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legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 10802
There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain
April 23, 2018, 11:30:51 AM
While this is a good statistics, but you miss one key point here, did the quality of posts increasing? Dont just see from the merit's perspective man.

This is hard to say, only the numbers are certain. The quality of the posts are relative to the person who reads them. For example (even if it is not true) looking at the numbers that are continuously decreasing I would like to say: no it is decreasing since we have less and less sMerit.
This is a 3d related to the merits and since I love the statistics I like to share my hobby and even if You do not believe it for someone it's interesting!

The point is the following: let's see when the airdropped sMerit will end so we can see if the generated sMerit from sources is enough or not for the system.

As you suggest, quantitative analysis on numerical data in feasible without too much difficulty and gives us good insights. Were things start to get rather out of reach is the measurement of the quality side to posts. As I’ve said a few times around, I favour generating Interest as the overall objective of posting over Quality. Being both subjective and often interlocked, I find quality is more of a stepping-stone towards creating a post that falls under the radar of readers, thus generating interest.

Regardless, without being so picky making the above distinction between correlated terms, to measure quality, and surpass the subjective individual opinion we all have on it, we could:

1)   Perform a survey on Forum users, so as to tabulate results. This though is bound to be rather biased now days though, since quality is one of the most correlated terms we can see in posts that talk about Merit (and we know how hot and contraversary that topics is).

2)   Perform semantical and structural analysis on the posts, through some sort of A.I. project (there’s an idea, though probably not original and rather complex). That would favour having an overall measure of what quality means. Imagine if the A.I. system were to be capable of revising our posts, making an automatic score based on quality. The A.I could then become a merit source if not The Merit source... wouldn't that be a treat!

From the day-to-day point of view, there’s also the Quantity factor that interferes with finding quality posts around. I went round today and awarded a few merits, but I was specifically looking for posts belonging to users lower than my rank. Unfortunately, a couple of posts that seemed to be interesting to some extent were verbatim copy/paste from the referenced news article, without any personal addition or opinion to it. To get to these, I went into all sorts of sections, scanning posts only pertaining to relatively small threads, since I generally prefer going from the top and at least skimming through all the posts within the thread.

So the quantity factor on the forum plays against the quality factor, being good posts outnumbered by bad posts and therefore, pushed back from visibility.
hero member
Activity: 1659
Merit: 687
LoyceV on the road. Or couch.
April 23, 2018, 11:30:05 AM
What if  a group of bounty hunters create a group somewhere else e.a. on facebook and they will use/exchange  their extra merit with each other? would that be possible also? if yes then their existing merit could have easily doubled? am i right? 
They won't have that much smerit to begin with.
legendary
Activity: 2534
Merit: 1517
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April 23, 2018, 07:58:51 AM
While this is a good statistics, but you miss one key point here, did the quality of posts increasing? Dont just see from the merit's perspective man.

This is hard to say, only the numbers are certain. The quality of the posts are relative to the person who reads them. For example (even if it is not true) looking at the numbers that are continuously decreasing I would like to say: no it is decreasing since we have less and less sMerit.
This is a 3d related to the merits and since I love the statistics I like to share my hobby and even if You do not believe it for someone it's interesting!

The point is the following: let's see when the airdropped sMerit will end so we can see if the generated sMerit from sources is enough or not for the system.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
April 23, 2018, 07:51:27 AM
What if  a group of bounty hunters create a group somewhere else e.a. on facebook and they will use/exchange  their extra merit with each other? would that be possible also? if yes then their existing merit could have easily doubled? am i right? 
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
April 23, 2018, 07:37:27 AM
Jet Merits and Talk Cash have still got sMerits to award, but where are all the good posts?
Whenever I go to Beginners & Help, I usually end up getting someone banned. I'm not even looking for someone to get banned, and yet, they're much easier to find than a Newbie with good posts.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 359
April 23, 2018, 07:31:09 AM
Weekly update is here guys. sMerit still decreasing Sad almost 50% less in 6 weeks  Cry




While this is a good statistics, but you miss one key point here, did the quality of posts increasing? Dont just see from the merit's perspective man.
full member
Activity: 434
Merit: 103
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April 23, 2018, 07:25:38 AM
Jet Merits and Talk Cash have still got sMerits to award, but where are all the good posts?
Maybe I've got too many people on ignore or something.

