Topic: Merit & new rank requirements - page 125. (Read 167726 times)

talking about the constructive post, all my post are good thoughts before I send them. and please if you can help me with the link to that services section

Very informative thanks, I hope to get good information to post to get merit points. Still learning daily about Crypto. Mostly reading on here to learn as fast as I can.

I went from brand new to Junior member in 14 days, and I have enough merits to make it to member level at the same rate as the pre-merit rank updates.

That's excellent. It would be a very dull world if we all liked the same things. That wall observer thread has its own little community happily talking away about which way they think the price of Bitcoin is going. I'm happy if they share merits for posts they like because they're using the forum to discuss things rather than just posting something nobody is ever going to read to meet their signature campaign's required posts (that thread has signatures disabled).

in case you missed it!!!!!!!(not enough exclamation points on my keyboard)

I am sorry...I was drunk last week...so, I took a week off...now I read over the posts and I am that much "sorrier"...jesus christ...all I have seen is people begging for merit and people giving reasons for not giving it...."ummm, your grammar is incorrect"...."if only you would have used THIS word"..."youre just a whiner...stop talking bad about the merit system and you can advance"........I thought the whole point WAS TO KEEP SPAMMERS AND BOTS FROM ADVANCING!!....nope!...just another chance for someone to use their power to get another person to beg and bow.....wow, this is TOTALLY new in the world....not one person addressed my post about what questionauthority said about merit...just keep flexing...you will be big in your own mind as long as you don't think too much about it.........btw, go ahead and delete this one too

edit: I just looked back and saw that someone actually told me that regardless of "learning, HELPING  or sharing my experiences", I would not be advancing without the right attitude about the new merit system.....do you see it yet??

Seriously? Dude. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.34534874  This is quality post that cost couple of merites? That's what i am talking about, we have totally different understanding of what does it mean "quality post".



And what will it change? Then the price for accounts will grow and the number of their thefts will increase. And the newcomers will lose even a meager chance to get a merit from somewhere except sources. 

My opinion is that the newcomer and the already hard to master large volumes of information, and here to write posts to earn merit . You look at the professionals they write based on their experience. What can a newbie write? What incentive does he have to work?
The majority of beginners go to bounty and are not the same company. It is not always possible, it takes a lot of time to check and submit reports. On the study of new information. A lot of time out, month after month passes. And income does not grow and the incentive to work is lost.
 
So it turns out, those who sat in the first car, they go further, and those who did not have time, goodbye, you were not the lot.
 Write posts if I find time and money for free, and if you know the topic you want to write. Don't know, maybe I have a little experience in all this, but it's frustrating to sit for days and no growth for some months, it is in no income, and the saddest thing may not be.
In my opinion, if people try to work, conduct bounties, managers have to reward merits because it is unfair in relation to newcomers. Work must be rewarded and in my opinion, not only posts make forum forum number one, but and work specialists in bounty companies. Need to think a little respect and reward the work of the participants of this process.

In service section, there is much thread that offering their smerit if you are deserving to have it.
Or even here, or anywhere in the forum if you post or make a genuine thread.

I almost forgot the merit system when I did not get a smerit for this month, instead, I enjoyed my self just to sharing an idea with others.
As what athanz88 said above that what if I am earlier here in the forum before merit system was implemented, but now I accept and face this new rule as a challenge and motivated me to have a good and constructive post.

one important question, how do i get my sendable merit to increase my rank on Bitcoin forum?

I certainly think so.  That's why the whole merit system was created.  It is to encourage better quality posts.

However, when you look over those linked above and where they received the majority of their merit, you see it is mostly from threads on merit.  If you look, you can see that there are a TON of threads on merit.  I have posted here and there on this thread, but gave up as there seems to be a never-ending supply of people that want to complain about it.  I can't recall, but I think I may have even have been one of them (sad to say). 
Then, I realized that it is really for the best and the ranks don't mean much unless you are concerned with signature campaigns.  I'm not overly concerned with merit myself these days and tend to frequent threads where a lot of the posts are overlooked.  The one reason that merit would matter to me is if somebody overlooked my post simply because of my rank.

Anyways, carry on with the complaints from the opponents and the justifications of the proponents on this thread. 

It's a Bitcoin forum so it is natural that people with knowledge will write more informative posts and get more merit. Isn't that how it should be?

Those accounts are literary high knowledge in crypto currencies, aside on that maybe they growth in digitalization why they have high understanding  regarding bitcoin and other crypto currencies. Sometimes when I see nullius accounts i was thinking that it is real that he is a newly participants or it was a sub account of one higher rank in bitcointalk. Maybe they born with high intelligence gift that's why they can easily go with the flow in this sites

Thanks. Yeah, I know nullius is a bit special but the last guy must have started with no more than 100.

There's a full list compiled by LoyceV weekly (last one 2 days ago).


Have a look at that list as you'll be surprised how many people are getting Merit faster than 1 day. That's roughly what they need to rank up at the same pace as before.

I think the balance is right and most importantly fits with what was written in the OP of this thread.


It's doing what it was meant to.

And you have one more merit from me for getting into all this trouble to find people who had success with this system! lol
The second guy though is registered from a year ago and the last one is registered since 2013, so ofcourse they had free merits and that's why they stand high on points. Nevertheless, you beat my argument that there's probably not even one member who's close to the speed at which members used to obtain ranks before.

For the record, I still believe it's an unfair system and it could become better if the thresholds were lowered, but that's my opinion so call me spoiled and ignore me (Not addressing a specific member)!

Unfairness is just a simple thinking on how to escape reality that you are a loser who can not take any blame on you like, why :
1. didnt i join forum earlier?
2. didnt i buy bitcoin earlier?
3. didnt i make a move before to make me rich?
It creates a lot of "if only", and instead of taking up those blame to yourself, you blame people who did it earlier than you and when things changed, you called it unfair.

And no, your suggestion is just the same as activity point like the past system.

The system started on the 24th January so it is less than 3 months old.

This guy has 109 https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bitmover-1554927
This guy has 717 https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/nullius-976210

I started with 250 and now have 532

There's many more if you look around.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topusersat

Edit:
I just stumbled on a Full Member with 290. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/rejectedbanana-182284
By finding his thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.34467837

I don't have any siblings to be honest but this whole conversation has gone off trails with examples of how unfair the whole world is!

Just because "A" is unfair, it doesn't mean we should stop thinking of ways to make "B" more fair. We're in a forum that's all about a new technology and moving the world forward after all!
But okay I get it, a lot of you seem to agree that it's the better of two evils, it's a bit unfair but it's better than not having it at all. I believe that having this system with a different implementation that wouldn't create such huge gaps would be better.

For example, a 1 year old member can have 500 more merits than a member registered today. For this system to be called 100% fair in my simple mind, the new member should be able to get 500 merits in one year if he's as much active as the other members with 500 merits were in average and with quality posting. Am I mistaken about the amount of merits 1 year old active members have? I'm not sure but I believe I'm right. The merit system is almost 4 months old, have you seen anyone with 166 merits? I doubt there's even A SINGLE ONE.

So no, I'm not bitter because it's a bit unfair, I'm bitter because it's very unfair, I'm in the wrong side and it'd be easy to be done better but they're not updating the system.

The level of bitcoin unfairness for me is too high too.  

Along that theme, if your Aunt had balls she'd be your uncle!