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January 20, 2020, 03:19:20 PM
#70
Well, he should have stopped gambling but since he was winning he may have thought that he can win even more than 19BTC. He started very low and then he had many chances to stop at 6BTC, then at 12BTC and then at 19BTC. Many gamblers would have stopped at 6BTC, almost everyone at 12BTC and for sure everyone at 19BTC.

You missed out one thing: I tried to make these balances round (6.00 BTC, 12.00 BTC) and got free spins very fast again. This catapulted me to almost 20 BTC, which is a huge amount of money. After having this unbelievable luck two times, I stopped gambling. And I am able to swear that and testify it under oath.

I would still recommend that MegaDice please reconsider their position. If they simply cite this was a case of misunderstanding and some technical or human error and release the funds owed to the OP, then I am sure the OP will not be posting about this subject again and we can all continue as before.

Maybe something happened, maybe something went wrong and they have stated the OP is not due the 19+ BTC. I hope this matter is not going to get dragged out over a long period of time.

Please MegaDice, is there a way this issue can be resolved between you and the OP which results in the OP receiving the 19+ BTC that he is entitled to and completed sooner rather than later?

There is no proof at all that MegaDice is even able to pay that amount of Bitcoin. They ignored all requests about proving cold storage. I think they just run out of funds, they are just not able to pay. I do not know why they are posting here, maybe they want to rehabilitate their page to finance their livelihood - who knows.

As I invested more than enough time in this case, I make you one final offer, attached to an ultimatum: You pay me the amount of 15 BTC. I am able to renounce on the rest, just because it saves me time, nerves and money. Maybe that is an amount you can pay, but I will not go under it. This is a thing I can come towards you, even though there is no reason for it.

You have 72 hours starting now to pay me. Everyone can track it on the blockchain, as the blockchain is transparent (your site is not). If the payment is received, I will delete the flag, as I would forgave the act because it is a step in the right direction. My bitcoin address is 1M2utnNJMCv9uCVoG5CBXyLyqShx9D5A85.

If you decide against the payment, just let me say that I have done another decision for that case: I will mandate a lawyer. I am in Bitcoin since several years, so I have the money to conduct legal proceedings in Curacao. I do not know how it is in Curacao, but in Germany, there mostly is no clear winner of court process - in the end, both parties have to make concessions. But a court process will allow me to check in detail your "evidence", having specialists checking all your fishy logs. And if you are lying again in the court process, this will also have personal consequences for you, as it is a crime in the most jurisdictions (and I am sure you already committed several crimes like fraud with your answers and fake logs). Last but not least, I will stop you from operating MegaDice. Either Curacao eGaming will revoke your license after this, or your company is not able to pay and will be insolvent. If you are still not paying your debts and spreading fake news, I will fuck you. Sorry about that, but I am really fucked up about your behavior and being cheated by some fools that think they are smarter than anyone else.
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January 20, 2020, 02:45:42 PM
#69
Megadice megascam megacunts,.

Faking shit is proper scummy and you deserve no business on this forum
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January 20, 2020, 02:41:42 PM
#68
During the legal proceeding the lawyer can request the server logs from AWS directly and then the truth would come to light. Smiley

I am not sure about that, as I do not know their setup. If they just use EC2 or something like that, the logs are saved only on their own server.

How can "start_balance" be the same as "end_balance", when a bet is made and there was no win? The win needs to be "10" to have the same balance before and after the bet.

That is what TMAN means. You ignored my request to explain that, as you always ignore requests that make you problems (cold storage...).

EDIT:
Logs have been archived: https://archive.is/FRTs3

Oooops!

It seems like someone forgot to change the figures after copying and pasting.....  Shocked

Having said that I scrolled through at random on the archive link and noticed not all bets the same start/end balance - strange:

