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Topic: Merit field populating with a zero. Why? - page 2. (Read 457 times)

donator
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October 30, 2024, 01:28:19 AM
#14
Obviously not a big deal though. Perhaps, activities in the forum requires a lot of carefulness, if everything is made very easy for us here there gonna be a lot of mistakes. Deleting the zero and inserting the numbers of merit we want to give a user shouldn't be stressful at all IMO.

Dude, I have like 1300 merits to send right now and getting more daily. Anything to make handing that out easier should be looked at.


Let’s say it populated with a 1 instead of a zero.
I click +merit, click send.
(2 steps)

Probably that will make our forum life a little easier. But it will remain the same for the merit sources. I believe most merit sources do not send 1 merit to the post that they like and think it's worth reading. I see LoyceV mostly sends 4 merits, while fillippone likes the number 3, and other merit sources might have their favorite number. So, it is not possible to customize it for everyone.

Since merit sources mostly spend time on sending merits every day, no one should forget about them. So, if you want to customize it, the box should be blank instead of a zero or a one. That is my personal opinion if theymos is going to tweak this little thing. Otherwise, I am still okay with how it works.

Merit sources are incentivized to give out all their merits. This has led to lazy merit sources dishing out more merits per post. It also makes it easier to circle merit with your friends while leaving less tracks. I think maybe if it were easier to give out just 1 merit, we’d see less concentration in merit circles and more merits going to more users.
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October 30, 2024, 12:40:23 AM
#13
Let’s say it populated with a 1 instead of a zero.
I click +merit, click send.
(2 steps)

Probably that will make our forum life a little easier. But it will remain the same for the merit sources. I believe most merit sources do not send 1 merit to the post that they like and think it's worth reading. I see LoyceV mostly sends 4 merits, while fillippone likes the number 3, and other merit sources might have their favorite number. So, it is not possible to customize it for everyone.

Since merit sources mostly spend time on sending merits every day, no one should forget about them. So, if you want to customize it, the box should be blank instead of a zero or a one. That is my personal opinion if theymos is going to tweak this little thing. Otherwise, I am still okay with how it works.
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October 30, 2024, 12:12:00 AM
#12

Obviously not a big deal though. Perhaps, activities in the forum requires a lot of carefulness, if everything is made very easy for us here there gonna be a lot of mistakes. Deleting the zero and inserting the numbers of merit we want to give a user shouldn't be stressful at all IMO.
donator
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October 29, 2024, 11:47:16 PM
#11
If you want to send any merit less than 10, you can let the zero number there, and type 1, 2, to 9, you will have 01, 02, to 09, and when you click on Send, it works, I test it by sending 1 merit to your post with the format of 01.

Yeah, that works - I’ve tried it myself, but since I’m usually not on my phone when I’m posting, I get where OgNasty’s coming from. For a user like him (and probably some others) who mainly use their phone for reading, replying, and sending merit, it can take up a bit of time. Let’s see if the forum makes a tweak; it’s a simple fix. If it’s needed, they’ll probably go for it.

Yes, it is indeed a pain in the ass that could be incredibly simplified and it should be considering it is a way to positively interact with others here, which should be encouraged.

Let’s say I want to send someone a merit as it is now.
I tap +merit, tap on the merit box (oops finger registered as on the left side of the zero), touch, hold for a second, drag to the right, release, delete, type a 1, click send.
(9 steps)

Let’s say it is blank.
I click +merit, tap on the merit box, enter a 1, click send.
(4 steps)

Let’s say it populated with a 1 instead of a zero.
I click +merit, click send.
(2 steps)
hero member
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October 29, 2024, 11:37:36 PM
#10
Is everyone deleting this zero every time they leave merit like I am?
Yes I do delete the zero before leaving merits but I don't see it to be a big deal, because it makes me remain conscious when sending out merits, at least it makes us reduce the speed at which we give out merits. Although I feel how crazy it's when someone wants to leave merits to the other person's profile, and meriting someone using mobile phone seems to be very boring but using pc makes it very easier like you wouldn't have to stress yourself that much with just a backspace everything is off and then you can send the numbers of merits you wish to send.
hero member
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October 29, 2024, 10:08:01 PM
#9
If you want to send any merit less than 10, you can let the zero number there, and type 1, 2, to 9, you will have 01, 02, to 09, and when you click on Send, it works, I test it by sending 1 merit to your post with the format of 01.

Yeah, that works - I’ve tried it myself, but since I’m usually not on my phone when I’m posting, I get where OgNasty’s coming from. For a user like him (and probably some others) who mainly use their phone for reading, replying, and sending merit, it can take up a bit of time. Let’s see if the forum makes a tweak; it’s a simple fix. If it’s needed, they’ll probably go for it.
hero member
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October 29, 2024, 09:28:37 PM
#8
Why does the merit field pre-populate with a zero?
Technically, because there's a value="0" on the element.

Is this needed?
It's not.

Couldn’t it be left blank?
It could.

