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yojodojo21

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Activity: 420

Merit: 171

Quote from: camport on March 08, 2018, 10:43:46 AM

So I was interested in how to obtain merit and so I looked at a few profiles of members with a large amount of merits (250+) and saw that a few seemed to be sending merits backwards and forwards to each other repeatedly. I’m assuming they were either to friends or his alts but surely this is against BCT rules and should be cracked down upon?

Maybe you should have Post this complain to Reputation section, or if it pertains to the forum situation with this Merit meta Section is the right section to Post This. And before saying something you should have to be clear with your statement, if you are pointing to somebody else's merits received/send then you should post some proof to it for validation of the issue. accusing somebody is not a good idea without an accurate evidence, you made the right choice not posting some names without evidence or you'll get tagged with your shady complain.

Mister1k

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Activity: 896

Merit: 520

Quote from: Digital_Lord on March 16, 2018, 04:26:32 AM

Quote from: camport on March 08, 2018, 10:43:46 AM

So I was interested in how to obtain merit and so I looked at a few profiles of members with a large amount of merits (250+) and saw that a few seemed to be sending merits backwards and forwards to each other repeatedly. I’m assuming they were either to friends or his alts but surely this is against BCT rules and should be cracked down upon?

That is a whole lot shitty but since you cannot prove anything, I guess there is nothing anyone can be able to do about it. At the end, the merit still favors those who have legendary alts with a lot to dash out but at the end will only end up giving it to the person they feel like if they want to do at all, but at the long shot of it, whether they are giving it to alts, or cycling among friends, what can anyone do? If you see anything fishy though, you can always report on the accusation thread of anyone once you have a proof.

Hilariousandco already doing this good. If you feel that someone utilizing this merit system and trying to scam someone with that. You need to report this to him.
I see that he has taken serious steps like giving negative trust to signature spammers who are all utilising this just exchanging the merits like selling the merits. Hope everything will be resolved if reach him.

LuffyD.Monkey

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Activity: 336

Merit: 101

Quote from: RamonBTC on March 08, 2018, 11:33:28 AM

Quote from: mesmerakyns on March 08, 2018, 11:21:24 AM

Quote from: RamonBTC on March 08, 2018, 10:59:40 AM

Quote from: camport on March 08, 2018, 10:43:46 AM

So I was interested in how to obtain merit and so I looked at a few profiles of members with a large amount of merits (250+) and saw that a few seemed to be sending merits backwards and forwards to each other repeatedly. I’m assuming they were either to friends or his alts but surely this is against BCT rules and should be cracked down upon?

I think you have a point, but the rules doesn’t have that limitation. You have the freedom to send śmerits according to your discretion to a constructive post or someone deserve it. If you have found abusive use of this system, it is better to report it in meta as there is an existing thread about that. And just move this post, as it isn’t belong in Marketplace. Merit System discussion is a forum related issue that can be found in Meta Section. Proof is needed in accusing someone a friend of or an alt if anyone to establish this connection.

If that is really true... Don't you think that will be difficult to prove? Yeah! You are right about proof instead of throwing wild accusation.

Proving something needs more than accusing anyone of anything, proper investigations and technical analysis is needed. That’s why, those who are doing such effort has to be applauded because it’s not a easy job and most shocking is DT (default trust) or other members, doing it for free. To help this forum and the members to have a better place to discuss freely without us being annoyed about spammers.

Yeah, it is not really easy trying to link up some of these accounts, but some are really doing a great job helping to fish out those abusers anyway. The way the merit system is, some will definitely be benefitting a lot from it and most especially some legend that may have several smaller alts to want to pimp up, but for how long before getting caught and it may be like that for now, but over time, some will suffer losing their accounts for such reasons and apparently, some will have to be the scape goats, since merits cannot be deleted.

Digital_Lord

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Quote from: camport on March 08, 2018, 10:43:46 AM

So I was interested in how to obtain merit and so I looked at a few profiles of members with a large amount of merits (250+) and saw that a few seemed to be sending merits backwards and forwards to each other repeatedly. I’m assuming they were either to friends or his alts but surely this is against BCT rules and should be cracked down upon?

That is a whole lot shitty but since you cannot prove anything, I guess there is nothing anyone can be able to do about it. At the end, the merit still favors those who have legendary alts with a lot to dash out but at the end will only end up giving it to the person they feel like if they want to do at all, but at the long shot of it, whether they are giving it to alts, or cycling among friends, what can anyone do? If you see anything fishy though, you can always report on the accusation thread of anyone once you have a proof.

Silberman

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Activity: 2534

Merit: 1338

Quote from: camport on March 08, 2018, 10:43:46 AM

So I was interested in how to obtain merit and so I looked at a few profiles of members with a large amount of merits (250+) and saw that a few seemed to be sending merits backwards and forwards to each other repeatedly. I’m assuming they were either to friends or his alts but surely this is against BCT rules and should be cracked down upon?