Well there is one for coin locker, but shouldn't the merits be going to chat about Bitcoin?


If you have smerits to dish out, then don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.  There are plenty of good posts out there that can be merited.. and by the way, sometimes, I give out merits to persons who post a bunch of mediocre posts, but in that case, I feel that I am giving merits to the person and for their overall contributions to the forum and not to any one post that the person made.

this is very generous of you. i'd do that, too. i gave out all the smerits i had, and i thought they will be refundable. but it seems that they are not.  but unfortunately the majority of people here is different (but it's only my opinion, i might be wrong), apparently they think that a person should invent another blockchain to become good enough for a couple of smerit points))). i feel that i stuck with my rank. cause i don't think i can get 150 merits in years))
legendary
Activity: 3892
Merit: 11105
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
April 22, 2018, 10:20:02 PM
Weekly update is here guys. sMerit still decreasing Sad almost 50% less in 6 weeks  Cry



Unsent Smerits decay after some time so you'd think people with Smerits would give them away. I think posts quality have improved so I wonder why the rate at which  Smerits are awarded is rather decreasing. Does it mean posts are becoming rather inferior?


Show the source of your information about smerits decaying.  It is not true.  It says right on the merits' page of each user that smerits might decay in the future, which clearly suggests that smerits do not currently decay.
legendary
Activity: 3892
Merit: 11105
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
April 22, 2018, 10:16:24 PM
Jet Merits and Talk Cash have still got sMerits to award, but where are all the good posts?
Maybe I've got too many people on ignore or something.

Well there is one for coin locker, but shouldn't the merits be going to chat about Bitcoin?


If you have smerits to dish out, then don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.  There are plenty of good posts out there that can be merited.. and by the way, sometimes, I give out merits to persons who post a bunch of mediocre posts, but in that case, I feel that I am giving merits to the person and for their overall contributions to the forum and not to any one post that the person made.
newbie
Activity: 52
Merit: 0
April 22, 2018, 08:49:39 PM
In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks. The required scores are:

RankRequired activityRequired merit
Brand new00
Newbie10
Jr Member300
Member6010
Full Member120100
Sr. Member240250
Hero Member480500
LegendaryRandom in the range 775-10301000

You get merit points when someone sends you some for one of your posts. Additionally, when someone sends you merit points, half of those points can be sent by you to other people.

Certain users are designated as "merit sources". They can create new merit out of nothing, up to a limited number per month (which differs per source). I will not be posting a definitive list of merit sources (so that people don't bug them too much), though you'll soon figure out who they are if you pay attention.

There is currently no such thing as a "demerit". I'm hoping that the positive merits alone will be fine. I could add demerits pretty easily later on if necessary, though.

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

Do not beg for merit excessively.

Useful infographics

Forum users have helpfully created some infographics to explain the merit system:
paxmao's infographic
ibminer's infographic
8Habits's infographic
JetSet11's infographic
zentdex's infographic
alia_armelle's infographic

If you want to be a merit source:

 1. Be a somewhat established member.
 2. Collect TEN posts written in the last couple of months by other people that have not received nearly enough merit for how good they are, and post quotes for them all in a new Meta thread. The point of this is to demonstrate your ability to give out merit usefully.
 3. We will take a look at your history and maybe make you a source.

I am especially eager to have merit sources in sub-communities such as the local sections.

Trivia:

For current members, your initial merit score is equal to the minimum required to your rank. Of that, a certain amount (less than the usual half) is spendable. The spendable amount was calculated based on your current rank and the number of activity points you earned in the last year. A Legendary member who hasn't posted in the last year would still be Legendary, but would not have any spendable merit.

If someone sends you 1 merit, the 0.5 sMerit is not wasted; it is just not shown until you get another merit point.

There are stats here, and you can find someone's merit summary by clicking the "merit" link on their profile.
I think this merit system is a great idea to help the users read informations. And share their knowledge to other in need some answer's. I would like to be a source so i will do my best to get some merit and make a source.
member
Activity: 322
Merit: 12
April 22, 2018, 08:44:08 PM
Weekly update is here guys. sMerit still decreasing Sad almost 50% less in 6 weeks  Cry



Unsent Smerits decay after some time so you'd think people with Smerits would give them away. I think posts quality have improved so I wonder why the rate at which  Smerits are awarded is rather decreasing. Does it mean posts are becoming rather inferior?
member
Activity: 294
Merit: 11
April 22, 2018, 07:28:27 PM
Just now I come to find out and inform me of all this merits Roll Eyes, I did not understand why it did not rise in level, as it will play some quality post Cheesy
full member
Activity: 420
Merit: 184
April 22, 2018, 02:40:30 PM
Jet Merits and Talk Cash have still got sMerits to award, but where are all the good posts?
Maybe I've got too many people on ignore or something.

