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March 20, 2019, 04:00:40 PM
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March 20, 2019, 09:12:35 AM
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Looking like she will try to get an extension of article 50 which could lead to the embarrassing situation of the UK having to participate in the European elections in May. I hope at least one EU member state has the balls to tell May to fuck off, and let the UK crash out without a deal. That's the best thing that could happen at this point to end all this nonsense and incompetence.

german comedy already tells the brits to get lost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo8Uk9HwU4M&t=289s
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March 19, 2019, 08:14:17 PM
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Looking like she will try to get an extension of article 50 which could lead to the embarrassing situation of the UK having to participate in the European elections in May. I hope at least one EU member state has the balls to tell May to fuck off, and let the UK crash out without a deal. That's the best thing that could happen at this point to end all this nonsense and incompetence.
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March 18, 2019, 07:43:03 PM
#43
this guy is such an idiot, he thinks, communism/nationalism will be strong in uk after they left the EU.

no one knows what uk will be then

Yes we know. It's fairly easy.
UK will be the lapdog of their former colonies, USA's pet.

UE was the only way for them to get independant from USA, they're leaving, they fall under their new master.

They have NOTHING without USA. No trade, no protection, no army, no nuclear bomb...

another proof for british idiocity, which they proof themselves.

if you read their newspaper, they think may/the leader is the problem, when negotiating with the eu, they think a different leader can get better deals, they act as if they would do a deal with some illiterate tribes in america/africa, and not a deal with an economic block of 500 million with biggest world market.

but its a very precise heuristics done by the leaders, according to economic interests of 500 million people, that everything that counts in that deal.

whats next sending uk topmodels to try to seduce the EU negotiators? they are so naive,

they are so stupid. they act in a way that is completely unprofessional.
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March 18, 2019, 05:56:23 AM
#42

UK will be the lapdog of their former colonies, USA's pet.


Actually it is the other way around, but it depends on how you define the UK and the US. The Committee 300 started by Cecil Rhodes is still in control of most of the Western World - Washington, The EU and the City of London are their control mechanisms. The British Crown still has power over some minor US statutes I believe, and this is the result of loans granted during the US civil war. The UK Intelligence Initiative seems to have been the organisation that was influencing American politics, and not the Russians. You may also reflect on where all the capital outflows from the US end up. It is in the tax havens that form the modern British Empire.

[UPDATE]

I gather that Bercow ( The Speaker ) has ruled that May can't resubmit the EU created "deal". With the comments about the reason Australia and Canada ordered the Type 26 frigates, it's looking as if my comment from months ago may have some substance. I suggested that they were going to shove the EU under the bus to get rid of the debts, and expand the British Commonwealth as an alternative.
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March 18, 2019, 05:32:40 AM
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this guy is such an idiot, he thinks, communism/nationalism will be strong in uk after they left the EU.

no one knows what uk will be then

Yes we know. It's fairly easy.
UK will be the lapdog of their former colonies, USA's pet.

UE was the only way for them to get independant from USA, they're leaving, they fall under their new master.

They have NOTHING without USA. No trade, no protection, no army, no nuclear bomb...
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March 17, 2019, 12:40:48 PM
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Just what do British want exactly?

We want our country back, and then we can reverse the decline that the EU has caused. The RU has had it. They've been letting the Chinese buy the ports in their member states ( countries ), because the states needed money to pay the tythes to the ruling bankers, and to support the profligate EU administration. Now the Chinese are starting to lean of the slave states to influence members of the EU parliament.

We want to be out of the whole corrupt, greedy organisation.

I forget to mention that we can come out of the EU under article 24. This means that we keep the same trade deals for 10 years, but not the other stuff.

this guy is such an idiot, he thinks, communism/nationalism will be strong in uk after they left the EU.

no one knows what uk will be then

1. a christian kingdom?
2. white national socialism?
3. communism with countless unsuccessful icos?
4. a chinese/indian/muslim colony?

what i also would love to know is, is brexit a white nationalist movement?

when you left the EU you will have at least a 50% PRO EU opposition in your country. thoset want to sell stuff into EU and want to have nothing to do with their communist/nationalist government in londo, because they dont want to not live in extreme poverty.

