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newbie
Activity: 196
Merit: 0
January 25, 2018, 06:35:55 AM
#71
Hello guys,

Gusto ko sana i discuss natin dito yung regarding sa Merit and New rank system na inimplement ni master theymos.

Here is the link para sa mga hindi pa nakaka alam : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-new-rank-requirements-2818350

Here is the link para makita mo ang MERIT mo and remaining sMerit (Sendable Merit) : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit

Ano sa tingin nyo? may positive and negative impact ba ito sa atin?


In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks. The required scores are:

RankRequired activityRequired merit
Brand new00
Newbie10
Jr Member300
Member6010
Full Member120100
Sr. Member240250
Hero Member480500
LegendaryRandom in the range 775-10301000

You get merit points when someone sends you some for one of your posts. Additionally, when someone sends you merit points, half of those points can be sent by you to other people.

Certain users are designated as "merit sources". They can create new merit out of nothing, up to a limited number per month (which differs per source). I will not be posting a definitive list of merit sources (so that people don't bug them too much), though you'll soon figure out who they are if you pay attention.

There is currently no such thing as a "demerit". I'm hoping that the positive merits alone will be fine. I could add demerits pretty easily later on if necessary, though.

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

The forum ranking system is a bit complicated now... It'd be nice if someone made an infographic explaining activity and merit.

If you want to be a merit source:

Collect TEN posts that have not received nearly enough merit for how good they are, and post quotes for them all in a new Meta thread.

Trivia:

For current members, your initial merit score is equal to the minimum required to your rank. Of that, a certain amount (less than the usual half) is spendable. The spendable amount was calculated based on your current rank and the number of activity points you earned in the last year. A Legendary member who hasn't posted in the last year would still be Legendary, but would not have any spendable merit.

If someone sends you 1 merit, the 0.5 sMerit is not wasted; it is just not shown until you get another merit point.

Pasensya po, peru parang hindi ko masyadong ma intindihan ang merit ehh. May mga tanong po ako sana sagutin niyo sa mga nakakaalam.
1. Pano/anong gagawin para magka remit?
2. Kailangan ba talaga na ikaw ang mag post nang topic para magkaremit?
3. Ang pag reply o pag qoute nang topic ay may makukuha din bang remit? Salamat po sa sasagot 😊
legendary
Activity: 2576
Merit: 1043
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January 25, 2018, 06:14:45 AM
#70
Ako ang opinion ko dito maganda ito kasi tataas kahit papaano ang mga magpopost ng mga may magagandang kalidad. In short, mababawasan ang shitposters dito sa forum.

Isang naiisip ko din ay sa signature campaign. Ang mga ICO na may signature campaign ay di lang babase sa ating mga activities but pati na din sa ating mga merit. Siguro may additional stakes/shares/points ang may mataas na merit.

Although may mga benefits ito, may nakita akong isang loophole. Since pwede tayong magshare ng points sa kahit sino, pwede nilang pagkakitaan itong merit by giving the spendable merit in exchange for bitcoin or altcoins. Ito palang ang nakita kong loophole sa ngaun.

Advice ko lang sa ating mga pinoys. Dapat matutunan na natin ang magenglish nang walang baluktot para makasabay tau sa mga english- speaking countries. Nakakahiya kasi eh tinatawag taung mga SHITPOSTERS. Dapat matuto tau para di tau tawagin na gnyan ansakit eh.
legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1232
January 25, 2018, 05:28:29 AM
#69
pahirapan sa mga mag sisimula pa lang

bakit naman mahihirapan kung hindi ka naman pinipilit sa kung ano dapat mo gawin di ba? kung nahihirapan ka magpa rank up, hindi naman talaga importante yan dito, para yan sa mga nagmamadali makapa signature campaign lang
All i can say is just post regularly quality post i'm sure hindi ka mahihirapan, and for those post who have thought and relevant with the topic.
I think merit is the best way to avoid spamming on thread also those shit posters and most especially for newbies member here in forum.
Practice your self guys yung hindi lang payment from signature ang habol natin or just having a counted shit post just to rank up, besides we are giving good post here in forum to the sewer.
full member
Activity: 236
Merit: 100
January 25, 2018, 04:13:06 AM
#68
pahirapan sa mga mag sisimula pa lang

