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Quote from: Betfair on July 24, 2018, 08:01:51 PM

how do you earn sMerits? i have been on this board and never earned any sMerits after they came up with new merit system.I just dont understand how it works.

Most people seem to think a merit is a merit. and they aren't aware that there are different types of awardable meits. I wrote an article about it on my "walking the plank" blog. You can read the article here-
https://talkmerit.com/the-source/index.php/articles/the-bitcoin-talk-merit-system

I started to write an article about making good posts, but I got a bit discouraged, as there didn't seem to be much interest in it. It was intended to cover the whole process of forum participation right from the choosing of your member name. You can view the start here -
https://talkmerit.com/the-source/index.php/articles/how-to-create-good-posts
I might finish it if there is any interest.

I have received over 500 merits since the system started. If you want to look at my posts that received merits, then you can view them on a list created bu LoyceV. They are listedon this page, together with a list of the threads that I have awarded with merits -
http://talkmerit.com/projects/merit-history.html

I'm reluctant to create a guide for merit hunters, as I think that should be discouraged. Active forum participation should bring its own rewards.

fomiche

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Merit should be in abundance so that all members can participate in this effectively. More strict action on merit abuse should follow this to prevent abuse cases.

darklus123

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on July 24, 2018, 02:45:22 PM

The forum definitely needs more merit sources, and ones that cover under-merited sections especially. On the other hand, people with sMerits to give out don't want to lower their standards too much, and I'd say that really good posts DO get merits eventually. Sometimes it takes a bit before people notice posts. And if a member consistently writes quality stuff, he'll eventually get merits.

Currently , I am seeing merited posts on local boards more than the posts on the global threads. I don't know if that is healthy but eventually the merit is still moving forward. I agree that we need more merit sources tho only some users in the forum are interested that meets the requirements of the administration. Hopefully more active members can gain the knowledge and power to provide merits to high quality posts. Not to the point that only the best posts are always being merited.

Plus I see no point in meriting too much to those posts that has already alot of merits.

Betfair

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Quote from: Jet Cash on July 24, 2018, 03:27:31 PM

I've just looked in my merit wallet, and I've got 160 sMerits to award ( please note that I didn't say "give away"). That's 32 people from the local boards who could pick up 5 merits each, if they submitted one post to my translation project. It must be over a month since somebody submitted a post. In most cases other members award merits to the posts as well, so 5 is really just the start.

I've been spending so much time looking for meritable posts, that my other activities have started to suffer, and I've had to back off a bit. I've also tried to improve my search efficiency, If I am looking at the beginners board, then I start with page 5, almost everything before that is bumped up crap. If you guys want to earn some merits for decent posts, then stop the beggars and thieves that are driving away the people who want to help you.

how do you earn sMerits? i have been on this board and never earned any sMerits after they came up with new merit system.I just dont understand how it works.

Ojengonggu

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I would rather look for merit and give smerit by following my signature program and looking for quality posts when I open one of the topics and read it carefully

Nino Ambarawa

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I am not sure about the new merit in invent as it is now, this will be an additional lesson for all of us, essentially do not be lazy to read and find out about the information contained in this forum.

Jet Cash

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I've just looked in my merit wallet, and I've got 160 sMerits to award ( please note that I didn't say "give away"). That's 32 people from the local boards who could pick up 5 merits each, if they submitted one post to my translation project. It must be over a month since somebody submitted a post. In most cases other members award merits to the posts as well, so 5 is really just the start.

I've been spending so much time looking for meritable posts, that my other activities have started to suffer, and I've had to back off a bit. I've also tried to improve my search efficiency, If I am looking at the beginners board, then I start with page 5, almost everything before that is bumped up crap. If you guys want to earn some merits for decent posts, then stop the beggars and thieves that are driving away the people who want to help you.

The Sceptical Chymist

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Quote from: LoyceV on July 02, 2018, 01:09:35 AM

A good post can be just one word.

Yep, and I've been known to merit funny meme posts. One-word or one-picture posts worthy of merit are more the exception than the rule here, however. With most posts being total garbage, really witty, clever, or funny posts are a pleasant rarity.

Quote from: darklus123 on July 04, 2018, 08:46:48 PM

We still also cannot deny the fact that it still also has a lot of negative effects since there are really quality posts that are not being recognized.

The forum definitely needs more merit sources, and ones that cover under-merited sections especially. On the other hand, people with sMerits to give out don't want to lower their standards too much, and I'd say that really good posts DO get merits eventually. Sometimes it takes a bit before people notice posts. And if a member consistently writes quality stuff, he'll eventually get merits.

coinnumber

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Activity: 504

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Holding merits and not giving it out is a thing I don't really understand why it's like that but I recently noticed that it's not the fault of the high rank members not giving merits even when you post constructive and meaningful post. Because there are some who are just here to red those high rank account sorry to say that, so I believe that's the reason why most of them are extremely careful when it comes to merit issues because no one what's is btt account to be affected with red!

darklus123

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@jet native speakers can really feel the effect of the merit system. Tho even if theymos created it to fix the spam problem. We still also cannot deny the fact that it still also has a lot of negative effects since there are really quality posts that are not being recognized. Tho, I think that is just healthy since anytime or sooner that can still be recognized. Unlike the abusing of merit which really sucks.

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Quote from: LoyceV on July 04, 2018, 01:11:40 AM

Quote from: TitanAI on July 03, 2018, 04:25:15 PM

P.S. Please don't tell me that you will read till page 976 of a thread or whatever big number page, just, please ... ok? * I know 976 was just an example, but ... please

I started following that thread when it had 400 pages. Since then, I've read about 95% of the posts. Let's say I've read 450 out of 976 pages by now.
That's the difference between just dumping a post in a Spam Megathread, and actually caring for the content of a thread.