Code:
	{
"round_id" : "5002262833f66030bacd63d1a2",
"time" : "2019-10-30 17:41:51",
"bet" : 40.00,
"win" : 16.00000000,
"start_balance" : 73.89000000,
"end_balance" : 89.89000000
},
{
"round_id" : "ff01864f71aa1a61f96c415d26",
"time" : "2019-10-30 17:41:47",
"bet" : 40.00,
"win" : 0.00000000,
"start_balance" : 113.89000000,
"end_balance" : 113.89000000
},
{
"round_id" : "5036715e3409f4172004bdf71a",
"time" : "2019-10-30 17:41:41",
"bet" : 40.00,
"win" : 30.40000000,
"start_balance" : 123.49000000,
"end_balance" : 153.89000000
},
{
"round_id" : "7d52885298eb6f115aa76e9e59",
"time" : "2019-10-30 17:41:36",
"bet" : 40.00,
"win" : 4.80000000,
"start_balance" : 158.69000000,
"end_balance" : 163.49000000
},
{
"round_id" : "2a8884b1ddcc7a8a191ab35790",
"time" : "2019-10-30 17:41:32",
"bet" : 40.00,
"win" : 0.00000000,
"start_balance" : 198.69000000,
"end_balance" : 198.69000000
},
{
"round_id" : "840af4935b7ed3c149149a3bf8",
"time" : "2019-10-30 17:41:26",
"bet" : 40.00,
"win" : 12.80000000,
"start_balance" : 225.89000000,
"end_balance" : 238.69000000
},
{
"round_id" : "83f559e1623128786a5e4cb898",
"time" : "2019-10-30 17:41:21",
"bet" : 40.00,
"win" : 8.00000000,
"start_balance" : 257.89000000,
"end_balance" : 265.89000000
},
{
"round_id" : "f548d8e99f511add5c7b2fbe80",
"time" : "2019-10-30 17:41:17",
"bet" : 40.00,
"win" : 0.00000000,
"start_balance" : 297.89000000,
"end_balance" : 297.89000000
},
{
"round_id" : "381a3620a29baffe9d99e3c6d6",
"time" : "2019-10-30 17:41:12",
"bet" : 40.00,
"win" : 6.40000000,
"start_balance" : 331.49000000,
"end_balance" : 337.89000000
},
{
"round_id" : "b39f77591df5a14d69c7841065",
"time" : "2019-10-30 17:41:09",
"bet" : 40.00,
"win" : 0.00000000,
"start_balance" : 371.49000000,
"end_balance" : 371.49000000
},
{
"round_id" : "1c5e3c52979346aaa0534a29e2",
"time" : "2019-10-30 17:41:04",
"bet" : 40.00,
"win" : 16.00000000,
"start_balance" : 395.49000000,
"end_balance" : 411.49000000
},


I would still recommend that MegaDice please reconsider their position. If they simply cite this was a case of misunderstanding and some technical or human error and release the funds owed to the OP, then I am sure the OP will not be posting about this subject again and we can all continue as before.

Maybe something happened, maybe something went wrong and they have stated the OP is not due the 19+ BTC. I hope this matter is not going to get dragged out over a long period of time.

Please MegaDice, is there a way this issue can be resolved between you and the OP which results in the OP receiving the 19+ BTC that he is entitled to and completed sooner rather than later?
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January 20, 2020, 01:54:44 PM
#67
During the legal proceeding the lawyer can request the server logs from AWS directly and then the truth would come to light. Smiley

I am not sure about that, as I do not know their setup. If they just use EC2 or something like that, the logs are saved only on their own server.

How can "start_balance" be the same as "end_balance", when a bet is made and there was no win? The win needs to be "10" to have the same balance before and after the bet.

That is what TMAN means. You ignored my request to explain that, as you always ignore requests that make you problems (cold storage...).

EDIT:
Logs have been archived: https://archive.is/FRTs3
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January 20, 2020, 01:34:59 PM
#66

Its just a mistake in the word  Wink.
start_balance - after the bet
end_balance - after the win

You have been saying "fucking shitty sites" and not actually read my message above which unfortunately means that you dont really read any proof that we post and your opinion is biased

the word you typed - same as the amounts you typed... re read the posts above you wanktard - fucking idiot you cant even do maths.. if you are going to fabricate bets at least spend 30 seconds to check the numbers are correct and reasonable fucking dickcheese
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January 20, 2020, 01:06:59 PM
#65
How can "start_balance" be the same as "end_balance", when a bet is made and there was no win? The win needs to be "10" to have the same balance before and after the bet.

the above - you have fudged the logs and not actually done the maths.

fucking shitty sites

Directed @ the site not OP!


EDIT:
HERE IS AN EXAMPLE SO THAT EVERYONE WILL UNDERSTAND THE LOGS...


Quote
EXAMPLE:
  • newalias has balance of 1.1 BTC
  • newalias bets 0.1BTC on this spin
  • newalias loses the bet.

The above EXAMPLE will have this round log:
   {
      "round_id" : "ROUND_ID",
      "time" : "DATE",
      "bet" : 100.00,
      "win" : 0.00000000,
      "start_balance" : 1000.00000000,
      "end_balance" : 1000.00000000
   },

start_balance - The balance after the bet
end_balance - The balance after the win


You have been saying "fucking shitty sites" and not actually read my message above which unfortunately means that you dont really read any proof that we post and your opinion is biased
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January 20, 2020, 01:04:12 PM
#64
How can "start_balance" be the same as "end_balance", when a bet is made and there was no win? The win needs to be "10" to have the same balance before and after the bet.

the above - you have fudged the logs and not actually done the maths.

fucking shitty sites

Directed @ the site not OP!
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January 20, 2020, 11:48:20 AM
#63
During the legal proceeding the lawyer can request the server logs from AWS directly and then the truth would come to light. Smiley
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January 20, 2020, 11:38:54 AM
#62
I ask anyone reading this to save the gamelogs provided by MegaDice with the originating URL on his computer for evidence, as I have found several inconsistencies. Thank you!