bakit naman mahihirapan kung hindi ka naman pinipilit sa kung ano dapat mo gawin di ba? kung nahihirapan ka magpa rank up, hindi naman talaga importante yan dito, para yan sa mga nagmamadali makapa signature campaign lang
full member
Activity: 1366
Merit: 107
SOL.BIOKRIPT.COM
January 25, 2018, 04:06:31 AM
#67
Maganda naman ang merit system dahil ma po forced talaga tayo na gumawa ng constructive at high quality na mga post at pag nangyari yun mas mapapaganda ang pagbabasa ng mga threads at replies dahil mawawala na o kaya mababawasan na ang mga low quality at spam post. Kayat mas magiging kapaki pakinabang at madami tayong ma aabsorb na kaalaman sa pagbabasa lang dito sa forum. Pero may dis advantage din kasi sa tingin ko maglalabasan yung mga magbebenta o bibili ng smerit nila. O kaya gagawa sila ng mga grupo sa labas ng furom na merit groups at sila sila din ang mag sesendan ng mga smerit. At cguro dagdag trabaho din eto sa mga mga mag tse tsek ng pag bigay ng smerit kung high quality nga ba ang nabigyan ng smerit. Pero siguro kaya nilagay eto dahil alam nila na magiging mabuti eto dito sa bitcointalk. Kaya dapat nalang nating sundin at pagbutihin dahil para din eto sa development ng bawat isa.
sr. member
Activity: 630
Merit: 250
January 25, 2018, 03:59:26 AM
#66
-snip

grabe to. mas lalong humirap na yung ranking system. malas mo kung mag rarank up ka na pala dapat kaso di ka pa umabot sa merit na need mo tapos wala pang nag bibigay sayo ng merit.

pros:

- dadami ang mga quality na post na makikita natin ngayon na may kabuluhan talaga.
- kawawa yung mga may farm account kasi mahihirapan sila mag parank up = more stakes sa mga bounty campaign


cons:

- dadami yung mag popost ng kung ano ano. imbis na icocomment nalang syempre mas malaki yung tyansa na maka received ng merin kung post mismo.
- mahihirapan ka mag rank up kung kulang pa ang merit mo.
full member
Activity: 812
Merit: 126
January 25, 2018, 03:39:16 AM
#65
Ang hirap na talaga mag pa rank ngayon eh pano kung okay naman ang post then nasakanila din kasi kung mag bibigay sila ng merit sa post mo pano sir kung pwede kaya sabihin na i memerit back kita kung imemerit moko ? Pano kung may ganung thread mag kakaroon kaya sya ng negative trust nun sir rickbig?

Yun nga din ang tanong ko. i just want to say thank you narin joseph for meriting me. nag merit back ako from one of your reply just to say thank you. hindi naman siguro bawal.

Merit back as an acknowledgement? bawal po siguro yun!!

Suggest ko po na magmerit lang tayo sa mga post with high quality content and has wide useful information just like OP's post na kung saan ko nalaman ang pinakang purpose ng merit. Salamat dahil nirepost mo'to dito at dapat irepost din ito ng ibang nationalities on their respective boards para makita rin ng iba kasi di sa lahat ng pagkakataon makikita nila ang new rule na inimplement ni theymos.

Sa tingin ko okay ito dahil nga ifoforced nito ang mga tao dito sa forum na magpost ng matataas na kalidad ng post, male-less pa ang spammer at account farmers.. Sana nga lang hindi ito magamit sa masamang paraan!!!  
member
Activity: 126
Merit: 21
January 25, 2018, 03:36:24 AM
#64
Sa tinging ko this will encourage us more to do quality posts yung tipong pabonggahan na ng post. Yung post na dapat pag isipan hindi yung post na kinuha lng kung saan saan, ika nga labanan ng magagaling mag post. Since binabayaran ka naman sa mga signature campaigns ng mga post dito mas maigi na din cguro na gandahan na natin yung mga post. Sa mga nag sasabi na quality na yung post mo pero sa iba hindi pala so may problem pa sa post mo so dapat ma impress mo talga ang readers sa mga pinopost, sayang din kasi yung mga binabayad ng mga campaigns kung magpopost ka lng ng mediocre post. May mga nag sasabi din na pweding laruin yung system, sa tingin ko yes pwede pero sabi naman ni theymos there will be implementing rules to come  kung may sisira sa systema. Ang mahirap lng dito pahirapan na tlga ang pag rank up. Pero at least you earned what you work hard for.
sr. member
Activity: 656
Merit: 250
January 25, 2018, 03:36:11 AM
#63
Seems very useful in eliminating and halting newbie accounts maraming maiistock na account sa Member rank kasi medyo maraming merit ang kilangan bago makapgrank up sa Full member tama yung ibang member dito hindi maiiwasan ang may magbenta ng merit lalo na pag mataas ang presyo lol hindi lang ako sure kung may rules na den na bawal ang magbenta ng merit.  
sr. member
Activity: 616
Merit: 250
January 25, 2018, 03:35:56 AM
#62
Maganda, pero iniisip ko paano kung wala namang magme-merit sayo kahit gaano pa ka "quality" ang posts mo? I know we are encouraged to give merits pero we are not forced to do so, diba? I'm still on my my way of sinking it in.
Sobrang hirap nito sa tingin ko eh papaano yung mga full member na mag Sr na this week halimbawa, meron silang 100 merits tapos hindi sila mag rarank up if wala silang macollect na 250 merits. nakakafrustrate yun for sure.
full member
Activity: 602
Merit: 103
January 25, 2018, 03:34:12 AM
#61
Maganda, pero iniisip ko paano kung wala namang magme-merit sayo kahit gaano pa ka "quality" ang posts mo? I know we are encouraged to give merits pero we are not forced to do so, diba? I'm still on my my way of sinking it in.