Yeah, I fully understand, but I already mentioned that 1 or 2 people read so many pages from a thread, my bad, you might be the third one

Peace and good luck.

Jet Cash

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I'm a bit sad today, yesterday I deleted the Italian board in the Fit to Talk English project. A quality translated post was guaranteed to earn at least 5 merits, if it was of sufficient quality to be posted in Ivory Tower. The board didn't have a single post or expression of interest, and this is despite the fact that Italian language speakers have been complaining about the shortage of merits for them.

As I've posted many times, there is no shortage of merits, and don't forget that every two merits awarded creates another merit for the community to award. The fact that they are not being awarded recklessly shows that the community is taking a responsible attitude towards the merit system.

LoyceV

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Quote from: TitanAI on July 03, 2018, 04:25:15 PM

P.S. Please don't tell me that you will read till page 976 of a thread or whatever big number page, just, please ... ok? * I know 976 was just an example, but ... please

I started following that thread when it had 400 pages. Since then, I've read about 95% of the posts. Let's say I've read 450 out of 976 pages by now.
That's the difference between just dumping a post in a Spam Megathread, and actually caring for the content of a thread.

TitanAI

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Quote from: LoyceV on July 02, 2018, 01:09:35 AM

Quote from: TitanAI on July 01, 2018, 06:08:41 PM

I don't think replying gets you any merit points though, there are good threads with tons of replies, not many scroll through all the posts and read them. Everyone usually reads between 3-10 pages and that's all, what if someone on page 100 had a good opinion on-topic, who will merit that one?

It depends on the thread. If it's a Spam Megathread where thousands of people repeat the same thing over and over again, it should be trashed, not rewarded. You're already saying nobody is going to read the thread, which means you shouldn't reply there.
On the other hand, if it's an informative thread and on page 976 the OP posts the biggest news in a long time, I give it 5 Merit, because I think everybody who sees the thread should read that post.

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I understand that the merit system was created to stop spammers and shit-posters, but what about real posters that just say their 2 cents about a topic and that's it? I mean why does a post need to be 1000 lines with 10 million arguments(I probably exaggerated here:) to be considered a good quality post?

A good post can be just one word.

I've seen good threads with lots of pages too, let's face it... nobody reads more than a bunch of pages... maybe 1 or 2 persons that really read whole pages of a thread.

P.S. Please don't tell me that you will read till page 976 of a thread or whatever big number page, just, please ... ok? * I know 976 was just an example, but ... please

Theb

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I do agree on what have others have said about more and more members are now focused on writing quality content and expecting to receive a merit that they tend to forget to send sMerits themselves or they are just purposely keeping their sMerits as their is no kind of consequence whatsoever on just keeping it away. Also we cannot force them on handing out their sMerits just for the purpose of increasing the merits being given in the forum, it would give a horrible effect on the merit system overall. There is no clear solution for this one as the way I see it we cannot satisfy both cleaning the forum from spammers and shitposters and at the same time make worthy members rank up fast by receiving a considerable amount of merits regularly.

Jet Cash

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A lot of great ideas are spawned in chill-out threads. It's the sycophantic spamming that is annoying, and it is never original.

darklus123

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Quote from: Jet Cash on July 02, 2018, 02:55:21 AM

One of the downsides of the merit system is that many members see it as a payment for posting. As a result of this, they tend to write posts in the expectation of being rewarded for their efforts. You should enjoy the interaction and information exchange in the Bitcoin Talk forum, and not look on membership as a career choice.

well in the end it still boils down to the same problem as before. That is the reason why i don't like the idea of having such merit sources. Well as reality do always comes up to why people or users stays in this forum to gain something more than knowledge and that is why people should always hope to be rewarded by their efforts on every posts even if there are still no real discussions happening

Jet Cash

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One of the downsides of the merit system is that many members see it as a payment for posting. As a result of this, they tend to write posts in the expectation of being rewarded for their efforts. You should enjoy the interaction and information exchange in the Bitcoin Talk forum, and not look on membership as a career choice.

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Quote from: finaleshot2016 on July 01, 2018, 06:27:32 PM

This is also a problem in our local, there are many good posters there and sharing facts and ideas but few people gives merits.
They didn't know that it is hard to create contents and they didn't support each other.

Some of the high rank members don't want to give some merits because they're happy farming bounties. They forget where they started (local) so they're living happily with their money.

I’m not sure about that, there’s many other reasons why people have slowed up handing out Merit. Have a read through the thread.

LoyceV

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Quote from: TitanAI on July 01, 2018, 06:08:41 PM

I don't think replying gets you any merit points though, there are good threads with tons of replies, not many scroll through all the posts and read them. Everyone usually reads between 3-10 pages and that's all, what if someone on page 100 had a good opinion on-topic, who will merit that one?

It depends on the thread. If it's a Spam Megathread where thousands of people repeat the same thing over and over again, it should be trashed, not rewarded. You're already saying nobody is going to read the thread, which means you shouldn't reply there.
On the other hand, if it's an informative thread and on page 976 the OP posts the biggest news in a long time, I give it 5 Merit, because I think everybody who sees the thread should read that post.

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I understand that the merit system was created to stop spammers and shit-posters, but what about real posters that just say their 2 cents about a topic and that's it? I mean why does a post need to be 1000 lines with 10 million arguments(I probably exaggerated here:) to be considered a good quality post?

A good post can be just one word.

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