Topic: Maximum posts allowed per day - page 2. (Read 621 times)

I highly doubt theymos will impose any sort of restriction to the volume of posts a user can make, as we know, and I touched upon it briefly earlier in the thread; people differ on their commitment to the forum. However, an observation I've made is during the earlier years of registering, and when you might say they're most excited about Bitcoin, that's likely when a user posts higher amounts than normal. Doesn't always mean they're spam, but generally when your posting several times an hour, then the quality of the posts go down.

Plus, I wouldn't say the moderators are particularly overworked, so this isn't something to be concerned about. The limiting factor of moderators I would argue is lack of reporting. Obviously, Hilariousandco released some of the reporting statistics recently, and we get thousands every month, but split between a lot of us, and how much quicker it is to handle reports are a moderator, as well as the overall activity of this forum, that isn't an awful lot.

There shouldn't be a maximum post limit. I will explain my reasoning with a question to OP.

You are saying that a posting limitation would reduce spam and the work that moderators have to carry out.

Consider the following:

• User A writes 20 posts per day. All of his posts are good, they don't break any rules, and don't require a moderator's attention.
• User B writes 2 posts per day. Both are spam, off-topic, or posted in the wrong place. They have to be deleted, merged, or moved by moderators.

Which of these two users has created more workload for the forum administration?

Try not to take my posts as official. I'd recommend only taking theymos' word has official, and every other users as their interpretation. Basically, there isn't a whole lot of rules that are set in concrete, and theymos allows personal interpretation of the rules to some degree. Thus, moderators opinions can somewhat differ from time to time. However, if a staff user is wandering a little too far from the guidelines, theymos is likely to give them a message. In fact, I'd describe the vast majority of the standards set by theymos as guidelines, while there only being a few that are enforced like strict rules, i.e plagiarism.

Although, back to the point. What I say is only my interpretation of the broad rules theymos has outlined. Thus, you'll see the ever popular mprep's thread on the unofficial guidelines as exactly that; unofficial.

I guess it depends, however consistently posting that amount is difficult. Though, someone who doesn't have the time restraints that you might have, might actually be able to consistently post over that amount. After all, 11 posts a day isn't that bad at all. Though, it's the consistency part I think most users struggle with, or aren't bothered by. They come here in their spare time, and they might have a lot of spare time on x number of days, and then be completely rammed for time for the other days, thus they might peak higher than 11 posts in a singular day.   

If limits will be imposed, how will you call this forum a place with 'freedom-to-speech'? You can say what you want but try not to spam, and your posts will be good. There are bad members (this isn't about 'member' rank) who play in the dark because they are allowed to have alt accounts here but nobody can find them till they commit mistakes, they also spam to reach their minimum weekly while there are good members too who are helping the community here with their great content, and if they are interested in writing more to serve that to the community, why should they be stopped?

I don't get one thing, this forum gives the freedom, crypto gives the freedom, there are people who are trying to bring you the freedom and people still are looking for limits, control, etc.
Admins, moderators and everyone knows what will prevent spam. Theymos mentioned many times that he wants to set as less limits as possible. Personally, I appreciate this decision. If admins/moderators are having issues, they would create thread and ask us for advises, right?

You are the top poster, acording to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats


There are max posts per day for each member rank on the forum. The max posts per rank can be higher if you are whitelisted.

Personally, the post quota only makes sense for low rank members. Because with Hero or Legendary members, it is unable to hit daily post quota, if they don't use posting bots.

I have been the top one,  but there are a few of us over 30,000 posts.

Not sure if I am no 1 at the moment.

That's it right there, this restrictions were put in place to tackle spams. Besides as a newbie, you shouldn't be posted more instead be reading. By so doing you'll get familiarize with the forum rules and avoid ban appeals in the future. Without the restrictions, newly created account could easily spam theirs malicious sites or scams all over the forum and since moderation isn't automated at the moment and it will take sometime for the reports to be delt with, before then the damage could have been done by the posts.

I think the waiting time between posts should be adjusted. I find it frustrating and a waste of time. I have to wait for 360 seconds after each post to post again. I don't understand the wisdom behind this. To reduce spam?

Technically, there is limit a limit of posts allowed to make per day. Let's say you're Newbie, and you have to wait 360 seconds between posts. There is 86 400 seconds in a day, so, technically you can make 87 posts. For higher ranks wait time between posts is shorter, so you can make much more posts. You can do maths yourself. But for legitimate member such number of posts is impossible to reach.
BTW, it would be interesting to know record how many posts were made per day .

That's true. philipma1957 has the biggest post count among all users of the forum and is followed by BADecker (35,832 posts) and Amph (28,949 posts).

