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Topic: Mental illness is most likely a fiction - page 2. (Read 2660 times)

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December 18, 2012, 06:02:16 PM
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Is autism a mental illness?

It's so not a mental illness, that it's being phased out from the DSM in the DSM-V.  They're eliminating it and inventing a whole new category of "mental condition" called "Autism spectrum disorder", lumping "aspies" and profound autist children in a single category.

Psychology / psychiatry are by and large not sciences.  They are not evidence based.

Note that I'm not saying "autistic children have nothing wrong with them" above.
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December 18, 2012, 06:01:04 PM
#9
My personal experience leads me to strongly believe that people can be mentally ill without having been abused, the same way they can be born blind or deaf or with any other disability.
Modern science of mental health and neurology says otherwise -- in the vast majority if not all cases of mental illness (exception made for provable congenital defects affecting the brain), there is always an environmental trigger associated.  This is why there isn't a "schizophrenia gene", but rather genes that make people propense to schizophrenia.

Well of course... just like every time you flip a coin (exception made for all the times it lands tails) it lands heads!

Congenital means you're born with it.  Some people have mental illness resulting from congenital defects affecting the brain, just like you said.
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December 18, 2012, 06:00:01 PM
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Is autism a mental illness?
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December 18, 2012, 05:55:31 PM
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My personal experience leads me to strongly believe that people can be mentally ill without having been abused, the same way they can be born blind or deaf or with any other disability.

Sup man, hope you're okay.

Modern science of mental health and neurology says otherwise -- in the vast majority if not all cases of mental illness (exception made for provable congenital defects affecting the brain), there is always an environmental trigger associated.  This is why there isn't a "schizophrenia gene" or a "psychopathy gene", but rather genes that make people propense to schizophrenia or psychopathy.

If you are interested in the topic, I suggest these conversation starters:

http://fdrurl.com/bib

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOScYBwMyAA <- this one in particular

http://reason.com/blog/2010/08/19/reasontv-three-ingredients-for <- famous neurologist

Stef has a few interviews with (inb4 "fringe!") well-known mental health professionals about the topic.  I suggest you take a look at these too.

Please do ignore the two other people in this thread -- they are attempting to sabotage this post by either provoking me or derailing the topic.  Some people just have virulent and abusive reactions to discussing the (pretty much taboo) topic of child abuse; I won't speculate as to why they do that, but you can see for yourself that they definitely do, right here.
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December 18, 2012, 05:51:22 PM
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Davout - Can you be more clear on exactly what your saying?   I am still trying to contempt his OP.
I sure could but can't be bothered

I think Mike above actually did.  Thanks though.
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1davout
December 18, 2012, 05:47:49 PM
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Davout - Can you be more clear on exactly what your saying?   I am still trying to contempt his OP.
I sure could but can't be bothered
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December 18, 2012, 05:43:40 PM
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My personal experience leads me to strongly believe that people can be mentally ill without having been abused, the same way they can be born blind or deaf or with any other disability.
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December 18, 2012, 05:35:26 PM
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maybe you should make another sockpuppet before you run out of list space. plus its always better to multi-ignore people.
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1davout
December 18, 2012, 04:00:25 PM
#2
Child abusers can break a bone, but we would not call the child's broken bone an 'illness.'

Child abuse tends to break minds. The result is not mental illness, any more than a stab wound is a physical illness.

https://www.facebook.com/stefan.molyneux/posts/10151546940781679
You're the living proof of the opposite
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December 18, 2012, 03:55:48 PM
#1
Child abusers can break a bone, but we would not call the child's broken bone an 'illness.'

Child abuse tends to break minds. The result is not mental illness, any more than a stab wound is a physical illness.

https://www.facebook.com/stefan.molyneux/posts/10151546940781679
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