Topic: [Matured] Medium Loan Request-10-15% Interest, 30-45 days, Collateral and Escrow - page 2. (Read 6257 times)

I am not really sure what you are saying here, or how it is suppose to sell your loan.
Not true. You give your collateral to a trusted escrow and the trusted escrow can sell the collateral on your behalf if you request him to do so, the proceeds would first be used to repay the loan and any excess amounts would go to you. This is very similar to you having your collateral on an exchange, only that you are not able to withdraw your collateral to a wallet that you control unless you repay the loan.
See my above point. You are able to direct the escrow provider to sell the collateral if you no longer think the collateral is something you wish to own.
You have seen people take out loans for $5,100 worth of bitcoin? Under similar terms? Please post a link to a thread for proof. I generally speaking I have seen mostly very small loans ever end up working out. Like I said before your condition that the collateral will not be sold in the event that it's value drops below a certain point essentially makes this a loan that is secured by nothing more then your reputation that you will repay. Also again, your reputation does not support you being trusted with more then 7.5 BTC
Again I am not sure what you are trying to argue here. I don't want to accuse you of anything but it somewhat looks like you are trying to use "fancy" words in order to make yourself look more qualified to give your loan credibility.

A little reminder for our cheeky little itaker boy with a mouth problem. Note this was fair number of posts ago and he's still bitching using the same weak lines


Impotent and weak

To all interested parties, all negotiations and terms are up for discussion. Reference OP for general guideline, and PM/post if you have questions and suggestions.

'MAKE ME' LOL what are you a fucking 15 year old? Your mouth should learn to remain closed when you are not given permission to speak

Once again, hang your head in shame, itaker fool. Mouth running faster then your feet can keep up with.

'no different from fiat based' - Completely ignorant or willfully not mentioning the absurd amount of manipulation and fake volume within the exchanges. Ulterior motive, 'exchange employee'?

You approach someone without even reading the thread by your own admission, makes absurd requests at refusing 3rd party escrow, and when you have lost any trust with someone and your liquidation scheme is refused, you start bitching like a whore in heat more and more as you can't get the last word in

You must be used to being humiliated in public as every single one of your careless mouthy statements are now on public view - you may have noticed, if you weren't so desperate to pretend your view are being 'supported' - that he made no mention of you or your 'view' despite 3 pages of whining on your part after your rejection because you made a shitty offer

Bitch go back to your months old loan thread and beg people to take your money

False, no counter arguement provided as it is impossible


Easily solvable using professional approach at collateral and margins.


If undisclosed ( ) collateral become worthless you profit and lender is fucked


False, shows inexperience or attempted manipulation. These markets are no different from volatile ones fiat based.


False, shows inexperience or attempted manipulation. This approach puts you above the lender in case you do not honor the deal, and you aren't to be trusted


Make me. Envy me. You are as powerless as a spent candle.

Offer is closed. No further comments required.

You forget that crypto currency scene and its volatility creates a condition that essentially destroys the traditional framework for these deals - a separate idea is needed to accurately adjust to is nature and draw up a contract that is essentially fair for both sides. Your opinion that this is a margin loan is incorrect by the fact that you must consider the exact environment in which you can apply such definitions with some reason.

You also forgot to mention the reward as well as risk that is both eliminated when I give out the collateral - I am myself forfeiting a chance to profit if the collateral goes above certain levels in the volatile market for a quick x2 or x3 if that happens, as it often does in crypto markets. I will only be able to get my collateral back if the escrow sees that I made my repayment on time - and the lender is assured of collateral disbursement through 3rd party escrow, an essential option which was somehow strangely rejected by some 'legitimate' people on these forums

Your points are valid only if you consider the profit and advantage of the lender and not the other party - and crypto currency environment as I said does not allow the traditional definitions of these contracts to be applied accurately due to the very different nature of its current 'markets'.

Also, not sure about you but I have seen members in the past with lower trust rating then either of us handling the amount easily double the portion I am asking for here, and have completed such deals successfully.

As I said, I try to reach the fairest deal possible within the given framework. I'd say, if the loaner party is willing to risk forfeiting profits from the largely volatile markets with the absolute basic consideration that collateral is not returned until full payment is made, then the lender can accept both the risk and reward of the markets as well. This is a negotiable contract and trade, and balance is essential.


'my friend' LOL finally found someone you could latch on to as support (because surely he thinks of you as a 'friend') instead of begging for customers in your long unfilled loan thread from few months ago

You bitched and moaned about leaving the thread with 'no further comment required' 'I am leaving' no less then half a dozen times now, and crawl back the moment someone writes a post that is their own opinion - making bitch moves again?

