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Quote from: MegaDice on January 23, 2020, 09:31:03 AM

You are welcome.
MegaDice is happy to provide any proof from both our servers to any regulatory or Official authority and we will cooperate with them in order to prove our position.

Have you sent everything off to the authorities in Curacao eGaming?

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Quote from: JollyGood on January 22, 2020, 05:35:20 PM

Quote from: MegaDice on January 22, 2020, 05:23:46 PM

Quote from: JollyGood on January 22, 2020, 09:45:46 AM

MegaDice, kindly stop this and pay the OP the +19 BTC.

I kindly requested this before and repeat again, it will be the end of the matter because I am sure the OP will not post here again and you can go back to running your website.

This whole issue is putting your business in a very bad light and there is still time to resolve this issue before more and more people become aware of what happened and you will not be able to stop them posting here or in other forums/websites as well as no longer being your customers.

Please look at the bigger picture and come to a private resolution with the OP, I am sure you two can work it out and then we can all move on a along as the basis of the resolution is the OP receiving the +19 BTC he is rightfully owed. Thank you.

Thank you for trying to find a solution. We are sorry but we cannot give anything to a player who has wagered all his balance.
We are happy, again, to provide any proof from both our servers to any regulatory or Official authority and we will cooperate with them in order to prove our position.

I appreciate your response. Trying to find a solution to any and all issues is paramount, having said that I am very disappointed in your decision but thank you for clarifying your position.

Sadly it means the OP will have to go through the process of either starting legal proceedings against MegaDice or will have to simply let the process play out at the Curacao eGaming arbiter before contemplating their next step.

You are welcome.
MegaDice is happy to provide any proof from both our servers to any regulatory or Official authority and we will cooperate with them in order to prove our position.

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Quote from: MegaDice on January 22, 2020, 05:23:46 PM

Quote from: JollyGood on January 22, 2020, 09:45:46 AM

MegaDice, kindly stop this and pay the OP the +19 BTC.

I kindly requested this before and repeat again, it will be the end of the matter because I am sure the OP will not post here again and you can go back to running your website.

This whole issue is putting your business in a very bad light and there is still time to resolve this issue before more and more people become aware of what happened and you will not be able to stop them posting here or in other forums/websites as well as no longer being your customers.

Please look at the bigger picture and come to a private resolution with the OP, I am sure you two can work it out and then we can all move on a along as the basis of the resolution is the OP receiving the +19 BTC he is rightfully owed. Thank you.

Thank you for trying to find a solution. We are sorry but we cannot give anything to a player who has wagered all his balance.
We are happy, again, to provide any proof from both our servers to any regulatory or Official authority and we will cooperate with them in order to prove our position.

I appreciate your response. Trying to find a solution to any and all issues is paramount, having said that I am very disappointed in your decision but thank you for clarifying your position.

Sadly it means the OP will have to go through the process of either starting legal proceedings against MegaDice or will have to simply let the process play out at the Curacao eGaming arbiter before contemplating their next step.

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Quote from: JollyGood on January 22, 2020, 09:45:46 AM

Quote from: MegaDice on January 22, 2020, 07:05:47 AM

Quote from: newalias on January 22, 2020, 06:59:47 AM

Quote from: AlexSimion on January 22, 2020, 06:41:04 AM

Megadice has said that they're willing to provide the ip logs of that session as long as you agree on it . [...] Aswell give the all clear for Megadice to release the logs and that's it , end of story.

They do not know what they want, current status quo is this:

Quote from: MegaDice on January 21, 2020, 05:10:45 PM

MegaDice are deeply concerned for the privacy of each player, thus posting the Amazon's full logs in this forum would expose private information and other players Data/IPs. This is something we do not want to do.

We wanted initially to post The official untouched AWS logs, but those contain sensitive data (such as IPs) of many other users and it would not be wise to supply this publicly. We have no problem, to supply them in any other Regulatory party (like we did for eGaming) when asked, though.

As we already stated, we are in communication with Curacao eGaming about your case, and supplying them with the proof that they need. The proof that we have is Official logs, which can be verified-certified by AWS, regarding its authenticity. The AWS logs matches the timestamps of our Rounds logs, as we again stated above. Your ISP logs, in combination with AWS logs will be more than sufficient proof for us. If you need anything more about your case, you can contact Curacao eGaming directly.

MegaDice, kindly stop this and pay the OP the +19 BTC.

