Topic: Members Asking For Donations To Help Poor People - page 2. (Read 546 times)

Thank you for the link, that seems a lot of work done by those representing that charity. And thank you for stating there is nothing wrong with being suspicious or not giving the benefit of the doubt in the first place.



I agree, I noted some of the general consensus about the projects being promoted in the forum seem to well documented and transparent but as you said it is still a matter of trust.



Thank you for your input but I never alluded to any specific member behaving in an unethical manner. The project you refer to does have several respected users on-board and that might minimise the chances of anything untoward going on. As I said earlier, I wish success to any endeavour by any forum member that is 100% genuine and is designed to help relieve people from worries and stress due to poverty.



Thank you for your advice examplens, I have removed him from my ignore list. Shortly, I will reply to his post accordingly.



Yes that has already been stated as a way to donate by several people in the thread. I prefer this option.

That was a very kind gesture on your part helping people in and around your local area. I hope all the help you provided to those people that needed it really appreciate what you did. It is not easy for many people to get by on basic essentials (or lack of them), many households are struggling under lock down and are being affected by the COVID-19 pandemic in one way or another so your help would a blessing for them.

Only Faith, there is no other way to verify if the fund is going to the right place. If you aren't sure where you are donating and you don't trust the person to whom receiving funds for management, then it's better to donate yourself directly to your nearest helpless peoples.

This pandemic isn't limited to any specific area, so I believe, "Your donation should be given priority to the helpless people near you". And that's what I have done, of course, I had sold my earned bitcoin and help few helpless peoples those are staying around me. It doesn't mean I don't trust them who raise funds on the forum to help helpless peoples. But I feel my Neighbor and nearest peoples are claimants of my help/donation. For me, people should get help, doesn't matter who is behind it and I feel that, revelation isn't necessary.

Here is a quote for OP that he can read the answer from Royse777.
Jolly, I’m not sure how massive ignoring helps in any discussion. If you ignore all users who're you do not want to read or disagree with you, and leaving visible only users and posts who agree with your opinion, so you can get a completely wrong picture that everything is fine and that your opinion is always 100% in right. I'm just saying that it is necessary to hear both criticism and other opinions
(Of course, this does not include spammers and professional trolls )

Nice work (LOL) but excuse me:

I suppose you grew up in a war zone where hunger, crime, poverty, killing were common and you did not have a chance to understand a civilized society.

PS: Can someone quote this post and ask to read this. A response on this would be nice. I am offended to be honest.

I do not see a problem if the controller of such charities are kind of decentralized. Royse777 campaign was one of that type. There was escrow, there was Lauda in governing body and then Hhampuz. They together took every decision along with some investigation from some of the forum members. It's not like that Royse777 controlled everything and gave fund to everyone Royse777 wanted. Every applicant was checked case by case and if they found legit, only they paid the legit users who were able to submit enough documents.

This is fair. Any person/organization offering a legitimate charity service wouldn't mind you circumventing them and going directly to people in need, as long as the same purpose is served and aid is given. Such services are to help those who cannot connect directly to the most vulnerable people and they should be totally transparent in the process. Suspicion leads to auditing which helps to keep such services in check, so it's welcome and should be encouraged.

The projects run on the forum were well documented and transparent, with lots of effort going into it from the members involved. It however is still a matter of trust.

Thank you for the detailed post.

Regarding following the work done by Royse777, I followed next to nothing of his because I have him on my ignore and distrust list, I absolutely do not trust him and it will probably stay that way until I review things further down the line. I unignored him for the sake of reading the OP about his donation thread work but promptly added him back. I also read some posts from users asking for donations to help those in need before I created the thread.

I agree with you about not letting some bad eggs discourage donors but making donations online here can only be done with a huge element of trust and so far not everybody including myself is confident that all people asking for donations have pure intentions.

As you stated there must be positive outcomes where people in need have benefited such as in the examples you gave about your assistance in your area and so on but the element of trust before parting with either crypto or cash is the real main obstacle for many.