The EU has a lot of Economic Power, its big, its technically advanced, its productive.
regards
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March 17, 2019, 12:31:56 PM
#39
Oh, please, no delays! Let's get it over and done with already.

Brexit was only going to be the start. What it has done is to expose and publicise the activities of the Committee 300. They control Westminster, Washington and the British Civil Service. The Koch brothers are part of the Committee, and it is now apparent that they are the dynasty that is pushing Washington into war over Venezuela, The good news is that the people of the US are joining the groundswell that seeks to break the dominance of the Committee. If the UK does stay in the EU with voting rights it will be mayhem, and they will be active in seeking to destroy the EU, and it won't be difficult given the populist revolution. Greece is an example of the results of giving in to those who control the EU.
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March 17, 2019, 11:40:30 AM
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I'm quite encouraged at the moment. I've watched quite a few videos of interviews with small business owners, and I've phoned a few people. The general impression that I get is that they have all prepared for a true Brexit, which was the only option in the referendum, apart from staying in with no change of course. It looks as if the government is actually planning for this, and have reduced tariffs to boost the economy. This appears to be contrary to most of the reported facts and poll results. I have yet to find anyone who wants us to remain with the proposed government treaty, but my contacts may not be representative of the country as a whole. It certainly represents a majority of those who were born in Britain, and have a primary allegiance to the country.

That seems to be my impression from overseas as well. It seems to me most of the types who want to remain are the kind who just repeat what is on their TV all the time mindlessly or they are just tired of the conflict and don't care to think about the consequences.

in sweden all anti EU movements disappeared with brexit. you must be on the right path. then....
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March 17, 2019, 11:05:33 AM
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Oh, please, no delays! Let's get it over and done with already. I have mastered Amazon.de and Ebay.de, so no more need for delay as far as I am concerned. Grin
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March 17, 2019, 10:15:50 AM
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Well we are starting to see the protests over the delays, and there is a threat the lorry drivers will combine to block the main arterial roads if Brexit is delayed. It seems that Brexit has become the red herring to divert attention from the Italian banking crisis. Brexit won't bring down the Euro and the EU, but an Italian banking collapse could well be the beginning of the end.
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March 16, 2019, 01:35:52 PM
#35
germany heute show message to britain 15.03.2019 (yesterday)

you can use translate function

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTL_4NQRBoo&t=168s
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March 15, 2019, 07:10:22 PM
#34
I'm quite encouraged at the moment. I've watched quite a few videos of interviews with small business owners, and I've phoned a few people. The general impression that I get is that they have all prepared for a true Brexit, which was the only option in the referendum, apart from staying in with no change of course. It looks as if the government is actually planning for this, and have reduced tariffs to boost the economy. This appears to be contrary to most of the reported facts and poll results. I have yet to find anyone who wants us to remain with the proposed government treaty, but my contacts may not be representative of the country as a whole. It certainly represents a majority of those who were born in Britain, and have a primary allegiance to the country.

That seems to be my impression from overseas as well. It seems to me most of the types who want to remain are the kind who just repeat what is on their TV all the time mindlessly or they are just tired of the conflict and don't care to think about the consequences.
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March 15, 2019, 12:14:33 PM
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I'm quite encouraged at the moment. I've watched quite a few videos of interviews with small business owners, and I've phoned a few people. The general impression that I get is that they have all prepared for a true Brexit, which was the only option in the referendum, apart from staying in with no change of course. It looks as if the government is actually planning for this, and have reduced tariffs to boost the economy. This appears to be contrary to most of the reported facts and poll results. I have yet to find anyone who wants us to remain with the proposed government treaty, but my contacts may not be representative of the country as a whole. It certainly represents a majority of those who were born in Britain, and have a primary allegiance to the country.
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March 15, 2019, 09:44:10 AM
#32
Just what do British want exactly?