I kindly requested this before and repeat again, it will be the end of the matter because I am sure the OP will not post here again and you can go back to running your website.

This whole issue is putting your business in a very bad light and there is still time to resolve this issue before more and more people become aware of what happened and you will not be able to stop them posting here or in other forums/websites as well as no longer being your customers.

Please look at the bigger picture and come to a private resolution with the OP, I am sure you two can work it out and then we can all move on a along as the basis of the resolution is the OP receiving the +19 BTC he is rightfully owed. Thank you.

Thank you for trying to find a solution. We are sorry but we cannot give anything to a player who has wagered all his balance.
We are happy, again, to provide any proof from both our servers to any regulatory or Official authority and we will cooperate with them in order to prove our position.

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Quote from: TMAN on January 22, 2020, 09:14:28 AM

Quote from: newalias on January 22, 2020, 09:11:33 AM

Quote from: MegaDice on January 21, 2020, 03:50:21 PM

There is nothing we ignore.

Cold storage? Wink

Liars. Go fuck yourself.

and the falsified logs with the before and after balance being exactly the same

Falsified logs ?!

We already mentioned above what the start_balance and end_balance means, but lets do it one more time with an example...

EXAMPLE:
newalias has balance of 1.1 BTC
newalias bets 0.1BTC on this spin
newalias loses the bet.

The above EXAMPLE will have this round log:
{
"round_id" : "ROUND_ID",
"time" : "DATE",
"bet" : 100.00,
"win" : 0.00000000,
"start_balance" : 1000.00000000,
"end_balance" : 1000.00000000
},

In case you missed it, the above values are in mBTC.
1BTC=1000mbtc
0.1BTC=100mbtc

START_BALANCE is the balance AFTER the wager.
END_BALANCE is the balance AFTER the win.

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Quote from: game-protect on January 22, 2020, 10:44:18 AM

Quote from: MegaDice on January 22, 2020, 07:05:47 AM

We wanted initially to post The official untouched AWS logs,

So you have untouched AWS logs and manipulated AWS logs you sent to your partner in crime Curacao eGaming?

Untouched logs = Logs taken "as is" from the AWS, without us filtering the calls made from newalias or without filtering the calls made from his IP. Its the logs for the whole day.

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Quote from: MegaDice on January 22, 2020, 07:05:47 AM

We wanted initially to post The official untouched AWS logs,

So you have untouched AWS logs and manipulated AWS logs you sent to your partner in crime Curacao eGaming?

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Quote from: MegaDice on January 22, 2020, 07:05:47 AM

Quote from: newalias on January 22, 2020, 06:59:47 AM

Quote from: AlexSimion on January 22, 2020, 06:41:04 AM

Megadice has said that they're willing to provide the ip logs of that session as long as you agree on it . [...] Aswell give the all clear for Megadice to release the logs and that's it , end of story.

They do not know what they want, current status quo is this:

Quote from: MegaDice on January 21, 2020, 05:10:45 PM

MegaDice are deeply concerned for the privacy of each player, thus posting the Amazon's full logs in this forum would expose private information and other players Data/IPs. This is something we do not want to do.

We wanted initially to post The official untouched AWS logs, but those contain sensitive data (such as IPs) of many other users and it would not be wise to supply this publicly. We have no problem, to supply them in any other Regulatory party (like we did for eGaming) when asked, though.

As we already stated, we are in communication with Curacao eGaming about your case, and supplying them with the proof that they need. The proof that we have is Official logs, which can be verified-certified by AWS, regarding its authenticity. The AWS logs matches the timestamps of our Rounds logs, as we again stated above. Your ISP logs, in combination with AWS logs will be more than sufficient proof for us. If you need anything more about your case, you can contact Curacao eGaming directly.

MegaDice, kindly stop this and pay the OP the +19 BTC.

I kindly requested this before and repeat again, it will be the end of the matter because I am sure the OP will not post here again and you can go back to running your website.

This whole issue is putting your business in a very bad light and there is still time to resolve this issue before more and more people become aware of what happened and you will not be able to stop them posting here or in other forums/websites as well as no longer being your customers.

Please look at the bigger picture and come to a private resolution with the OP, I am sure you two can work it out and then we can all move on a along as the basis of the resolution is the OP receiving the +19 BTC he is rightfully owed. Thank you.

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Quote from: newalias on January 22, 2020, 09:11:33 AM

Quote from: MegaDice on January 21, 2020, 03:50:21 PM

There is nothing we ignore.

