Topic: May loses the Brexit vote. - page 2. (Read 477 times)

I should have asked differently. What do the MPs want? It looks like an inoperative institution by now.

We want our country back, and then we can reverse the decline that the EU has caused. The RU has had it. They've been letting the Chinese buy the ports in their member states ( countries ), because the states needed money to pay the tythes to the ruling bankers, and to support the profligate EU administration. Now the Chinese are starting to lean of the slave states to influence members of the EU parliament.

We want to be out of the whole corrupt, greedy organisation.

I forget to mention that we can come out of the EU under article 24. This means that we keep the same trade deals for 10 years, but not the other stuff.

Just what do British want exactly?

Ir was fairly simple - we had a referendum, and we were told that "Brexit means Brexit". In breach of parliamentary regulations, the government printed a load of leaflets, and spent a lot of money to try to influence the country to stay. The country voted to leave, and the legally binding rules for leaving state that there should be a two year period to negotiate any new trading agreements. A remainer was appointed as prime minister, and the civil service and most politicians worked to try to reverse the result of the referendum. We are now in the position we were in when article 50 was triggered, but we no longer have the two year period to negotiate the new trade deals. The only advantage of this delay is that it has shown up many of the treasonous politicians and civil servants. Rhe question is - will we have a new government that is strong enough to "drain the swamp".

Much work seems to have been done to create a new British Commonwealth ( read British Empire ), and the military seems to be being strengthened to support this. This year will be an eventful one with the problems in France, Italy, Germany and Spain. Also there are the flash points in Venezuela, Iran, Saudi Arabia, the South China Seas, and many other locations. You can expect Britain to continue to be active in all of those potential war theatres.

Things look a little messy with the brexit thing going on, but a clever Brit will put Marmite on the bread and keep the Worcester sauce to spice up a dreadful but healthy Brussels Sprouts soup.

It seems that UK fall in the ''Twilight zone'' without way out.
Their politicians are really not responsible and smart and they will bring whole country to chaos.
I had respect before to this country but now it's to funny ti watch their debates in the parliament.
I hope they will weak up and do the ''right thing'' accept only realistic and possible solution, Brexit plan negotiated between EU and their government or this will become worse tragedy.

you overestimate yourselves, as soon as the eu banks get punished by the population they will develop their own standards, besides banks lose meaning in EU and in UK

after brexit you will eat bread with worcester sauce

I'm starting to believe that the original plan once the surprise result was known, was to push for an unplanned WTO exit. This was to be designed to create massive disruption, and then allow the bankers to return with a new plan for the British Commonwealth. We now see that defence spending is increasing, and exports of world class weapons such as the type 26 frigate are increasing. The plan is obviously to create a much stronger Britain with its own pseud-independence. The battle now is to gain real independence

The banking issues are real red herrings. Most EU derivatives are based on LIBOR, and the EU doesn't have a common language, although there was talk that they should adopt English, what an irony. The bankers are not going to move out of the City of London, and many seem to consider that it is more important than Wall Street in international finance. Banks will no doubt expand branch offices in the EU, but most of the derivatives markets are routed through London, and it will be a massive cost to change this. Sterling also has a stronger and more stable future than the debt ridden Euro, so why would they want to embrace a dying asset. The Euro was a great creation to continue the expansion of the German economy, but it looks as if it has served its purpose, and Italy and other countries will probably bring it down. That is without even considering the impact of the failure of Deutschebank.

With regard to tax havens. During the period of the decline of the British Empire, the wealthy elite created a complex structure of trusts, and there were written into UK law. Most of the Western World's wealth is hidden and accumulated in these, and this won't be changed. They are the reason that the world's truly wealthy families and dynasties don't appear in the rich lists.