Is everyone deleting this zero every time they leave merit like I am?
I think some people just leave the zero there (as in, as long as you're entering something after it, then it's a harmless prefix, but, that habit also leads to the mistake of sometimes being on the wrong side of the zero, and then accidentally sending 10 times more merit than you intended).

I agree that this whole issue is an annoyance worth fixing (especially because any one of the alternative fixes that I outlined here would take theymos nearly no time at all to do). Looking at that topic again, I think I like approach C the best (that is, changing value="0" to placeholder="0").

(Reading that topic, all the way through, I feel my blood pressure climbing, because I don't think people realize just how easy it is to convince theymos to sleep on something until it falls off his radar completely. I mean... just... man this is frustrating. It's so, so very simple to change value="0" to placeholder="0", which would fix this issue and be a strict improvement. So, why I decided to entertain/indulge all of the bikeshedding that took place in that topic is actually a little beyond me: all it likely accomplished is to give theymos the false impression that this is a problem worthy of deeper consideration, which it isn't, at least not when there's a perfectly good fix on the table that wouldn't preclude any down-the-road elaboration from taking place.)
sr. member
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October 29, 2024, 09:19:34 PM
#7
having to tap in the merit box and move the cursor to the right side and then delete the zero takes some time. If thousands of people are doing this regularly, it could be quite a waste of man hours. I thought I complained about this before but maybe not so I’m bringing it up (possibly again).

Why does the merit field pre-populate with a zero? Is this needed? Couldn’t it be left blank? Is everyone deleting this zero every time they leave merit like I am?
If you want to send any merit less than 10, you can let the zero number there, and type 1, 2, to 9, you will have 01, 02, to 09, and when you click on Send, it works, I test it by sending 1 merit to your post with the format of 01.

If blank is not an option for some reason, even having it populate with a 1 would be a huge benefit for me.
It will work for you and most people because it saves their time to enter number 1, and most merit transactions are with 1 merit.

It still doesn't work for some people and we will continue having complains like "I would like to experience how Merit works, click on Merit, see 1 in the box and I click on send by mistake and I lose 1 merit". Such complains are unavoidable and I think in one of three options raised by PowerGlove, the blank box is my favorite choice.
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October 29, 2024, 08:10:08 PM
#6
Perhaps powerglove himself also discussed this and made some suggestions in this thread A small merit-sending UI tweak But basically I don't think he had solved it yet. So it's not a new complaint, lots of people suggested different solutions but it hasn't been considered maybe it's not a big deal.

I’m sure it’s been discussed elsewhere as well. A quick scan of that thread doesn’t show my name anywhere but I’m fairly certain I’ve commented on a thread about this in the past. I wonder if it is a more difficult change than one would expect. If blank is not an option for some reason, even having it populate with a 1 would be a huge benefit for me.

I can lock this thread if people think this discussion has already been had and is not needed to be discussed.
sr. member
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October 29, 2024, 06:36:45 PM
#5
When the input box is clicked I think it can either place cursor on either right or left depending on your click position but it might be frustrating when you have to shift the cursor sometimes, thus if cursor is placed at the end using two digit will still be like a single digit but getting used to that might lead to making mistakes... LoyceV is a living testimony  Cheesy.
I will also agree to the blank space...
legendary
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October 29, 2024, 06:14:54 PM
#4
I thought it was blank but I check it now and saw that you are right. I did not see it as an issue but some merit sources that want to send merit to many people or many posts may find it annoying. It is there like it is not there for me, probably because the rate I am sending merit is low.
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October 29, 2024, 06:10:47 PM
#3
Perhaps powerglove himself also discussed this and made some suggestions in this thread A small merit-sending UI tweak But basically I don't think he had solved it yet. So it's not a new complaint, lots of people suggested different solutions but it hasn't been considered maybe it's not a big deal.
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October 29, 2024, 06:10:04 PM
#2
Oh yeah,
I’ve seen that a couple of times while trying to send some merits and I always had to delete the zero to input whatever merit I hope to send. Of course I can always put it in the front and the zero behind makes no meaning even but, it often awakes my human consciousness that, it’s better not having to see it at all, let alone make the mistake of sending out 10merits which I just don’t have, ain’t no merit source.

It would make a lot of sense getting that out eventually, you don’t find many people having that integer in meriting. If need be, am sure most users would find the time to input and send.
donator
Activity: 4760
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October 29, 2024, 06:04:51 PM
#1
This is really not a big deal, but it is one of those things that takes an extra second or two of my time whenever I want to leave someone merit. 98% of the time I spend on this site is on my phone these days, and having to tap in the merit box and move the cursor to the right side and then delete the zero takes some time. If thousands of people are doing this regularly, it could be quite a waste of man hours. I thought I complained about this before but maybe not so I’m bringing it up (possibly again).

Why does the merit field pre-populate with a zero? Is this needed? Couldn’t it be left blank? Is everyone deleting this zero every time they leave merit like I am?
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