Cold storage? Wink

Liars. Go fuck yourself.

and the falsified logs with the before and after balance being exactly the same

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Quote from: MegaDice on January 21, 2020, 03:50:21 PM

There is nothing we ignore.

Cold storage? Wink

Liars. Go fuck yourself.

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Quote from: newalias on January 22, 2020, 06:59:47 AM

Quote from: AlexSimion on January 22, 2020, 06:41:04 AM

Megadice has said that they're willing to provide the ip logs of that session as long as you agree on it . [...] Aswell give the all clear for Megadice to release the logs and that's it , end of story.

They do not know what they want, current status quo is this:

Quote from: MegaDice on January 21, 2020, 05:10:45 PM

MegaDice are deeply concerned for the privacy of each player, thus posting the Amazon's full logs in this forum would expose private information and other players Data/IPs. This is something we do not want to do.

We wanted initially to post The official untouched AWS logs, but those contain sensitive data (such as IPs) of many other users and it would not be wise to supply this publicly. We have no problem, to supply them in any other Regulatory party (like we did for eGaming) when asked, though.

As we already stated, we are in communication with Curacao eGaming about your case, and supplying them with the proof that they need. The proof that we have is Official logs, which can be verified-certified by AWS, regarding its authenticity. The AWS logs matches the timestamps of our Rounds logs, as we again stated above. Your ISP logs, in combination with AWS logs will be more than sufficient proof for us. If you need anything more about your case, you can contact Curacao eGaming directly.

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Quote from: AlexSimion on January 22, 2020, 06:41:04 AM

Megadice has said that they're willing to provide the ip logs of that session as long as you agree on it . [...] Aswell give the all clear for Megadice to release the logs and that's it , end of story.

They do not know what they want, current status quo is this:

Quote from: MegaDice on January 21, 2020, 05:10:45 PM

MegaDice are deeply concerned for the privacy of each player, thus posting the Amazon's full logs in this forum would expose private information and other players Data/IPs. This is something we do not want to do.

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Isn't it there a more simple way to prove who's right and who's lyeing here ? Megadice has said that they're willing to provide the ip logs of that session as long as you agree on it . In the same time you can ask for your logs from your internet provider etc . And if it's indeed your ip logged-on during the session megadice says you played the 19 BTC then that's that . Why the constant push back and forward etc . Over 19 BTC I assume you'd be willing to ask for your logs from your internet service provider . Aswell give the all clear for Megadice to release the logs and that's it , end of story.

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Quote from: JollyGood on January 21, 2020, 08:57:41 PM

It seems MegaDice have been active with the gaming licence issuer and will fight their corner. Rather you spend money and instruct a lawyer maybe you should contact the gaming licence authorities in Curacao and liaise with them until they actually make a decision about whether MegaDice should ensure you get your 19+ BTC or not. After all, if they decide in your favour then you would have saved all that money and hassle with the lawyer and investigation.

No doubt you will proceed as you see best but I gave my advice on the subject.

That would be the best solution, but Curacao eGaming is not able to answer my emails since weeks...

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Quote from: MegaDice on January 21, 2020, 05:11:25 PM

~snip~

If "newalias" would like to get ahold of each and every log, he can contact directly the Official Regulator (Curacao eGaming) and ask them about logs, they get anything they ask for from us.

@ OP

It seems MegaDice have been active with the gaming licence issuer and will fight their corner. Rather you spend money and instruct a lawyer maybe you should contact the gaming licence authorities in Curacao and liaise with them until they actually make a decision about whether MegaDice should ensure you get your 19+ BTC or not. After all, if they decide in your favour then you would have saved all that money and hassle with the lawyer and investigation.

No doubt you will proceed as you see best but I gave my advice on the subject.

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Quote from: MegaDice on January 21, 2020, 05:11:25 PM

We are in constant and in direct communication with Curacao eGaming Regulator. We are supplying them with the Round Logs, Wallet Operator Logs, and Official Amazon AWS logs. Those logs (Amazon's) reside built-in the Amazon infrastructure, meaning that Amazon could verify its integrity.
The Amazon logs are consistent with our Wallet and Round logs.

My statement referred to the official Amazon AWS logs.

Quote from: MegaDice on January 21, 2020, 05:11:25 PM

MegaDice are deeply concerned for the privacy of each player, thus posting the Amazon's full logs in this forum would expose private information and other players Data/IPs. This is something we do not want to do.