Furthermore, here you may find every single spin you made on Satoshislot.
Balance and Bet Values are in mBTC
"start_balance" means the balance of the user before each spin
"after_balance" is the result after the spin (thus including the win/loss amount).

You should explain how exactly your logs are working, especially "start_balance" and "after_balance" (correctly, it is named "end_balance"). For example:

Code:
{
"round_id" : "34fa42a670617c40f04ae6fac2",
"time" : "2019-10-29 19:08:48",
"bet" : 10.00,
"win" : 0.00000000,
"start_balance" : 206.19000000,
"end_balance" : 206.19000000
}

How can "start_balance" be the same as "end_balance", when a bet is made and there was no win? The win needs to be "10" to have the same balance before and after the bet.

Sorry my mistake in "word":
start_balance - after the bet
end_balance - after the win



We are also going to post the direct ACCESS_LOGS of your calls, which includes your IP too. Do we have your permission to post these here online ?
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January 19, 2020, 07:34:49 PM
#61
I hope it does not come to a Court case or anything like that but MegaDice is fast losing whatever respect they might have had in the past.

They have dragged this issue out for around 3 months and ruined their reputation in the process but they can still walk away from this with some dignity by accepting something went wrong in their logs and they settle the full amount to the OP.

This has been a public relations disaster for MegaDice, better they try to salvage their reputation now rather than this issue remain unresolved much longer. I hope they do it so we can all be happy with the result and move on.
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January 19, 2020, 06:50:05 PM
#60
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The slot is developed and hosted by Rakki, the company behind MegaDice. They are able to manipulate logs.

About the lawyer, please see my last answer to your question:

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Yeah, but Rakki N.V. is based in Curaçao, maybe for a good reason. This means that I have to throw money away in order to sue them. Obviously, they are bankrupt.

Nevertheless, I am thinking about that. I am not a poor man and sueing them should prevent them from stealing more money from other customers.

Oh , then indeed that's kind of bad news if they're actually the manufacturor of said slot .  And honestly I believe sueing them would be your best option in any case . Though it will be a bit tricky as they can manipulate the logs at any time.
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January 19, 2020, 06:25:26 PM
#59
Why don't go with all of this to a lawyer ? I mean we're talking about over 150,000$  . Surely you can find a decent lawyer to represent you . If they're claiming you continued to spin on that slot , then a legal action from you will force the slot manufacturer to release the game records for your session . And like this you can easily prove it.
I'm not trying to say that they did or did not scam you , but it's also a possibility that they might be right , and you did continue playing .

The slot is developed and hosted by Rakki, the company behind MegaDice. They are able to manipulate logs.

About the lawyer, please see my last answer to your question:

Why don't you get a lawyer and go after them ? It's a huge amount of $ .

Yeah, but Rakki N.V. is based in Curaçao, maybe for a good reason. This means that I have to throw money away in order to sue them. Obviously, they are bankrupt.

Nevertheless, I am thinking about that. I am not a poor man and sueing them should prevent them from stealing more money from other customers.
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January 19, 2020, 06:08:52 PM
#58
Why don't go with all of this to a lawyer ? I mean we're talking about over 150,000$  . Surely you can find a decent lawyer to represent you . If they're claiming you continued to spin on that slot , then a legal action from you will force the slot manufacturer to release the game records for your session . And like this you can easily prove it.
I'm not trying to say that they did or did not scam you , but it's also a possibility that they might be right , and you did continue playing .
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January 19, 2020, 05:29:06 PM
#57
I ask anyone reading this to save the gamelogs provided by MegaDice with the originating URL on his computer for evidence, as I have found several inconsistencies. Thank you!

Furthermore, here you may find every single spin you made on Satoshislot.
Balance and Bet Values are in mBTC
"start_balance" means the balance of the user before each spin
"after_balance" is the result after the spin (thus including the win/loss amount).

