. Each market has its own unique cycle so it often will not line up perfectly with the ECM so for example the Dow Jones may make a cycle low in December which looks likely based off the monthly array since we also have a directional change in January.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/what-kind-of-trader-is-trading/



I don’t really care if he’s worth a fortune nor do I care if he thinks he’s so much smarter than 5he rest of humanity
What I care about is if someone sells me something or a product then I expect and demand that the service or product does as claimed.
If not then that person or company has an obligation to prove it does what It says it does or to instruct the purchaser on the correct use of that service or product
MA does nothing to rectify, prove otherwise nor instruct his subscribers in any w@y shape or form.

Now as for you Gumbi as u have your head so far up MAs ass that he can’t scratch it then why don’t u post the evidence as has been asked of u by others on this forum. YOU CANT BECAUSE IT DOESNT WORK.

I admit , it are difficult circumstances and at times I was also quite frustrated (mildly put). However, I've waited several years for this to be released and the trader version has been out only 6 month ago. So for me it's not a big thing to wait another 6 month for the bugs to be fixed.
I just train myself on what works well (e.g. Reversals) and omit what currently doesn't work well (e.g. reversal from other paces then dashboard table, daily and weekly arrays). For me the Socrates subscription is an investment that doesn't have to pay off quickly. I save myself the time and money to go to a WEC and for that money I can have almost 2 full years of Socrates Pro subscription with 5 assets

well, I've invited people several times to check out my forum. Most of the times I didn't take this thread serious because MAtalk and Sloanf ?ere here and discussed things I was not interest in.

So now I've mentioned this thing here in the forum and looks like you would love to call me an a........ . This is the tone here sometimes on this thread. Not very inviting.

Is this from the Premium Overview?

well, look here ?http://armstrong.forumprofi.de/showthread.php?tid=76&pid=232#pid232

The 1362 reversal would have been electable on Fri:
The 1362 reversal number is not in any report. That system is garbage. Nothing matches.

yes,the system keeps those reversals. The 1362 reversal number was there even for years and election failed several times.

Because you are assuming that the once failed un-elected reversal gets elected the following week. It is wrong because the system did not keep this reversal.

It pushed it up so it was never electable even once. The process repeatedly failed week after week. In other words the nearest reversal was never confirmed.

The simple fact is that different users get different reversals.

different users are trading against each

then at least one of the hundreds of users of the system would have noticed that

You might just be saying this because you know that I have not archived the dashboard

It's not cherry picking. In the revesal system it doesn't matter how many reversals got elected. 1 elected reversal is enough.

total non-sense. If you've purchased the Pro Level, then everybody gets the same reports.
If you have only subscribed to the Detailed Market Subscription, then of course you get less than the premium level.

It is not possible to reconcile your statements with the report content:

Saying one should look at this part of the report and not another one, and saying this weeks after the fact is cherry-picking.

Also this means that users of different levels of Socrates get different reversals so they would be trading against each other. Disgusting.

because there is no warning in the report......

I must assume that your claims are simply wrong because they are made after the fact,

The elected reversal was 1291 and it was indeed only visible in the dashboard in advance. That's why I said, better use only the dashboard at this time for reversals.
If you have archived the dashboard, you should find that number.

And then there are these other 13 elected reversals which you didn't comment at all, except that you don't seem to have archived those numbers but you want uncover an alleged fraud without even having all of the data yourself.
As I said, you have given yourself some of the reversals that were elected. e.g.
2019-05-31 131110 131480
2019-06-07 134610 136270

These 2 were elected in the week of 06/03 and 06/17
There is no need to post the other 11 reversals because only 1 elected reversal per week is already enough. to prove that you are wrong with claiming that no reversals were elected.


It looks like you have to compensate your lack of arguments by constantly screaming (bold text) at the forum

just one example should be enough: Week ends Friday 05/31, close is 131110 so the elected reversal should be in the reversal table before election,

AnonymousCoder claimed the above.
During that 7 week rally there were the following number of reversals elected. These were taken from the dashboard reversals table and always in advance published. Not only were they in the dashboard, but also in the reversals tab and after elected, they also showed up in the elected reversals table.
Week of 05/27 - 1 bullish Reversals elected

Week of 06/03 - 5 bullish Reversals elected
Week of 06/10 - no reversal elected
Week of 06/17 - 8 bullish Reversals elected

no bearish reversal was elected until today from the week of 05/27.

Claiming that no single published weekly bullish reversal was elected is therefore wrong. Socrates got the move perfectly right, only considering the reversals.
Even from the above table it's easy to see that bullish reversals were elected. They disappeared only once elected. So this there is no phantom in this case,

Closest Weekly published Bullish Reversals:

Date            Close Reversal   Comment
2019-05-10 128740  132590   Reversal too high to elect
2019-05-17 127570  131480   Reversal too high to elect
2019-05-24 128360  129100   Reversal too high to elect
2019-05-31 131110  131480   Reversal too high to elect
2019-06-07 134610  136270   Reversal too high to elect
2019-06-14 134450  134990   Reversal too high to elect
2019-06-21 140010  144370   Reversal too high to elect

This is evidence that not a single published Weekly Bullish Reversal was elected during this seven week rally. Unfortunately, Socrates pushed the Reversals higher and higher, out of reach.