Third if I may
https://www.statista.com/statistics/316691/european-union-eu-budget-share-of-contributions/
But that's nontheless a very important member of the EU no doubt.
Not quite simply because UK Brexit was a surprise but the fact that UK wasn't really a full member isn't new. Most companies have finished a Brexit plan and the leave of UK won't be too much of a hit for a group of 27 countries.
All of them having already set up new organizations in Ireland or Monaco. They're not the only tax heaven in Europe.
This is just conspiracy crap thrown without real purpose.
That's false, Britain will be massively stronger once it shakes off the EU AND ITS CURRENT GOVERNMENT FORM! Most people in the EU blame the EU but that's dumb, they should blame their government. EU already gives shit tons of tools to enforce important policies for your country and you have no obligation to do most of what the EU decides. People tend to believe that there is no longer power in local governments and everything is in Bruxelles but that's completely wrong. There are tons of local power simply the parasites in power are far too happy to comply with EU leeching policies.

Leaving EU isn't a final solution, it's just the beginning :/
Which is the case for most European powers and is just the result of incredible technological advantage. Nothing to be proud of.

Nevertheless I wish all the best for UK people and hope you'll get rid of ALL parasites and not just leave EU and do nothing more believing it's over.

You've just started a war, Brexit is a first win, an incredible one, a needed one but it's just a first battle

Good luck <3

as far as i know EU burocracy, the no deal default outcome is 100% sure

and i am fine this way, the brits are in an foreign trade defizit with the EU, they are effectively a burden

I still think that they're going to force a referendum or something at the last minute. For example, tomorrow Parliament will probably vote to extend, but then the EU will require a second referendum as a condition for extension. And brexit will lose in a referendum.

In the unlikely event that no-deal brexit actually happens (which IMO is the best long-term result for the UK), I'll strongly suspect that this was May's plan all along, explaining all of her weird behavior, and I will be very impressed.

It will be interesting to see how they handle a possible extension. If it is for more than 3 months, then the UK will be electing members to the EU parliament, and they will stay there for 5 years. Can you image the fun if all the UK members are anti the European Union, and despite the media reports, most of Britain is anti-EU. Then Britain leaves a few months afterwards, and the EU has to put up with all those anti-EU members from a country that is no longer a part of the EU.

[17:30 UPDATE]

Theresa May has refused to allow a motion to rule out a "No Deal" Brexit.

Other keypoints so far in the debate.

- Theresa May says she will vote against no-deal Brexit

- Jeremy Corbyn tells prime minister: 'This is no way to run a country'

- Philip Hammond slashes growth forecast and issues fresh warning over no-deal Brexit

- Tariffs on most imports to be scrapped if there is no-deal outcome, government says

- No Brexit is a bigger risk than no-deal, Stephen Barclay says

everybody ignores everyone else who doesnt support ones agenda, and spamms into his channels. nowadays.

ignoring me will lead you to basically mis a lot of information,

-> EU doesnt need foreign trade deficit britain.

complaining about burocracy in EU is one thing, leaving it is something else.

let the british now eat their worcester bread.

No one knows how politicians think.
 Is it prudent not to leave the European Union? What will happen in the future?
 Just watch.

I can't reply to the Royal Scorpio as I have been ignoring him for a few months. He seemed to base his info on Fox news and CNN.

I've just been watching this video from an "Anonymous", and I won't venture an opinion as I have mixed reactions. It discusses Brexit, Russia, Washington, Trump and a few other things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD3yX708UDQ

uk is also communist burocracy, not just EU,

the big difference is, the EU produces the value of the stuff it consumes itself and isn't depending on foreigners

if something is disintegrating in europe than its the uk. soon scotland, north ireland and wales will be part of eu.

and english will eat their worcestersauce bread sandwiches.

people will flee uk communism like they flead soviet communism

It will be interesting to see how the vote today goes. If they block UK independence, and insist on the uncertainty of staying under the control of the bankrupt and disintegrating EU, then I suspect we will see an increase in the activities of the yellow vests that have already arrived in England. The real sadness is that 2 years of negotiating have been wasted. That could have been spent in arranging trade deals with the countries in the EU who have suffered under its rule.

  keep dreaming.

and get used to bread and worcester sauce.

you langauge reminds me on communism and nazi-ism