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

The forum ranking system is a bit complicated now... It'd be nice if someone made an infographic explaining activity and merit.

If you want to be a merit source:

Collect TEN posts that have not received nearly enough merit for how good they are, and post quotes for them all in a new Meta thread.

Dito po. Kung batid nyo naman po na wala kayong nakukuhang merits kahit na mataas ang quality ng posts nyo ay pwede kayong mag apply bilang SOURCE ng Merits. Piling miyembro lang ang pipwede dito dahil ang unang kwalipikasyon ay pagpost ng magandang kalidad at pag ikaw ay nakapasa ay makakabahagi ka na ng merit sa mga undervalued posts. Mag tatagal ay masusulosyonan na yang problemang ating kinakaharap sa ngayon.
member
Activity: 267
Merit: 11
January 25, 2018, 03:25:30 AM
#60
Ayos itong bagong rank system pero ang tanong nga ay paano ka bibigyan ng merit. Alam ko na madali lang ito ibigay pero sa tingin ko ang mga merit na ito ay ibibigay lang nila sa kanilang mga kakilala at ang worst pa dyan ay sa kanilang mga alt accounts. Medyo pahirapan na talaga ang pag rank pero kung para sa atin naman ito upang ma improve pa natin ang ating post quality ay ayos na rin.

Kung babasahin nyo ang thread sa meta, mababasa mo na may mga merit sources so it means they're also be the one who can give a merit to us and not because kakilala nila tayo. So pag nakita nila that we have a good post then they'll credit us and I'm sure mababawasan na ngayon ang tao dito sa forum dahil madami tatamarin or they can't follow this new rule and at least hindi na tinuloy ni theymos na tanggalin ang bounties.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 14
January 25, 2018, 02:59:07 AM
#59
Medyo mahihirapang mag adjust, pero ok lang basta sa ikabubuti ng forum, although may mga kailangan paring iconsider but I hope na mas mapaganda pa nito ang forum at maiwasan na ang mga low quality posts na ang goal lang ay mapataas ang activities.
sr. member
Activity: 924
Merit: 265
January 25, 2018, 02:46:22 AM
#58
Medyo hindi nga patas sa mga malapit nang mag rank up. Yung tipong araw na lang hihintayin mo.
Ngayon, yung nakuha mong merit kasing taas lang ng mga ka ra-rank up lang.

Halimbawa, mga Sr Member na mapro-promote na, sobrang daming merit pa kailangan nilang punuin kahit kung tutuusin rank-up na sila kinabukasan, at yung mga kaka-rank lang na Full Member magiging kasabayan pa nila.
Dapat depende sa activity yung nakuhang merit, hindi sa rank lang.
Ang pangit ng Timing sa mga tulad ko na 5days nalang ang hinihintay.

panget talaga ng timing lalo na sa mga mag Hero Member na halos 8months din yung hinintay para maging Hero tapos bigla nalagyan ng merit system so bubuunin pa nila yung 250 merit na kulang sa kung ilan meron sila ngayon kaya matagal tagal pa yan
full member
Activity: 672
Merit: 127
January 25, 2018, 02:38:16 AM
#57
Mukang marami nang tatamarin na newbies ngayon  Smiley

Dalawang requirements na para magrank.

Tingin ko mas mapapansin ngayon yung mga post na nkasagot ng tama at nakatulong sa bawat new topics to earn their merit.