First you offered to do it with the consent of newalias and after my clarification you withdraw your offer?

Quote from: MegaDice on January 20, 2020, 10:49:56 AM

Please give us your written consent to post publicly our ACCESS LOGS, which includes your IP and other info about you and also prove that you never stopped gambling.

Looks like you are lying!

Quote from: MegaDice on January 21, 2020, 05:11:25 PM

If "newalias" would like to get ahold of each and every log, he can contact directly the Official Regulator (Curacao eGaming) and ask them about logs, they get anything they ask for from us.

Curacao eGaming is a criminal and anonymous venture and not an Official Regulator as you false and misleading claim! Roll Eyes

Curacao does not have any regulator for online games of chance!

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We are in constant and in direct communication with Curacao eGaming Regulator. We are supplying them with the Round Logs, Wallet Operator Logs, and Official Amazon AWS logs. Those logs (Amazon's) reside built-in the Amazon infrastructure, meaning that Amazon could verify its integrity.
The Amazon logs are consistent with our Wallet and Round logs.

MegaDice are deeply concerned for the privacy of each player, thus posting the Amazon's full logs in this forum would expose private information and other players Data/IPs. This is something we do not want to do.

If "newalias" would like to get ahold of each and every log, he can contact directly the Official Regulator (Curacao eGaming) and ask them about logs, they get anything they ask for from us.

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Quote from: newalias on January 20, 2020, 12:54:44 PM

Quote from: game-protect on January 20, 2020, 10:48:20 AM

During the legal proceeding the lawyer can request the server logs from AWS directly and then the truth would come to light.

I am not sure about that, as I do not know their setup. If they just use EC2 or something like that, the logs are saved only on their own server.

AWS is based in the US and has to store the server logs for a while by laws. The lawyer can request it with a subpoena if necessary.

But first Megadice needs to prove that you continued to play, what I have not seen so far.

I only have seen code every coder could write with hands. Maybe that is why they needed so long to answer! Grin

Megadice is obligated by Curacao online casino laws to store your betting history for a while and forward it on request.

Where are the server logs?

Here is info about Amazon EC2

Quote

The Amazon EC2 instances in your Elastic Beanstalk environment generate logs that you can view to troubleshoot issues with your application or configuration files. Logs created by the web server, application server, Elastic Beanstalk platform scripts, and AWS CloudFormation are stored locally on individual instances. You can easily retrieve them by using the environment management console or the EB CLI. You can also configure your environment to stream logs to Amazon CloudWatch Logs in real time.

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Quote from: newalias on January 20, 2020, 12:54:44 PM

Quote from: game-protect on January 20, 2020, 10:48:20 AM

During the legal proceeding the lawyer can request the server logs from AWS directly and then the truth would come to light.

I am not sure about that, as I do not know their setup. If they just use EC2 or something like that, the logs are saved only on their own server.

Quote from: newalias on January 19, 2020, 04:29:06 PM

How can "start_balance" be the same as "end_balance", when a bet is made and there was no win? The win needs to be "10" to have the same balance before and after the bet.

That is what TMAN means. You ignored my request to explain that, as you always ignore requests that make you problems (cold storage...).

EDIT:
Logs have been archived: https://archive.is/FRTs3

There is nothing we ignore. We already mentioned above what the start_balance and end_balance means, but lets do it one more time with an example...

EXAMPLE:

newalias has balance of 1.1 BTC
newalias bets 0.1BTC on this spin
newalias loses the bet.

The above EXAMPLE will have this round log:
   {
      "round_id" : "ROUND_ID",
      "time" : "DATE",
      "bet" : 100.00,
      "win" : 0.00000000,
      "start_balance" : 1000.00000000,
      "end_balance" : 1000.00000000
   },

In case you missed it, the above values are in mBTC.
1BTC=1000mbtc
0.1BTC=100mbtc

START_BALANCE is the balance AFTER the wager.
END_BALANCE is the balance AFTER the win.

Let me know if there is anything else you may want us to explain.

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Quote from: newalias on January 20, 2020, 02:19:20 PM

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start a thread in investigations bud, I am sure some of the clever guys here will be able to dox the owners. keep it all in the investigations sub though, any dox posted outside of there is against the rules.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=227.0

don't engage twatprotect no matter how nice the offer sounds,

best of luck

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