I'm afraid you're wrong about wanting "nothing to replace it"
And Ron Paul isn't my Poster boy. I'm not a political Libertarian, I'm an agorist. That means I want to build the replacement system right now, within the shell of the old failing one, so that when it crumbles (oh, and it will, on that, I think we can agree), the new way is there to take up the slack.
A few links that may help you understand my position:
http://freekeene.com/files/marketforliberty.pdf
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/146411/BookClub/NLM.epub
http://agorism.info/
But before you read those, I want to ask you, What is it about human nature that you believe libertarianism would need to change?
Topic: Max Keiser - "Libertarians are Intellectually Lazy & Idiots" - page 8. (Read 10373 times)
This is why I have abandoned all the movements to change society. John Lennon had it right in Revolution. Bitcoin is a technology that can help bring positive changes. It won't happen in my lifetime, but this is a revolution in how to think about money.
Just because it's hard doesn't mean it's impossible. Just look at the progress made already in the Free State Project.
Quote from: Henry Ford
If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right.
Libertarianism has no plans to change human nature. We want to change the structure of society to utilize human nature, rather than fight against it.
This is why I have abandoned all the movements to change society. John Lennon had it right in Revolution. Bitcoin is a technology that can help bring positive changes. It won't happen in my lifetime, but this is a revolution in how to think about money.
Just because it's hard doesn't mean it's impossible. Just look at the progress made already in the Free State Project.
Quote from: Henry Ford
If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right.
Libertarianism has no plans to change human nature. We want to change the structure of society to utilize human nature, rather than fight against it.
This is why I have abandoned all the movements to change society. John Lennon had it right in Revolution. Bitcoin is a technology that can help bring positive changes. It won't happen in my lifetime, but this is a revolution in how to think about money.
Just because it's hard doesn't mean it's impossible. Just look at the progress made already in the Free State Project.
Quote from: Henry Ford
If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right.
This is why I have abandoned all the movements to change society. John Lennon had it right in Revolution Number 9. Bitcoin is a technology that can help bring positive changes. It won't happen in my lifetime, but this is a revolution in how to think about money.
Just because it's hard doesn't mean it's impossible. Just look at the progress made already in the Free State Project.
Quote from: Henry Ford
If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right.
Libertarians believe in no government and survival of the strongest. Historically Libertarians practice continuous warfare. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism#History Other than Vikings living through raiding unsuspecting villages, I don't see a culture of selfishness actually working. Eventually collectivism of some sort will overpower warlords.
WTF have you been smoking?
You take one example, of Medieval Iceland, twist it all up wrong, and say "historically Libertarians practice continuous warfare"? Come on, man. Nobody can be that stupid. You have to be trolling. The Vikings were from Norway.
Tell me how a society based on this practices continuous warfare.
You're looking at the non-libertarian potions of the offered example societies, and saying, "see, libertarianism promotes these bad things" The problem is, that portions of an AnCap society have been implemented, but never the whole thing before. So any (non-fiction) example I give you is going to have holes. I can give fictional accounts of what an AnCap society might look like, if you'll take those as examples. I can give you theoretical constructions of the entire society, as well.
But to answer the original question, Why hasn't it been done before, the answer is pretty simple. The gangs who claim to be in charge of the land where we might set one up seem to feel that our trying would be a threat to their control. That, in and of itself, is all the evidence I need to be confident that it would work.
Libertarians believe in no government and survival of the strongest. Historically Libertarians practice continuous warfare. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism#History Other than Vikings living through raiding unsuspecting villages, I don't see a culture of selfishness actually working. Eventually collectivism of some sort will overpower warlords.
WTF have you been smoking?
You take one example, of Medieval Iceland, twist it all up wrong, and say "historically Libertarians practice continuous warfare"? Come on, man. Nobody can be that stupid. You have to be trolling. The Vikings were from Norway.
Tell me how a society based on this practices continuous warfare.
You're looking at the non-libertarian potions of the offered example societies, and saying, "see, libertarianism promotes these bad things" The problem is, that portions of an AnCap society have been implemented, but never the whole thing before. So any (non-fiction) example I give you is going to have holes. I can give fictional accounts of what an AnCap society might look like, if you'll take those as examples. I can give you theoretical constructions of the entire society, as well.
But to answer the original question, Why hasn't it been done before, the answer is pretty simple. The gangs who claim to be in charge of the land where we might set one up seem to feel that our trying would be a threat to their control. That, in and of itself, is all the evidence I need to be confident that it would work.
Libertarians believe in no government and survival of the strongest. Historically Libertarians practice continuous warfare. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism#History Other than Vikings living through raiding unsuspecting villages, I don't see a culture of selfishness actually working. Eventually collectivism of some sort will overpower warlords.
WTF have you been smoking?