We want our country back, and then we can reverse the decline that the EU has caused. The RU has had it. They've been letting the Chinese buy the ports in their member states ( countries ), because the states needed money to pay the tythes to the ruling bankers, and to support the profligate EU administration. Now the Chinese are starting to lean of the slave states to influence members of the EU parliament.

We want to be out of the whole corrupt, greedy organisation.

I forget to mention that we can come out of the EU under article 24. This means that we keep the same trade deals for 10 years, but not the other stuff.

chinese buying ports wont change a lot, they have to run them.
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March 15, 2019, 07:39:20 AM
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Sargon does a good breakdown of the current situation IMO.


It's certainly a good explanation, but he doesn't take it to the next level. The ministers in Westminster are not incompetent or working against their country. Their country is the City of London, and that controls the EU. A true Brexit is just the start, we have to get rid of the treasonous Eton/Oxford elite in the Civil Service and Westminster once we have regained self-determination. Theresa May is a graduate of St Hugh's, Oxford, where she gained a 2nd class degree in Geography. Amongst other jobs, she has worked for the Bank of England.

Britain purports to be a democracy, but the real truth is that unless you have political ideas that are acceptable to the City of London rulers, you will have difficult in gaining a nomination in any of the major political parties.

I believe that a WTO exit is still the most probable result. There may not be any time left for any other option. There doesn't seem to be much mention of a restriction that I believe binds the activities of a British government. This is that a government cannot bind its successors in an unbreakable treaty, and, if this is so, then May's deal could be determined to be Ultra Vires.
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March 15, 2019, 07:08:35 AM
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The EU is a minor trading partner of the UK, and most of the  EU commercial banking is routed through the City of London. I think they are extremely concerned about having to renegotiate toxic derivative agreements based on LIBOR.
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March 15, 2019, 05:19:41 AM
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I should have asked differently. What do the MPs want? It looks like an inoperative institution by now.

Sargon does a good breakdown of the current situation IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxcaxweRZYM

In summary everyone is between a rock and a hard place. The MP's don't want to be the ones with their names on what will result in years of financial chaos. By financial chaos I mean punitive measures the EU bureaucrats inflict in an attempt to force compliance with its own dictates. This is a push toward globalism, and the people of the U.K. have voted to retain their national sovereignty. This will have serious ramifications on the ability of the rest of the EU to function as well, and could vary well lead to its collapse as a bureaucratic supranational entity.
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March 15, 2019, 05:06:45 AM
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I should have asked differently. What do the MPs want? It looks like an inoperative institution by now.

That's a very complex topic to answer. England has a very complex social structure, and it became more polarised as a result of the abolition of grammar schools. The ruling "class" still keeps the old British Empire alive, and they now seem to regard the City of London as their country and the UK and the EU member countries as income sources and providers of assets. They control the British parliament, as well as the EU. The British Crown still has a number of global powers, for example, The Queen is still able to enact certain statutes in the US, and this goes back to the financing by the crown of both sides in the Civil War. It's the old  trick of taking assets or rights in settlement of debts.

At the moment it is not clear how the hands on the tiller are going to steer the ship in the future. There are a few clues though. The increased military spending in the US and the UK, and the disregard for social and economic projects indicates one aspect of future emphasis. The types of weapons are also significant - the type 26 frigate that is being added to the navies of the UK, Canada and Australia seem more suited to the protection and occupation of smaller islands and countries, than major international conflicts.

It is difficult to see how an unprepared complete break with the EU can be avoided. Because the 2 years that was designed to allow for an orderly re-arrangement has been abused by attempts to change the result of the referendum, the government has done nothing to create a sensible trading environment, and neither has the EU. No doubt they planned for chaos, and thus the ability to step in and "restructure" the country. Hopefully, we will be able to avoid this, and to get rid of the career politicians with no credentials other than a ppe from Oxford.
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March 15, 2019, 05:00:43 AM
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It looks like an inoperative institution by now.

If it looks like shit
It tastes like shit
It smells like shit

It's probably shit.
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