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legendary
Activity: 2394
Merit: 1517
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May 04, 2018, 10:24:34 AM
#26
If the buonty is managed in very good way I think yes, bounty manager deserve a part of sMerit, if we "accept " 50 Merit for posting a pic https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.30354958, (yeah he is probably abusing the system looking his merit history https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1005975)  I don't see why we can't say "thankyou" (even if they are already paid) to good managers (only the good one!) for months of work!
newbie
Activity: 378
Merit: 0
May 04, 2018, 09:44:39 AM
#25
There are people here who could probably use it more and who deserve it--though that's rare,  People give their manager a sign of appreciation that the campaign was successful, but this violates the very essence of the merit system
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1253
So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)
May 03, 2018, 10:27:19 AM
#24
Thanks.
That's exactly what I was saying by the way. Posts like this where people are discussing: 0 merits. I saw bounty threads (or ANN made by the team, similiar topic) with 10 merits or more.
I just think that a solution could be closing merit system for bounty section and just give trust.
Discussing about merit does not mean they are going to get merited. Some newbies in the forum are having this false delusion that talking about merit and asslicking the merit sources will fetch them some beggar merits but no its not so. After a while the posts get redundant and people will no longer even visit the thread except those who check their "New Replies to your posts"


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I guess that the entire base (and problem) of the merit system is giving the power to maintain a whole forum to normal people who merit posts in a subjective way.. Smiley
What are you implying? That merit is biased? It may be so in your eyes for reasons unknown to me. I believe it is a good thing. It actually creates an environment worthy discussing in rather than posting to get paid.
hero member
Activity: 2268
Merit: 669
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May 02, 2018, 11:36:02 PM
#23
It's probably going a bit far, but maybe the bounty culture should have it's own merit system.
I agree with this, If people want to give merits to bounty creators it should be their own merit system, in that way base on how many merits a bounty thread has would mean that the bounty itself is successful and won't be a waste of smerit needed for ranking up because bounties does not help the bitcointalk with helpful information. Bounties are bussiness and won't contribute to this forum. Bounties is for market, other purposes/goal and not for bitcointalk to be discussed.
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1253
So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)
May 02, 2018, 05:15:16 AM
#22
Maybe we could find a system of meriting Merits.......
Again I am having to repeat the same thing - Meriting a post in a subjective concept. People may find posts worth meriting but then others may not concur the same idea. Now there is no regulation regarding this till date so the problem is arising. Worthless posts are something getting merited while better posts go overlooked.

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You know what I mean.
You know you could explain yourself in words. I am not that bright in interpreting vague sentences.

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I am - as you might know - not a fiery opponent of the (in)famous Merit system, but we really aren't going to discuss this all to way up in absurdo, I hope...
Still its working for now. It needs a modification on what I said above and nothing more.
sr. member
Activity: 1316
Merit: 379
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May 01, 2018, 04:10:03 PM
#21
I have also observed this occurance. I didn't look at it from this your stand point,  but I suspected eye service or favour seeking. Because I don't see the ingenuity of a bounty post that will attract merit.

Good observation for you though.
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 501
May 01, 2018, 01:36:52 PM
#20
Merits received for the bounty in my opinion are not entirely honest. People give their manager a sign of appreciation that the campaign was successful, but this violates the very essence of the merit system. Initially, it was aimed but that would stimulate people to create high-quality content, and eventually becomes a sort of forum token.

Literally campaign managers don't need much of merit because they are not kind of being after it, but a sign of appreciation can be a good sign in order for other user distinguish that the campaign manager handles smooth, but not always to prefer merit about it. Trust should be given instead of merit, However it is the givers decision, the only problem is abusing it.
I agree that the sender will dispose of his merits as necessary. However, the rules of the forum clearly spelled out what merits are and how the system works as a whole. If users will use merits absolutely without control, then the system will turn into a forum token, which will be used as a local currency.
jr. member
Activity: 125
Merit: 1
May 01, 2018, 01:23:16 PM
#19

It is very strange to see people rewarded with merits to "sell" things.
They're giving a service to the community, but they're working and they're paid for doing it.

That is very far from receiveng deserved merit points in my opinion.


So here's next dimension Merit discussion thread 2.0 in which we are going to discuss if someone has deserved his Merit.

I am wondering: is it the fault of the one who has given sMerit, or is the one who has received it to blame?
Neither one of them. But the fact is, merit should be given to any member with quality post. Where is the credibilty of the Merit Sytem if only wasted on ANN
I think that the merit should be given to people who have done a solid job in the bounty program, but for various reasons have not been rewarded - most often the failure of the project.
Ow really? This furom made for learning bitcoin thru conversation and merit has implemented to give it to the deserving members, is the successful campaign deserve it?
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1059
nutildah-III / NFT2021-04-01
May 01, 2018, 07:56:05 AM
#18
So here's next dimension Merit discussion thread 2.0 in which we are going to discuss if someone has deserved his Merit.

I am wondering: is it the fault of the one who has given sMerit, or is the one who has received it to blame?
Buying and selling or merits is not allowed and will be tagged accordingly. There is no doubt about that. Now coming to your question, the merit-worthiness of a post is a subjective concept and there is no hard and fast rule so as to what is considered as merit worthy. It depends on the Merit source member - but in general quality posts are merited.

Still a worthless post being merit will be frowned upon by others - might even end up in removal of the merit source. Though we have not seen any such cases yet.

Merits received for the bounty in my opinion are not entirely honest. People give their manager a sign of appreciation that the campaign was successful, but this violates the very essence of the merit system. Initially, it was aimed but that would stimulate people to create high-quality content, and eventually becomes a sort of forum token.
This is where it has become grey. Merit sometimes ends up in being a token of thanks which denies the actual reason why it was introduced - to prevent spammers to ranking up.

