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full member
Activity: 406
Merit: 109
July 01, 2018, 02:59:51 AM
#43
Is it just me or has handing out Merit become a lot less common place now? I rarely see anybody handing it out now, certainly a lot less than a couple of months ago.

As a Merit Source (I don’t care if people know) I like to look around for good posts & tend to hand out at least 2 a day.

Do we, as a community, need to do more to reward high quality posts, should we be more actively looking to hand out Merit?

I guess when the system was first implemented those who weren’t Merit Sources had more sMerit & naturally would be more likely to hand it out. It’s been a while now though & lots of posters may simply have run out.

There has definitely been a big drop in the amount of posts I see Merited though.
If you still have sMerit do your bit, actively look to reward good posters.

I find the reason being that most of the profiles which were initially provided base merits are out of smerits by giving it to other people, later on since they themselves have not received any new merits, they are unable to give smerits to other profiles as well. Forum is mostly dependable on Merit Sources to receive merits now.
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 420
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July 01, 2018, 02:20:10 AM
#42
I for sure agree! I am having trouble ranking up and I want to look trustworthy for my ANN! I feel no one is giving it out much anymore. Maybe the merit sources, but no one else. I personally have not even see merit sources give any out but then again I haven't been looking for it so I am sure they do.
Looking at your posting history - it not gonna work until you change your posting habit. I do not see any good post that is to contribute for the forum. My friendly suggestion - change your posting behavior, be a part of the forum. 
hero member
Activity: 1246
Merit: 588
July 01, 2018, 12:53:55 AM
#41
After all i still consider myself as of the moment as a free merit distributor. I usually give my smerit just whenever I like the post or just feelin like I should give it to that certain posts.

I've also tried distributing my smerit by posting a certain thread to give out my smerit which is I think not a good idea even if the purpose is to help newbies posts who has not been seen by me.

That is why i have concluded that some other users who has still smerit to give are doing the same thing as me. They are just handing it out freely when they across to those certain posts. Instead of looking for some good posts having the purpose of distributing merit and that might be the reason why it seems that merit distribution is drying up
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 359
June 30, 2018, 11:48:51 PM
#40

Missed a sitter just before Aguero made it 4-3. That would have been 4-4 if Messi had scored a relatively easy chance.

Messi and Ronaldo are gone. There is a very little chance for them to play in the next world cup. I am very sad for them.

Meanwhile for your first post. I guess being active is not what merit sources should force on. Instead, the members who want merits should be active on this forum, engaging, making a good writing, analyzing, etc. It will make sources job easier if members going active and worthy, rather than otherwise, and it is not a hard thing to do to be an active member and a worthy one.
legendary
Activity: 2240
Merit: 2174
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June 30, 2018, 11:47:02 PM
#39
You are true. But it is really very hard to find HQ post around spam post.

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

Exactly I am looking for it. If I found some post that helpful for forum and forum members, I consider it as a quality post.
copper member
Activity: 112
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June 30, 2018, 11:11:55 PM
#38
I for sure agree! I am having trouble ranking up and I want to look trustworthy for my ANN! I feel no one is giving it out much anymore. Maybe the merit sources, but no one else. I personally have not even see merit sources give any out but then again I haven't been looking for it so I am sure they do.
legendary
Activity: 2982
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June 30, 2018, 06:03:27 PM
#37
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The main problem is the greed. 99% of the people coming to the forum (after the BTC hit the news)are coming for the cash and don't care about the technology nor the possibilities at all. They don't respect the forum nor the founders because there's enough freedom here and they can abuse it and they become even more greedy.

Somebody aked me some time ago on FB how many compaigns  im into at the moment, I said none. He said that he have aroud 80 at the same time and he was wondering how his friend was capable of "working" on 200 with his 20ish alts..
It's just discussing.
 

Yes, to me this last week has been sad to see that even in the Spanish board, they are appearing more and more newcomers with no intention of being a part of the forum, but to earn some money. This is particularly sad to me, because the Spanish board was a kind of mental refuge to me, for the conversations in there were used to be fresh, well-argumented, intelligent and one could learn many things in there.
But, regarding greed, this is maybe easy: do not give merit to people with a lot of bounties reports, do not let them rank-up.
Nevertheless, I get the point, this is fu***ing sad to see all these people "greeding" around.
legendary
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June 30, 2018, 05:55:45 PM
#36
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The main problem is the greed. 99% of the people coming to the forum (after the BTC hit the news)are coming for the cash and don't care about the technology nor the possibilities at all. They don't respect the forum nor the founders because there's enough freedom here and they can abuse it and they become even more greedy.