@cabalism13, @crwth and others successfully managed the donation they've got from other forum members. They actually done a lot of physical work just to deliver the relief goods in remote areas and orphanage that needs immediate help amidst the pandemic. And yeah, that is one of the most heartwarming activity that I have seen in behalf of Filipino members.

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There is also nothing wrong why being suspicious on a charity event in the first place though. It's just that we have this eagerness that our help will actually reach those people are in need.

Actually there's a way. Without trying to review any major information, @Royse777 was able to deploy a method he used to make sure the funds generated on the forum were used for a good course. He formed a team with users on the forum from different region and all those seeking for help got investigated properly. If you followed his work, you'll notice some users have been denied access to the funds they seek since their claims couldn't be verified to be authentic.

Another method he deployed to ensure funds were used rightly was he asked for you to work out a way to generate the funds, like borrowing etc and when the work is done you get refunded fully. I remember when he contacted me asking for my help in carrying out an outreach in my state . I had to run the expenses all by myself before I was refunded after the job is done. If you see a users seeking for help, and you feel like rending that help but also went the donations to be used rightly, you can asked someone that can be trusted on the forum closed to the region of the users in need to do some proper investigating, this might work.

Ps: Lets not let some bad eggs discourage us from helping those in need.

Congratulations, so nice to hear about the good work you are doing by sponsoring a Ghanaian child. Hopefully your help with provide much needed help for him, maybe if he can an education and then get a good job he might be able to contribute to others that are from a disadvantaged background in his local area. Thank you for sharing this wonderful story.

I agree with you, I will never give any money to any user here claiming it is for charity. I support various charities in my own way and when I travel abroad I prefer to donate directly to those in need. Like you I want to see where my donated funds are being spent.

Of course, there is a suspicion of what is happening with the donated funds, but I think that some members really tried to document every step and thus show what the money was spent on. I have also participated in some charities, and I am quite satisfied with the level of transparency they have shown - but it should be emphasized that these are members who are Hero/Legendary and also DT members with a certain reputation.

I will just say that some members of this forum have shown more professionalism and transparency than most so-called charities worldwide. If UNICEF is spent at least 50% of what they get from donations then thousands of children would not die every day from hunger and curable diseases.

Well I guess you can't really be 100% sure, when you are giving to some organisation or someone that collects money for others. My principle is, when I generally trust someone, I will donate and won't think whether it will be used the right way or not. I simply donate and hope for the best.

If you really don't trust any 3rd party, then it's best to help someone in need directly. If you look around yourself you will certainly see people that could use your help. Problem solved.
 I often recommend that approach to those that say they never donate because they are afraid money will be stolen or used the wrong way, but when I suggest them that, they usually ignore or find some other excuse, like they will use money for drugs&alchohol etc(not that it doesn't happen ofc).

I give to my own selected charities, I always give to homeless people I see. Me & my girl have been sponsoring a young boy from Ghana for years, we send him stuff & receive photos & letters back to prove he’s received what we send.

People are welcome to do what they want but I will never give BTC to people on here claiming it’s for charity. No offence to anybody involved but I like to see where my money is going.

There are a few members that are asking for money to help people who are in need of food and medicine.

I have some concerns about this and I want to ask how you feel about this because there is no way to ascertain whether any funds collected are even being spent on charitable causes. With someone posting some comments or photographs about people receiving food or money does not prove anything so how can a donor be sure?

I am not saying any or all members asking for donations to help people who are in disadvantaged situations are scammers - I am not saying that !

I wish success to any endeavour by any forum member that is 100% genuine and is designed to help relieve people from worries and stress due to poverty.

What I am saying is that just because you donate some crypto with the intention of you doing a good deed does not mean that donation is going to the right place, it could in fact be going to the back pocket of the person behind the donation requests.

How can you be sure your donations will not end up being stolen?

How can you be not sure users in the forum asking for your donations are actually after merits and seeking free publicity to portray a better persona here with ulterior motives?