Well there is one for coin locker, but shouldn't the merits be going to chat about Bitcoin?

Jet Talk and Cash Merits ought to swing by the altcoins\mining subforum as there is very little shitposting, and even a few threads in the altcoins\announcement subforum have some rollicking good discussions happening. See, for example, these gems (no posts are mine, btw, though one is a response to one of my posts):

ETHlargement - the hashrate hardener
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-1080-1080ti-ethlargement-the-hashrate-hardener-3370685

Building cheap miners : my secret
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/building-cheap-miners-my-secret-1955358

XMR-stak 2.4.2 Compiled with no devfee [note - the devs of xmr-stak provide instructions to do this, so not cheating/theft)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmr-stak-jk-2107-compiled-with-no-devfee-updated-2019-8-18-3264773

Post #2668 in DERO [ANN] thread - one of two posts by same user which persuaded me to change my position on hard-forking.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.35314263

The user statt tirelessly supports TrezarCoin on a purely voluntary/unofficial basis, but the last line in the submitted post is priceless
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28510084

Excellent information by user storx on automatic trading with gunbot
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.34802638

Etc. and so on.
legendary
Activity: 2814
Merit: 2472
https://JetCash.com
April 22, 2018, 01:48:40 PM
Jet Merits and Talk Cash have still got sMerits to award, but where are all the good posts?
Maybe I've got too many people on ignore or something.

Well there is one for coin locker, but shouldn't the merits be going to chat about Bitcoin?
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1065
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April 22, 2018, 01:32:41 PM
Weekly update is here guys. sMerit still decreasing Sad almost 50% less in 6 weeks  Cry



I think it is expected that we will experience a shortage of liquidity in the transition from communism to capitalism especially that unknown smerits got out of circulation in dormant accounts. Wait until the number of sources increases further.
legendary
Activity: 2534
Merit: 1517
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April 22, 2018, 12:27:10 PM
Weekly update is here guys. sMerit still decreasing Sad almost 50% less in 6 weeks  Cry


sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 359
April 22, 2018, 07:56:44 AM
It is good for us that bitcoin is accepted many countries shops, ? what sort of shops bitcoin is accepted

Next level of "off topic" reply. It is like you are entering biology class while you must attend math class. LOL. Please read the OP boys.

This is helpful. I’ll need to put in more work to achieve greatness. Thank you

Yes, thank you too.

Hello to all you guys! Someone could send me some merit points please?  Cheesy Thanks for that and god bless you

What happened? Did your alt rorschach1 run out of sMerit?

https://i.snag.gy/O971EM.jpg



Nice catch for this one. I will do the same like jet cash do. Ignore list, click, done.
newbie
Activity: 196
Merit: 0
April 22, 2018, 07:02:02 AM
This is helpful. I’ll need to put in more work to achieve greatness. Thank you
sr. member
Activity: 375
Merit: 1021
Just in case no one loves you, I love you 3000.
April 22, 2018, 06:41:05 AM
Does anyone know how do i get sMerits? i had them and i gave them to some forumers. i've heard they are refundable, and in a month you'll get the same number of sMerit. but i don't. so was i wrong? and were given only once??

You're wrong. Only merit sources can generate or make merit/s up to a limited number per month.
Answer to your question.
If someone sends you 1 merit, the 0.5 sMerit is not wasted; it is just not shown until you get another merit point.
Meaning every time you get merit you will also have sMerit.  It is not a monthly basis system like salary. Cheesy
full member
Activity: 434
Merit: 103
Eloncity - power the world for free! /eloncity.io/
April 22, 2018, 06:34:20 AM
Does anyone know how do i get sMerits? i had them and i gave them to some forumers. i've heard they are refundable, and in a month you'll get the same number of sMerit. but i don't. so was i wrong? and were given only once??
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