Maybe we could find a system of meriting Merits.......

You know what I mean.

I am - as you might know - not a fiery opponent of the (in)famous Merit system, but we really aren't going to discuss this all to way up in absurdo, I hope...
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1253
So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)
May 01, 2018, 05:24:30 AM
#17
So here's next dimension Merit discussion thread 2.0 in which we are going to discuss if someone has deserved his Merit.

I am wondering: is it the fault of the one who has given sMerit, or is the one who has received it to blame?
Buying and selling or merits is not allowed and will be tagged accordingly. There is no doubt about that. Now coming to your question, the merit-worthiness of a post is a subjective concept and there is no hard and fast rule so as to what is considered as merit worthy. It depends on the Merit source member - but in general quality posts are merited.

Still a worthless post being merit will be frowned upon by others - might even end up in removal of the merit source. Though we have not seen any such cases yet.

Merits received for the bounty in my opinion are not entirely honest. People give their manager a sign of appreciation that the campaign was successful, but this violates the very essence of the merit system. Initially, it was aimed but that would stimulate people to create high-quality content, and eventually becomes a sort of forum token.
This is where it has become grey. Merit sometimes ends up in being a token of thanks which denies the actual reason why it was introduced - to prevent spammers to ranking up.
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 564
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April 30, 2018, 07:36:28 PM
#16
Merit should be unavailable at service and bounty section. Just as OP stated, most of the posts there are pure marketing and have no reason to be merited whatsoever.

So the best bet, in my opinion, is to be turned off there or just to tell people to stop doing that. I don't even know why people feel the need to merit bounty posts. :/
full member
Activity: 378
Merit: 104
April 30, 2018, 05:42:35 PM
#15
No, it's not (in my opinion ofc).

But I saw things so crazy, made with merits, that now I'm not surprised anymore.
Personally I do not think it's right to give 50 merits to this image, and that this person should be punished: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.30354958
But that's another story ..
full member
Activity: 420
Merit: 171
April 30, 2018, 10:51:00 AM
#14
Merits received for the bounty in my opinion are not entirely honest. People give their manager a sign of appreciation that the campaign was successful, but this violates the very essence of the merit system. Initially, it was aimed but that would stimulate people to create high-quality content, and eventually becomes a sort of forum token.

Literally campaign managers don't need much of merit because they are not kind of being after it, but a sign of appreciation can be a good sign in order for other user distinguish that the campaign manager handles smooth, but not always to prefer merit about it. Trust should be given instead of merit, However it is the givers decision, the only problem is abusing it.
full member
Activity: 420
Merit: 101
April 30, 2018, 10:07:18 AM
#13
That's what always shown and I first thought with so much merit that given to give personal profot for the project that he handles. I men responsible people will think that the project has good  potential but so far i feel doubt to see it. Maybe that's from the bounty manager team themself. But better it must have personal system.
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 501
April 30, 2018, 09:47:41 AM
#12
Merits received for the bounty in my opinion are not entirely honest. People give their manager a sign of appreciation that the campaign was successful, but this violates the very essence of the merit system. Initially, it was aimed but that would stimulate people to create high-quality content, and eventually becomes a sort of forum token.
legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1059
nutildah-III / NFT2021-04-01
April 30, 2018, 06:33:39 AM
#11

It is very strange to see people rewarded with merits to "sell" things.
They're giving a service to the community, but they're working and they're paid for doing it.

That is very far from receiveng deserved merit points in my opinion.


So here's next dimension Merit discussion thread 2.0 in which we are going to discuss if someone has deserved his Merit.

I am wondering: is it the fault of the one who has given sMerit, or is the one who has received it to blame?
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1253
So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)
April 30, 2018, 05:11:53 AM
#10
I think the trust system is more adequate for bounties.
How is that? Trust is actually for marketplace trust. Though the idea has been diversified a lot now.
Giving merit is the own will of a forum member untill Bitcoin Forum make any specific rules for/against bounty. Your post is some relevant to me but moderators may think about this in future.
Mods have nothing to do with merit and/or merit abuse. People do merit stuff they like and then there are bounty threads that get merited by the people who like to stay goody-goody with the bounty manager. There is nothing people can do about it.
legendary
Activity: 3332
Merit: 6809
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April 29, 2018, 06:44:48 PM
#9
I can't understand why people are sending Merits to bounty thread creators. What's the point of that? It's just a waste of their sMerit.
I think it's equal parts gratitude and ass-kissing on the parts of bounty participants, but I wouldn't discount the possibility that there's something more sinister going on behind the scenes.  You just never know with these bounty hunters and bounty managers.

People are basically free to do whatever they want with their sMerits, and Theymos has endorsed a hands-off approach to the whole thing.  Do I think it's a waste to leave bounty managers merits?  Absolutely.  There are people here who could probably use it more and who deserve it--though that's rare, I think.  But it's not a rule violation, and it's not even an unwritten rule or breach of etiquette.  It's up to them if they want to do it.
legendary
Activity: 3080
Merit: 1338
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April 29, 2018, 06:28:06 PM
#8
I can't understand why people are sending Merits to bounty thread creators. What's the point of that? It's just a waste of their sMerit. I understand why people are giving Merit to Bitcoin signature campaign managers - they hope that it will help to be accepted to campaign. But bounties - why?
But ok, that's their choice. I think it's better to waste sMerit in this way, instead of giving Merit to your alts or selling it.
legendary
Activity: 2324
Merit: 6006
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April 28, 2018, 03:45:18 PM
#7
I think the trust system is more adequate for bounties.
But I think there is no way to avoid bounty hunters from meriting bounty Managers.
They are part of the forum and I think that's not a problem at all... Managers are not shitposteds, and I think they can contribute to the forum
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