Medyo hindi nga patas sa mga malapit nang mag rank up. Yung tipong araw na lang hihintayin mo.
Ngayon, yung nakuha mong merit kasing taas lang ng mga ka ra-rank up lang.

Halimbawa, mga Sr Member na mapro-promote na, sobrang daming merit pa kailangan nilang punuin kahit kung tutuusin rank-up na sila kinabukasan, at yung mga kaka-rank lang na Full Member magiging kasabayan pa nila.
Dapat depende sa activity yung nakuhang merit, hindi sa rank lang.
Ang pangit ng Timing sa mga tulad ko na 5days nalang ang hinihintay.
Yan ang nangyari saken, 2 activity nlang kulang ko until magrank up ako. Sayang hindi pa inabot. Dapat kahit papaano naiconsider ito.

Ok siguro ang meriting system, para maiwasan talaga ang mga nagppost ng mga walang kwentang post sa forum, ang magiging problema lang natin dito eh kung sisipagin ba talagang yung mga nagbibigay ng merit?
Ok lang sana kung lahat sila active, like for example in our case, Full Member, we need a lot of merit in order to became a Sr. Member
Very hard na makapag post ng ganung kadami, mas mahihirapan pa kung walang mag mmerit sa kanila even though maganda or informative naman ang mga sinasabi nila.

Kung lubos naman na maganda ang post mo, marami ang magmemerit sayo siguro. If it's informative enough, then marami ang pwedeng mag merit sa kahit iisang mo lang na post or reply. Wala namang limit sa pag merit sayo kaya sa kahit isang post mo, posible na lima o sampu na ang mag merit. Wala naman sa dami ng posts yun.

Iniisip ko lang na baka mamaya, dumami ang gumawa ng bagong threads para lang magkaroon ng merits. Pero kung informative naman yung mga threads, then ikagaganda pa rin ito ng forum.

Ang downside lang na nakikita ko is mahihirapan yung mga hindi magaling sa english and grammar. Baka hindi sila bigyan ng merits sa ibang sections outside of local.
Hindi parin maiiwasan yung mga newbie poster kasi karamihan talaga sakanila ay hindi nagbabasa sa una

Sa grammar naman, kelangan natin tlagang paghirapan kasi kikita talaga tayo dito while improving ourselves. It will still be a WIN-WIN situation to all of us benefiting with the good threads to read informative topics.

Baka sa susunod na mga signature campaign ay requirement na din yung merit para makasali.
member
Activity: 406
Merit: 11
January 25, 2018, 02:30:31 AM
#56
Ang hirap na talaga mag pa rank ngayon eh pano kung okay naman ang post then nasakanila din kasi kung mag bibigay sila ng merit sa post mo pano sir kung pwede kaya sabihin na i memerit back kita kung imemerit moko ? Pano kung may ganung thread mag kakaroon kaya sya ng negative trust nun sir rickbig?

As I've said earlier, I won't allow this to happen... You don't have to beg para magka merit... Kung maganda talaga ang post mo, then magkakarun ka ng merit... I hope I make this clear to everyone...

If you see someone begging for merit, let me know...
Yes sir Rickbig it is crystal clear to me your intention on the above subject. I hope that the corruption they are talking on the meta thread won't happen. I also hope that the intention of the administrator on why he implemented this rule will be achieve.
full member
Activity: 686
Merit: 146
January 25, 2018, 02:28:40 AM
#55
Maganda, pero iniisip ko paano kung wala namang magme-merit sayo kahit gaano pa ka "quality" ang posts mo? I know we are encouraged to give merits pero we are not forced to do so, diba? I'm still on my my way of sinking it in.
Thats exactly what i'm thinking too,in this case,it's kinda relying on someones judgement before getting those merits.Most of the users only thinks of themselves and how they would earn and i bet they won't bother giving merits even you have a quality post,not if that individual is an honest and sincere to this forum.(though i already give my merit to someone who have a quality post).The whole idea is good indeed and i respect theymos for it,but i think this wont help to prevent shitposting nor farming but simply slow them for ranking up,that as far as i know there are already farmers that earning cents through signature campaigns at the moment.

Another thing is, people who are not that good in english and grammar may have a hard time when they post outside of local.