If you found some users doing this then report them, create a thread in the meta section of the forum and expose those members to the community if you think they are abusing the system, if you are right someone is going to give a negative rating, there are many people abusing the system but there is not enough people to police it and to look around at every single merited post.

Kevin77

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Activity: 1652

Merit: 1057

Quote from: mesmerakyns on March 08, 2018, 11:21:24 AM

Quote from: RamonBTC on March 08, 2018, 10:59:40 AM

Quote from: camport on March 08, 2018, 10:43:46 AM

So I was interested in how to obtain merit and so I looked at a few profiles of members with a large amount of merits (250+) and saw that a few seemed to be sending merits backwards and forwards to each other repeatedly. I’m assuming they were either to friends or his alts but surely this is against BCT rules and should be cracked down upon?

I think you have a point, but the rules doesn’t have that limitation. You have the freedom to send śmerits according to your discretion to a constructive post or someone deserve it. If you have found abusive use of this system, it is better to report it in meta as there is an existing thread about that. And just move this post, as it isn’t belong in Marketplace. Merit System discussion is a forum related issue that can be found in Meta Section. Proof is needed in accusing someone a friend of or an alt if anyone to establish this connection.

If that is really true... Don't you think that will be difficult to prove? Yeah! You are right about proof instead of throwing wild accusation.

Apparently, it would be difficult to prove and it would just count as mere accusation as the person in question can easily deny it unless it is just glaring to the point that a sane human can know that a particular post does not deserve a huge merit. I have seen a shit post with a huge merit before and I just smiled, funny enough, someone already reported the linked accounts and the person was dealt with, so at the end, there are some that are being punished if glaring.

Daboy_Lyle

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Activity: 532

Merit: 148

Quote from: camport on March 08, 2018, 10:43:46 AM

So I was interested in how to obtain merit and so I looked at a few profiles of members with a large amount of merits (250+) and saw that a few seemed to be sending merits backwards and forwards to each other repeatedly. I’m assuming they were either to friends or his alts but surely this is against BCT rules and should be cracked down upon?

If you remember those users you can report them on here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-suspected-users-that-are-abusing-merit-30-2896910 they're not following rules that's the big problem on this forum. Following rules may assured to avoid account being punished. When the merit comes there are many problems because of that like account farming and giving merit to each other which is not allowed.

nniecan001

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Activity: 322

Merit: 21

Quote from: camport on March 08, 2018, 10:43:46 AM

So I was interested in how to obtain merit and so I looked at a few profiles of members with a large amount of merits (250+) and saw that a few seemed to be sending merits backwards and forwards to each other repeatedly. I’m assuming they were either to friends or his alts but surely this is against BCT rules and should be cracked down upon?

For me, it's their own rights if they want to send who ever they want inside the bitcointalk.org . As long as no evidence of selling or buying merit, and of course, there's system and process too that may review all the merit sent if that is accountable to be awarded. I think some people did that , cause they need to survive and rank up here, for being honest, it's hard to have merit cause it's very limited.

anthinguy21

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Activity: 280

Merit: 101

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I think you should create a topic at Reputation section to report about this case. I can ensure that you'll get merit for your work and all these account will be tagged because of abusing merit system. Although they know but they think they're really lucky and they'll not be founded out. LOL

GoldenLad

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Activity: 266

Merit: 12

Well, some members do it and they will always give you good reasons why the other person deserves the merit. If truly this is how the merit system will be then its not what we hope for. But the good thing here is that, there is less shit posting in the forum now since the merit system started. OP, if you notice and have a genuine investigation concerning members whom are sharing merit to each others then simply report to moderators with proofs and references and they will look into it. And I think this should be moved to the Meta section.

solarion

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Activity: 966

Merit: 513

Quote from: Donceng on March 12, 2018, 10:07:02 AM

Quote from: siti25 on March 08, 2018, 04:38:02 PM

I also see the same thing, and this is less effective. or maybe this could be a trap for those who have alt accounts. or share the merit with their friends, but on the other hand it becomes one of the greatest guidelines when so many new accounts are scattered so we can conclude that the quality will be more in priority at this time

true to what you say, sometimes not just share the reward with a friend but there is also with greed someone wants to earn a lot, he has made some accounts and the reward is only given to akunya own. is it fair, whereas many beginners need merit, to raise rank, but here in need of quality post to get merit, but most people do not understand what kind of quality postings.

Bros, I really understand about the low rank guys worries. They are not go up with the activity alone, after the merit implementation by our moderator theymos. All we need to do is try to gather more merits.
You and op has mentioned some of the people randomly get merits each other. For this issue hilariousandco has opened a thread on meta section and tag the people for abussing merit system. There are many signature spammers found by him and added with negative trust. You no need to worry about this at all now. If you are worry that someone not have potential post to get merit and someone merit each other for spam post. You directly report them. That kind of act are most welcome.