Somebody aked me some time ago on FB how many compaigns  im into at the moment, I said none. He said that he have aroud 80 at the same time and he was wondering how his friend was capable of "working" on 200 with his 20ish alts..
It's just discussing.
 
legendary
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June 30, 2018, 05:33:06 PM
#35
The problem is not so much in the merit drying out, it's more like many people now are focused on getting merit and that is what is wrong. Everyone writing with the only purpose of ranking up, same threads with different names, newbie guides,tips all over the forum.

I'm trying to give away all my merits to the newbies, but lately nothing fresh is coming up, so im meriting from time to time the "usual suspects".

And the results now is that we have a higher quality spam, thats all.


jajaja... you are absolutely right. Last week I had the misfortune of running into one of these "shitnewbies", whose only goal was to earn merits by copying another's ideas, or making whatever to earn some. To me was kind of sad seeing how this person actually got merits, enough to become a member, but, even so, it is not for me to decide who deserve merits, we all have many different points of views.


About the higher quality spam, I think that depends, again on the personal vision. Despite the fact of merit beggers with the costume of a "nice poster", so easy to see, maybe we need to open our minds and think about that in absolute terms. I mean: who deserves to become member? and then, full member? and then...?
To me the most important of all is the attitude the user has towards the forum, so, if I smell merits beggers, no matter the custom they use, I put them immediately on my ignored list, but there are others in between the line, wanting to rank-up but also trying their best. So, as usual, this is a personal matter, I'm afraid. The point, from my perspective, is to show that ranking-up is not so difficult if you care about the forum...
legendary
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June 30, 2018, 03:46:55 PM
#34
The problem is not so much in the merit drying out, it's more like many people now are focused on getting merit and that is what is wrong. Everyone writing with the only purpose of ranking up, same threads with different names, newbie guides,tips all over the forum.

I'm trying to give away all my merits to the newbies, but lately nothing fresh is coming up, so im meriting from time to time the "usual suspects".

And the results now is that we have a higher quality spam, thats all.
legendary
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Merit: 9709
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June 30, 2018, 01:36:39 PM
#33
I've got 74 sMerit which doesn't get touched until I've awarded all my current source merits. I'm not sure how you can factor that into your calculation. Also, I don't know what my source merit allotment is, it just seems to get topped up by a few merits every day.

Every day you should get back the source merits you spent 30 days ago.



We all get a different amount of source Merit. As a more respected member you probably get 10 x the amount I get per month.
copper member
Activity: 630
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June 30, 2018, 01:35:41 PM
#32
Thanks a lot for the observation.Junior members are particularly  at a disadvantage. I see people with a lot of activities, well over 200, at least 6months old without  a single merit.

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You are talking about them (above) kind of Jr. Members? Most of their posts are "Amazing project!", "nice project", "Good project" and then - done!
Or, you are talking about yourself? You seems not doing "Good project" type things but not much better than them too. You will need to improve a lot my friend.

The whole idea behind introducing merit system was to stop these shit posters to get ranked up. And it's working. I personally do not mind if these Jr. Members stay Jr. Member for the next infinity years (until the forum shuts down).

It will be nice to encourage them with some merits so they can upgrade to the level of a member
- You might need some encouragements from here: List of members achieved 0 to 100 and plus merits <=== All these members were once Jr. Member.
jr. member
Activity: 370
Merit: 1
June 30, 2018, 01:33:49 PM
#31

Wild JC!!!! Cool

I had to do something, my merits are still wet. Smiley
What's with your signature, can you explain to me what fit to talk is all about. I followed the link but don't really understand the forum. Thank you
legendary
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June 30, 2018, 01:19:56 PM
#30
Thanks a lot for the observation.Junior members are particularly  at a disadvantage. I see people with a lot of activities, well over 200, at least 6months old without  a single merit. It will be nice to encourage them with some merits so they can upgrade to the level of a member

If you want to go to the supermarket, you need to use a pedal cycle. Using an excercise bike involves a lot of activity, but it doesn't get the shopping into the cupboard.