But I'd have to disagree with you with users who just want to earn and won't bother in giving out merits. There are in fact, many users here who genuinely want to learn and interact with fellow crypto or bitcoin users, and don't even have the thought of earning through this forum. There's more to this forum than just signature campaigns. Medyo magrerely nga lang sa judgment ng iba, pero kung nagandahan sila sa post mo o kaya informative ang sinabi mo, magbibigyan ka ng merits.
global moderator
Activity: 2324
Merit: 1179
While my guitar gently weeps!!!
January 25, 2018, 02:14:03 AM
#54
Ang hirap na talaga mag pa rank ngayon eh pano kung okay naman ang post then nasakanila din kasi kung mag bibigay sila ng merit sa post mo pano sir kung pwede kaya sabihin na i memerit back kita kung imemerit moko ? Pano kung may ganung thread mag kakaroon kaya sya ng negative trust nun sir rickbig?

As I've said earlier, I won't allow this to happen... You don't have to beg para magka merit... Kung maganda talaga ang post mo, then magkakarun ka ng merit... I hope I make this clear to everyone...

If you see someone begging for merit, let me know...
member
Activity: 434
Merit: 10
January 25, 2018, 02:11:58 AM
#53
Hello guys,

Gusto ko sana i discuss natin dito yung regarding sa Merit and New rank system na inimplement ni master theymos.

Here is the link para sa mga hindi pa nakaka alam : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-new-rank-requirements-2818350

Here is the link para makita mo ang MERIT mo and remaining sMerit (Sendable Merit) : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit

Ano sa tingin nyo? may positive and negative impact ba ito sa atin?


In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks. The required scores are:

RankRequired activityRequired merit
Brand new00
Newbie10
Jr Member300
Member6010
Full Member120100
Sr. Member240250
Hero Member480500
LegendaryRandom in the range 775-10301000

You get merit points when someone sends you some for one of your posts. Additionally, when someone sends you merit points, half of those points can be sent by you to other people.

Certain users are designated as "merit sources". They can create new merit out of nothing, up to a limited number per month (which differs per source). I will not be posting a definitive list of merit sources (so that people don't bug them too much), though you'll soon figure out who they are if you pay attention.

There is currently no such thing as a "demerit". I'm hoping that the positive merits alone will be fine. I could add demerits pretty easily later on if necessary, though.

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

The forum ranking system is a bit complicated now... It'd be nice if someone made an infographic explaining activity and merit.

If you want to be a merit source:

Collect TEN posts that have not received nearly enough merit for how good they are, and post quotes for them all in a new Meta thread.

Trivia:

For current members, your initial merit score is equal to the minimum required to your rank. Of that, a certain amount (less than the usual half) is spendable. The spendable amount was calculated based on your current rank and the number of activity points you earned in the last year. A Legendary member who hasn't posted in the last year would still be Legendary, but would not have any spendable merit.

If someone sends you 1 merit, the 0.5 sMerit is not wasted; it is just not shown until you get another merit point.


Para sakin malaki ang magiging ipekto nito upang mapataas ang rank ng isang account kayat napakalaking challenge nito para sa ating mga filipino lalot higit ay sa isang tulad ko na hindi gaanong magaling mag englis, at isa pa sa negatibong pweding mangyari tungkol dito ay pag abuso sa merit system na pweding bigyan ng merit ang kanilang ibang account gamit ang kanilang main account at sa bagay na ito ay posibling dumami ang hindi mag rank up ng agad agad.
full member
Activity: 336
Merit: 106
January 25, 2018, 02:10:37 AM
#52
Ok siguro ang meriting system, para maiwasan talaga ang mga nagppost ng mga walang kwentang post sa forum, ang magiging problema lang natin dito eh kung sisipagin ba talagang yung mga nagbibigay ng merit?
Ok lang sana kung lahat sila active, like for example in our case, Full Member, we need a lot of merit in order to became a Sr. Member
Very hard na makapag post ng ganung kadami, mas mahihirapan pa kung walang mag mmerit sa kanila even though maganda or informative naman ang mga sinasabi nila.

Kung lubos naman na maganda ang post mo, marami ang magmemerit sayo siguro. If it's informative enough, then marami ang pwedeng mag merit sa kahit iisang mo lang na post or reply. Wala namang limit sa pag merit sayo kaya sa kahit isang post mo, posible na lima o sampu na ang mag merit. Wala naman sa dami ng posts yun.

Iniisip ko lang na baka mamaya, dumami ang gumawa ng bagong threads para lang magkaroon ng merits. Pero kung informative naman yung mga threads, then ikagaganda pa rin ito ng forum.

Ang downside lang na nakikita ko is mahihirapan yung mga hindi magaling sa english and grammar. Baka hindi sila bigyan ng merits sa ibang sections outside of local.
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