You should explain how exactly your logs are working, especially "start_balance" and "after_balance" (correctly, it is named "end_balance"). For example:

Code:
{
"round_id" : "34fa42a670617c40f04ae6fac2",
"time" : "2019-10-29 19:08:48",
"bet" : 10.00,
"win" : 0.00000000,
"start_balance" : 206.19000000,
"end_balance" : 206.19000000
}

How can "start_balance" be the same as "end_balance", when a bet is made and there was no win? The win needs to be "10" to have the same balance before and after the bet.
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January 19, 2020, 05:02:31 PM
#56
~snip~

For full reference, please view the thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52926209

I have created some flag to have users adviced when searching for MegaDice, unfortunately it is invalid as I just registered to post in the MegaDice thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1000

UPDATE 26 Nov
Screenshots can be find here, proving win and balance:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qitfa9xWBHiRLfak0YPaVxIWEmOnCLdH?usp=sharing


I have supported the flag.

This situation has gone on almost 12 weeks and seems somewhat hard to believe when they still have not provided evidence you gambled away19 BTC but cannot provide proof. What is this nonsense they state about wallet not being topped up?

On the surface it seems like you accumulated over 19 BTC in wins but they claim you gambled it away whereas you dispute this.

The user MegaDice mentions several times their wallet was not being topped up during that period as some kind of reason that would stop you from either winning, losing or betting and I am confused as to why they would say it along with stating they sent off various bits of information Curacao eGaming but they cannot show any evidence here of you betting 2000 rounds (as they claim) after you won 19 BTC.

They have not provided evidence to counter your claim and my support of the flag will stay until or unless they have given grounds to suggest they are not liable for the theft of 19 BTC.
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January 19, 2020, 03:15:06 PM
#55
Lets talk about cold wallet again. Years ago, MegaDice provided signatures for cold wallets that are completely empty at the time of writing:

MegaDice Bitcoin Cold Storage Dddress (NOT FOR DEPOSITING)
~200 BTC Hash: 185xU8AfF6GEGnBNs63ELCuR1eh9iL5JJH
Message: MD Cold Storage
Signature: H2Mp8hIzjDcLPMeZO8xTISIe4Hmbd47SuRN4irSBthSzShxh43o+mCxqamjRNOF/sm7NtUJuBR13waw7PGBH9K4=

So, it should be no problem for MegaDice to provide new cold wallet signatures, as they state a cold wallet exist. That was asked for months ago:

Maybe MegaDice should provide evidence for their cold wallet...

MegaDice woke up a week ago, after sleeping for months:

...

The request to provide cold wallet proof was issued several times:

Maybe MegaDice should provide evidence for their cold wallet...

This is outstanding since years. Maybe it is a good time showing that you are able to pay wins like 19 BTC?

Maybe MegaDice should provide evidence for their cold wallet...

This is outstanding since years. Maybe it is a good time showing that you are able to pay wins like 19 BTC?

What about that?

You are still ignoring my request to prove funds. Where is the problem, preventing you from even answering to this request? In your initial post years ago, it was no problem to prove 200 BTC funds, and now it is?

Figures from your system are not transparent, the blockchain is. Th 18 BTC withdrawals stated can be fictitious, as your log files are.

...

These requests were completely ignored by MegaDice. 4 days ago, they said they want to publish something:

We will work towards posting publicly the cold storage and we are already working on fixing the long delays between refilling.

They posted again and again, without providing any proof. Very fishy.
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January 18, 2020, 03:10:02 AM
#54
Our main goal is to be more active here and in the support emails, and i think we are slowly doing some progress.

it's good to hear that, but you can provide proof of that:

He continued gambling, made more than 2000 rounds after his 19BTC win, and eventually he lost them all.

this case has a long time and needs to be resolved

whats the consensus here ?

I'm still on the OP side
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January 17, 2020, 04:25:04 AM
#53
megadice has 0 credibility here due to taking 6 weeks to provide any information - how do we know this isn't faked?

we need solid proof and without it I am siding with OP, whats the consensus here ?
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January 16, 2020, 10:15:50 AM
#52
If you consider online gaming consumer protetion service as spamming, it does not look like you will get anything fom Megadice!
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January 16, 2020, 10:30:32 AM
#52
If you consider online gaming consumer protetion service as spamming, it does not look like you will get anything fom Megadice!
Just because you call yourself online gaming consumer protetion  ( I assume you were trying to say online gambling consumer protection) doesn't mean you are one .
I've never dealt with you on any topic personally but recently being more active here it was impossible for me not to stumble on some of your posts . Which are all the same , you're lurking in the shadows "preying" on victims of online casinos ( Don't know if you actually get anywhere as it seems no one is taking you serious anymore ).
But you can simply prove me wrong and all the members who provided negative feedback to you . Show us relevant proof , documents etc ( as you always advertise you enforce user's claims to casinos via lawyers , legal channels etc ) that you've actually helped people recover their money .

P.S.  - When will you give h4ns the loan back ?
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