You take one example, of Medieval Iceland, twist it all up wrong, and say "historically Libertarians practice continuous warfare"? Come on, man. Nobody can be that stupid. You have to be trolling. The Vikings were from Norway.
Tell me how a society based on this practices continuous warfare.
Libertarians believe in no government and survival of the strongest. Historically Libertarians practice continuous warfare. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism#History Other than Vikings living through raiding unsuspecting villages, I don't see a culture of selfishness actually working. Eventually collectivism of some sort will overpower warlords.
WTF have you been smoking?
You take one example, of Medieval Iceland, twist it all up wrong, and say "historically Libertarians practice continuous warfare"? Come on, man. Nobody can be that stupid. You have to be trolling. The Vikings were from Norway.
Tell me how a society based on this practices continuous warfare.
I would like to see a real Libertarian plan for a civilization that would actually work. If there is one, why haven't they created it yet?
You are taking part in it. The plan is to just replace governments and their creations piece by piece with superior decentralized alternatives. If these alternatives don't get created or adopted, perhaps there is still a need for government intervention in that realm. The idea that everything should be planned out beforehand is for other people to do.
I can see Bitcoin promoting privacy where government does not interfere with the individual without cause, such as taxation without representation. In fact, Bitcoin will probably eliminate the need for national borders and limit the ability of large-scale warfare because money is globally interdependent.
What is America? look at all our wars.
since when
I would like to see a real Libertarian plan for a civilization that would actually work. If there is one, why haven't they created it yet?
You are taking part in it. The plan is to just replace governments and their creations piece by piece with superior decentralized alternatives. If these alternatives don't get created or adopted, perhaps there is still a need for government intervention in that realm. The idea that everything should be planned out beforehand is for other people to do.
I can see Bitcoin promoting privacy where government does not interfere with the individual without cause, such as taxation without representation. In fact, Bitcoin will probably eliminate the need for national borders and limit the ability of large-scale warfare because money is globally interdependent.
What is America? look at all our wars.
since when
I would like to see a real Libertarian plan for a civilization that would actually work. If there is one, why haven't they created it yet?
You are taking part in it. The plan is to just replace governments and their creations piece by piece with superior decentralized alternatives. If these alternatives don't get created or adopted, perhaps there is still a need for government intervention in that realm. The idea that everything should be planned out beforehand is for other people to do.
I can see Bitcoin promoting privacy where government does not interfere with the individual without cause, such as taxation without representation. In fact, Bitcoin will probably eliminate the need for national borders and limit the ability of large-scale warfare because money is globally interdependent.
What is America? look at all our wars.
I would like to see a real Libertarian plan for a civilization that would actually work. If there is one, why haven't they created it yet?
You are taking part in it. The plan is to just replace governments and their creations piece by piece with superior decentralized alternatives. If these alternatives don't get created or adopted, perhaps there is still a need for government intervention in that realm. The idea that everything should be planned out beforehand is for other people to do.
I can see Bitcoin promoting privacy where government does not interfere with the individual without cause, such as taxation without representation. In fact, Bitcoin will probably eliminate the need for national borders and limit the ability of large-scale warfare because money is globally interdependent.
What is America? look at all our wars.
I would like to see a real Libertarian plan for a civilization that would actually work. If there is one, why haven't they created it yet?
You are taking part in it. The plan is to just replace governments and their creations piece by piece with superior decentralized alternatives. If these alternatives don't get created or adopted, perhaps there is still a need for government intervention in that realm. The idea that everything should be planned out beforehand is for other people to do.
I can see Bitcoin promoting privacy where government does not interfere with the individual without cause, such as taxation without representation. In fact, Bitcoin will probably eliminate the need for national borders and limit the ability of large-scale warfare because money is globally interdependent.
I would like to see a real Libertarian plan for a civilization that would actually work. If there is one, why haven't they created it yet?
That's like asking a Baby in the womb what career they will lead in life.
I would like to see a real Libertarian plan for a civilization that would actually work. If there is one, why haven't they created it yet?
You are taking part in it. The plan is to just replace governments and their creations piece by piece with superior decentralized alternatives. If these alternatives don't get created or adopted, perhaps there is still a need for government intervention in that realm. The idea that everything should be planned out beforehand is for other people to do.
haha, lol. extremely well put!
I would like to see a real Libertarian plan for a civilization that would actually work. If there is one, why haven't they created it yet?
You are taking part in it. The plan is to just replace governments and their creations piece by piece with superior decentralized alternatives. If these alternatives don't get created or adopted, perhaps there is still a need for government intervention in that realm. The idea that everything should be planned out beforehand is for other people to do.
I would like to see a real Libertarian plan for a civilization that would actually work. If there is one, why haven't they created it yet?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism#History
I would like to see a real Libertarian plan for a civilization that would actually work. If there is one, why haven't they created it yet?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism#History
I would like to see a real Libertarian plan for a civilization that would actually work. If there is one, why haven't they created it yet?
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