Try not to spill any dishes or mouth off at your customers again this time Not that you have long at your job anyway or your failed little exchange adventure.

Scram, whore

 

He know this very well my friend. But it is way easier to shift the risk on the lender instead of taking it for yourself

I don't think this loan poses a very good risk to the lender if you will not allow the lender (through the escrow) to liquidate the collateral in the event the value of the collateral falls below a certain point.

You are essentially applying for a margin loan which is a loan when you use a stock or a bond as collateral so you can purchase more stocks/bonds. With a margin loan the lender (usually your stock broker) will be able to sell the stocks/bonds in your account to cover your loan in any situation, not just when the price falls below a certain point. Although most brokerages will have a policy to attempt to contact you to get additional collateral in the event they wish to sell your collateral, they are not required to do so and can sell at any time for any reason. On here, lenders will generally only want the borrower to agree to allow them to sell the collateral in the event that it's value falls below a certain threshold, but would generally still be considered to be a margin loan.

If you are going to allow the collateral to be liquidated then you are essentially taking out a loan using your reputation as "proof" that you will repay. According to your OP you are asking to borrow a total of (just over) 7.5 BTC which is significantly more then your reputation should allow you to be trusted with at one time.

Resorting to editing and cheekily declaring 'closed' while the entire offer is not only ongoing, but portions have already been filled and is active

So desperate to get the last word in (or appear to do so to public) LOL

Don't worry, it will be clean and fast. You don't have to be so nervous about all of this because you just happened to be incapable of holding your lips and got yourself into something you want to run to the cops for


All serious investors, feel free to post/PM your offers. Negotiations and confirmations will take place during the process.

Closed since my post showing reality. No further comments required.

Haha - why, can't back up anything you say while hoping someone else slips up so you can go crying to the cops. Typical bitch move.

Your statements have been false, imaginary, and you are whining on other people's thread like a boy while running nothing of merit on your own.

Know your place, boy. You will learn about it soon


Keep watch, you are always hanging by men's ankles like a desperate woman with all your deals.


Offer on going, all serious suggestions welcome.

Okay!
You are:

1) offering a unfair deal which should be avoided like the plague.
2) asking for information but unwilling to give up any (as it would go straight to the police of course)
3) issuing empty threats from the safety of your bedchamber to someone which is 10000 miles from your home.
4) associated keyboard warrior actions

I think this pretty much summarizes everything up. Feel free to add 4) as you like while I go for a couple hours to work.

Have a nice rage!

It's already done.

Now just keep yourself washed, as I said

If you have anything to say, do so publicly instead of sending PM with no substance like a bitch

How can I finish this? I'm not the one witholding personal information 

Game? You really have no idea what you have gotten yourself into

Remember, you need to be careful not run your mouth so carelessly. It's a tip you would need to start practicing very soon

Being here alone makes you very very public indeed


PM sent afterwards:

He cannot shut himself up to save his life - with a mouth like this, it's a little wonder

Coward made an excuse to run and hide, can't even finish what he started. Let's  see how this turns out


While this is being dealt with, offer is still ongoing as of the moment. Feel free to post or PM and we will discuss details.

A cake? Just a notice: I'm lactose intolerant.
If it is that memorable I'll give you a free lesson on collateral and loans!

This game is getting boring though, outta here. Reply with your usual banter as you wish to calm your hormones. I'll keep watch for "other users"

I will bring you something good and memorable. You should know that

Sure sure, bring your keyboard   

Alessandro Foschi
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Florence
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Posted publicly since you didn't have the backbone to do so while daring me to confront you

Once verified, we can talk face to face. Until then, keep yourself clean and washed. Can't trust a coward like you to even send a picture, or any proof haha

Kids these days are quite easy

John Rambo the Keyboard Warrior! I've sent you a PM with everything you need.


That's you, scammer. Mr. "Non liquidable collateral" xD

LOL 'dude'.

Maybe you need to be careful who you think you can talk off to

If you want to really know how to back up your words, then put your information on the line as you suggested, and I will be sure to pay you a visit next time I am in the area. You started something you clearly thought you could finish with your mouth alone, so I will be happy to teach you otherwise if you question my character publicly.

If you are so interested but too scared, then stay tuned in the thread while hiding behind your computer and you can ask why and how to the publicly posted lenders yourself


Coward and now no chance at decent business in the future