Donceng

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Quote from: siti25 on March 08, 2018, 04:38:02 PM

I also see the same thing, and this is less effective. or maybe this could be a trap for those who have alt accounts. or share the merit with their friends, but on the other hand it becomes one of the greatest guidelines when so many new accounts are scattered so we can conclude that the quality will be more in priority at this time

true to what you say, sometimes not just share the reward with a friend but there is also with greed someone wants to earn a lot, he has made some accounts and the reward is only given to akunya own. is it fair, whereas many beginners need merit, to raise rank, but here in need of quality post to get merit, but most people do not understand what kind of quality postings.

upsidedown75

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Activity: 1288

Merit: 1036

Quote from: RamonBTC on March 08, 2018, 10:59:40 AM

Quote from: camport on March 08, 2018, 10:43:46 AM

So I was interested in how to obtain merit and so I looked at a few profiles of members with a large amount of merits (250+) and saw that a few seemed to be sending merits backwards and forwards to each other repeatedly. I’m assuming they were either to friends or his alts but surely this is against BCT rules and should be cracked down upon?

I think you have a point, but the rules doesn’t have that limitation. You have the freedom to send śmerits according to your discretion to a constructive post or someone deserve it. If you have found abusive use of this system, it is better to report it in meta as there is an existing thread about that. And just move this post, as it isn’t belong in Marketplace. Merit System discussion is a forum related issue that can be found in Meta Section. Proof is needed in accusing someone a friend of or an alt of anyone to establish this connection.

Yes and you can only complain if you just see some random shit post being given merit and then you can put two and two together to see some alt accounts abusing the merit system which I can see so many people and legends have been doing already to hunt down such accounts.

As you said though, there is nothing anyone can do, and only if someone finds your post constructive enough or helpful, will they give you merit, so we all have to live with it.

jossiel

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Quote from: camport on March 08, 2018, 07:30:10 PM

I don't have proof but handing out 7 merits to the same person for comments that deserve none and receiving some back in return is highly suspect.

Just post the link and let the higher ones decide for that post if it deserved to received 7 - merit.

There are others who are even sending more than 10 to 50 merits and those are suspicious ones so if you are aware and you highly suspect those people that are giving that amount of sMerit.

Put the link here.

Bitlord88

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First of all I am impressed by those people who came up with that merit increasing move, I wouldn't actually say it is 100% unfair because they actually did the effort and way to fight the more even unfair merit system, you see, for us new members it is actually impossible to rank up given the required merit to progress, in my case I need 90 merits and that is just so impossible, at least a very very very small percentage of members here rarely give merits.
To those who found a strategy to have merits, I'll commend their smart asses though if you look at it on another perspective, yes it is quite a bit not fair given some members here really take their time to earn those diamond merits.

camport

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Merit: 3

I don't have proof but handing out 7 merits to the same person for comments that deserve none and receiving some back in return is highly suspect.

Johnyz

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Quote from: camport on March 08, 2018, 10:43:46 AM

So I was interested in how to obtain merit and so I looked at a few profiles of members with a large amount of merits (250+) and saw that a few seemed to be sending merits backwards and forwards to each other repeatedly. I’m assuming they were either to friends or his alts but surely this is against BCT rules and should be cracked down upon?

Well merit system are being tackled so many times, and if you have your proof on this better to post it here and let people judge it, cause it might be accidental or they just really deserve to receive the merit.

jossiel

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Merit: 636

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Quote from: camport on March 08, 2018, 10:43:46 AM

So I was interested in how to obtain merit and so I looked at a few profiles of members with a large amount of merits (250+) and saw that a few seemed to be sending merits backwards and forwards to each other repeatedly. I’m assuming they were either to friends or his alts but surely this is against BCT rules and should be cracked down upon?

Its hard to prove something if you have no basis but you have to tell us who are these people who are abusing the merit system.

And check out those posts that are being merited, you can see if they are only sending merit for nothing or they are sending merit for a reason and those posts must be merited.

Those people that has large amount of sMerits are called merit source.

Quote from: Tyrantt on March 08, 2018, 12:42:40 PM

If you come across someone exchanging merit, ppint them out.

The only thing OP you have to do is this quoted word above^.

ralle14

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Activity: 3374

Merit: 1922

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I made a report yesterday on the meta section. I don't have any proof that the accounts are connected but they are surely abusing the system because of the non helpful posts that they merited.

Quote from: camport on March 08, 2018, 10:43:46 AM

So I was interested in how to obtain merit and so I looked at a few profiles of members with a large amount of merits (250+) and saw that a few seemed to be sending merits backwards and forwards to each other repeatedly. I’m assuming they were either to friends or his alts but surely this is against BCT rules and should be cracked down upon?

There's nothing mentioned on the rules but according to the FAQ thread by hilarious this is frowned upon. Users that are caught abusing the system will get tagged by DT2 members.

siti25

hero member

Activity: 574

Merit: 503

I also see the same thing, and this is less effective. or maybe this could be a trap for those who have alt accounts. or share the merit with their friends, but on the other hand it becomes one of the greatest guidelines when so many new accounts are scattered so we can conclude that the quality will be more in priority at this time

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