All the frezied activity for merit is counter-productive. Not only does it give the poster with an over active mouseoid a bad reputation, but it clogs up the boards, and hides the meritable posts. Stop being selfish, and give the good posts a chance to see the light and germinate.
legendary
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June 30, 2018, 01:14:15 PM
#29
I like it, but I always feel like I'm going to be questioned if I merit "not bad" posts. I already wonder what people might think about some of my Merit choices. I'm not sure if that's a rational fear though.
We have built this by establishing a "Merit Inquisition" the lasts months. We need to get rid of it, as I said, we know each other enough to see that most of us are not merit farmers or abusers, carajo  Tongue

I think many people don't realize yet that Merit doesn't mean "I agree", posts can be worth reading, but that doesn't necessarily mean I have to agree with them.
Precisely what I was trying to say: this is not a "like" system, we don't need to "agree" with others statements, just to respect that.


I do the same. Or someone who's recently merited me (like OP): I don't dare leave him Merit now. Too many witch hunts going on, even though I have absolutely no use for Merit (except for my ego), and the only use I have for sMerit is encouraging people to improve the forum. I'm going to do it anyway now, he's created a thread that lead to an interesting discussion, that's worth reading.


Yep, I too stop meriting those who have merit recently me, but the reality is that when somebody merits me I use to take a look at his/her profile, and sometimes I discover great posts/quotes on it, yet I stop meriting the person, just in case.
We need to stop the witch hunts between us, let use this energy for those who truly are shameless farming accounts.
Besides, if a post has been merited, and one believes the post to deserve a merit, then merit the post. The only result of doing so is that the poster will rank-up due to his/her good activity. Where's the harm?
newbie
Activity: 196
Merit: 0
June 30, 2018, 01:12:58 PM
#28
Thanks a lot for the observation.Junior members are particularly  at a disadvantage. I see people with a lot of activities, well over 200, at least 6months old without  a single merit. It will be nice to encourage them with some merits so they can upgrade to the level of a member
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legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
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June 30, 2018, 01:06:14 PM
#27
I've got 74 sMerit which doesn't get touched until I've awarded all my current source merits. I'm not sure how you can factor that into your calculation. Also, I don't know what my source merit allotment is, it just seems to get topped up by a few merits every day.

Every day you should get back the source merits you spent 30 days ago.

legendary
Activity: 3556
Merit: 9709
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June 30, 2018, 01:03:41 PM
#26
I've become radical. I've awarded a few posts with 2 merits recently. Smiley

On the rewarding of 'normal' posts - If I have time, and I see that a guy has made a sensible post ( what I would call a useful one), I have a look at his activity. If 50% or so of his first page on the recent post list are 'useful', then I will award merits for the block.

Yeah I do often give Merit for ‘good’ & not great/high quality posts, mainly because there are lots of good posts but not that many great/high quality one’s.

Oh me too, I reckon France 1-2 Argentina. Messi is about to explode into this World Cup after a slow start I think.

No Merit for Messi today.

Missed a sitter just before Aguero made it 4-3. That would have been 4-4 if Messi had scored a relatively easy chance.
legendary
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Merit: 16489
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June 30, 2018, 12:59:58 PM
#25
~if you find a really good post, why don't give 5 or more?
I never give a lot: if a post is worth a lot of Merit, I'm pretty sure I won't be the only one meriting that post.
Top Merit-sender suchmoon switched to sending 5 Merit at once (most of the time) 6 weeks ago. Up to yesterday, he sent 2394 Merit sent to 534 unique users in 1052 transactions. I prefer to merit as many different posts as possible, but I still can't get through my Merit supply.
I'm now considering just meriting posts in my Merit history again, that would be an easy solution to distribute more Merit (to lower ranks).

The problem is, you can not set a standard when it comes to give merits. Different people have different points/variables for analyzing a post to determine in which category the posts falls in.
That doesn't matter, personal opinions average out as enough different people spend Merit. I don't think I've sent anybody enough sMerit to rank up from just my supply. That means users need the opinion (and Merit) from multiple other users.

Yeah, of course, so we must just change our mindset and don't judge others if they give someone 5 merits for some post we don't agree or think that deserves that, or give merits to the same person if this person is doing a pretty decent job
I think many people don't realize yet that Merit doesn't mean "I agree", posts can be worth reading, but that doesn't necessarily mean I have to agree with them.

Every single member has the right to decide for himself which posts deserve his hard-earned sMerits.
I think merit abuse is a fair exception to this list, and many people have been sending Merit to shitposts with the sole purpose of ranking up.

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Sarcastic remarks, statistics, images or not, Merit or decentralization analysis or whatever... In the end, a quite surprising mix of high-Merited members might come out of that... Smiley
Agreed.
legendary
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June 30, 2018, 12:50:52 PM
#24
If people gain Merit, they all have the liberty to decide what to do with it.


That includes our right to try to keep sMerits away from the Twitbook bounty hunters.


Absolutely. Smiley
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