You can see the list of top 1000 users with the highest number of posts in BPIP. (Deleted posts are not counted)

Nah, I don't think a per-day post cap needs to be implemented--or any kind of limit of that kind.  If there's a spammer who's constantly posting the same advertisement across multiple threads, for instance, there'll probably 5-20 members at least who'll be seeing and reporting those posts.  And even if a spammer uses multiple accounts to post the same amount of spam, there are going to be members reporting it--and that's probably a worst-case scenario as far as making too many posts goes. 

If a legitimate member (not a spammer) makes something like 50 posts per day, they're either going to be decent posts or complete crap.  If it's the latter, then those crappy posts are going to get reported to the mods just like the spam in my above example, and the member might get a temp ban.  In any case, there hasn't been a massive problem with low-value members making too many posts in a day, so I don't see any need to impose more restrictions.

My godness, such a huge number of posts you have in the forum? Will it be wrong if I assume you are holding the title of most total post?
I barely create 10+ posts a day; can't even remember if I did ever. I used to spend quite a long time here learning bitcoin and some other technical issue which I didn’t have any idea about. But now, it gets hard to spend such huge time.

I hope the limit on the number of post per day is not enforced in this forum after only newbie or low ranking users get this limit. I don't think we all will really succeed in preventing 100% spam or low value post on forum even if one day the admin agreed to this limit because spam posting is a form of the inability of some poster to write high quality post. There is only one best way if you care about the quality of the post, report it to a moderator and give a reason why the post should be removed.

Well I post like mad.

you could cap 🧢 people with paid signatures to 2x what they need to earn the max for the day.

Ie say you need 30 posts a day to earn max earnings you could be capped to 60 or less.

but that would be a nightmare to check.

I have 37000+ posts in a bit over 9 years.

say 10 a day on average.

10 x 365 = 3650 x 9 = 33000+ so maybe 11 a day.

figure I deleted a few
and mods deleted some.

So 40k posts maybe 41k

so do  we say I do the most per day on average maybe 11 no one should be able to go over 11.

I do not think so. Just report it(spam) and it does go away.

It wouldn't actually reduce spam posts on the forum, and even if you think it will, since the forum is basically for discussing Bitcoin and other interesting topics, these discussions should never be impeded/hampered in a bid to quell spam, imagine good users having to wait for another day to continue an interesting discussion cause they have reached their posting limit for the day, that would be totally annoying. Let's leave spam posts to be reported and deleted, and allow free flowing discussions to continue without any hassle.

In the event that you miss the relevant information related with your question OP, if you click on Charles-Tim url, you'll find this information somewhere in the middle of the thread (regarding "Limits on Posting"):
To answer directly to your question - No there isn't a limit regarding the number of posts that you can make per day, the previous limitation basically refers to a "waiting time" that is applied to users which , depending on their rank, limits the time they have to wait until they can post again. If you had used the search tool available on the forum, you'll eventually find a official reply from Welsh (circa 2017) regarding that topic:
I don't think that limiting users to a particular number of posts is a healthy idea, namely because it leads to some issues such as:

• How would we achieve/set a balanced number of "allowed" posts per day?
• Why would people that actually contribute with good replies / information to the forum be subjected to a limitation on their activity/contributions?
• Isn't one of the purpose of the forum to be as free as possible[1]?

Most spam threads / low effort posting comes from the fact that users simply join to build up a profile to join bounty hunter campaigns and related services (I'm sure that there may be other reasons, but this has to be in the top 3). One could advocate for tighter control for the admission of such campaigns - which would only lead to more entropy being generated due to higher requirements - or we could also discuss the impact of banning such services - which, then again, would go against the idea of the forum being as free as possible. My suggestion? If you see a low effort reply / thread, just report it. If you see another one, report it as well. It's an unbalanced fight, but one that has to happen whenever a forum reaches the places that bitcointalk currently has reached... I'm not saying it's the best solution, but it's one route that we can take without damaging the pillars that sustain our "guidelines" ...

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[1]https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.40849533

I think it is unnecessary to add such a feature to the forum. When I was a newbie there was kind of a limit to my time posting. I had to wait for some minutes before making another post. I hated it. But that's gone now eversince I became a Jr member.
IMO there is nothing wrong in making a hundred posts in a day if they are all quality posts and contribute to forum discussions.

Get all you need from here about posting restrictions.

There are restrictions for low rank members while the restriction are lifted off as the ranking increases. But even with this restriction, the number of post that can be posted within a day can be of no limit, once the posts are constructively written, coherent and quality enough.

But for spammers, you do not have to bother about that, just report any spam post you see at the right lower corner of each post you want to report, moderator will delete it if truly is a spam.

There's no limit and there must not be any limit. If you can make 100 posts a day, there's nothing wrong with that. There are people posting 50/60 or more posts weekly but they are not spam while there are people who posts 10/20 or even less a week but all of them are garbage/spam.
Why would it be limited?