Topic: Merit & new rank requirements - page 152. (Read 167726 times)

Thats a awesome idea. I could care less about the sig campaign. I wouldn't make it in one to begin with

Is there an info graphic so I can understand the dynamic when members discover a merit source and engage in merit stalking?
I'm not talking about merit begging here, that I understand.

I think this is a fantastic idea.  Let me take it just a bit further!  There are so many people complaining about the new merit system that there should be a way that a user can opt (pay a small fee perhaps) in to using the old activity ranking system.  This way everyone will be happy!!  If you like the merit system opt in to it, if you prefer the old ranking system opt in to it, win-win!!!

Oh I almost forgot to mention, opting in to the old ranking system comes with one little sacrifice.  Anyone opting in to the old ranking system would have there signature privileges removed permanently, NO SIG FOR YOU.

Now lets see all these whining shitposters and farmers opt in to the old system they loved sooooooo much...

How much is a reasonable price for you to pay to have something like copper membership allowing you to rank up without having merits? if the forum could sell enough of this new membership, we could have a monthly prize for top merited members by using the money.
There would be no extra merits, just your account with no merit requirement for ranking up.


You are lying. you don't get it.


Because old members have much more to lose.


They should learn from that one user. not to post garbage and feel cheerful about earning money.


More democratic than this? all the merit related data is on the table, if you could find significant abuse of the system, report them and receive merits. if you don't have any useful inputs, help however you can. like I do. I consider the current situation a crisis, I am not honoring the deal with the signature campaign I'm currently enrolled. I have posted mostly in meta and in beginners & help where I'm not getting paid to post. if the manager was a bastard like her enemies, I shouldn't have get paid at all. I have earned enough in this forum than I could've earned in real life. I owe them my life.
There is no thread worth reading and posting, they all are airdrop and garbage token related. off chain payment projects should be the topic of discussions, they are not. I would beg anybody to direct me to a few useful topics on them and receive some merits for doing so.

Those selected few members are not the custodians of the merit system. They got more default merits than lower rank members but those merits will get spend in few months. Thing of the merit system in long term. Once all the default merit points are spent, the merits will come from merit sources. These merit sources are picked by the admin and they will not be biased. If any merit source tries to give preference to senior members while giving merits that will be spotted by the admin as all merit data is publicly available. Some of the times senior members are in better position to answer queries and thus get merited.

I am fairly new to Bitcoin Talk. I learned that the merit system used to be more "liberal" before, but was changed recently. Before, users would earn merit based on the number of posts they made. Later, the stipulation that they earn merit from other users was added. While I see the logic in doing this (to ensure higher quality posts), this gives an unfair advantage to people who were here before. These people earned merit almost automatically by contributing to this community, now, doing the same would not earn users merit automatically.

An alternative would be a system such as used by Reddit or Stackoverflow, any user can easily vote a story or post up or down, granting merit (or reputation) on those other platforms. By making a few select people the "custodians" of merit, this creates a biased, undemocratic, unlevel playing field that unfairly rewards older members and punishes new ones. If a user makes a post that benefits 1000 members of this community, but those 1000 members are mostly new members so are not able to give merit, their efforts go unrewarded. However, if an older member makes a post that is seen by 10 of his other older member friends, that member gets more merit for that. This is an unfair and biased system. I get the reasoning and idea behind it, but practically, it's not the best way to allocate merit (IMHO)... Especially on a platform that is known as one of the most important sites for decentralized technologies like Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency in general.

I don't know that so not sure how you can claim that we both do.

I think that someone who treats rank as an indication of trustworthiness is begging to get scammed. Ranks in the "old" system meant just that the user was active for a certain length of time, and in the "new" system it may eventually mean that the user was active and wasn't an utter shitposter. None of this has anything to do with trustworthiness in a trade. I guess you're implying that your customers are stupid and don't know that. Fair enough. Still it seems that your effort would be better spent towards building trust than building rank.

Maybe. Thats hard to say without reliable testing and results. But we both know that straight up, +0/0 Legendary vs +0/0 Member, the Legendary is going to get more sales.

Member with green trust would probably get more sales than Legendary with red.

Thats really simple and a dump question both. Who will get more sales? Legendary vs Member

If you only use the forum to sell stuff - why do you care about merit and rank?

I dont want to talk about the old system, it can not be talked anyomer since the systam has changed, and it will be irrelevant if we talk about past system with now system. But i want to ask you questions, one about past system,
1. do you think it is fair for people who did a good post and contribute a lot and focusing to 1 account (many users are like this and even if they have alt, they announced their alt) to rank up the at the same rate with the spammer?
2. Do you really think it is fair for people who does a good post and contributing a lot to rank up at the same rate as a litlle time spender like you?

The rank is there but it doesnt mean you can and should achieve it like it is your right. It is just like an education. It is your right as a human and must be given by your country, but it doesnt mean you can get into a high school or college or even class promotion in a school if you dont have the requirement for it, it is a privilege you should achieve.
Imagine if i dont have a good score and requirement to enter harvard and then i talk loudly that it is an unfair things, does it sound genius?

You should check on pinned thread on meta, as far as i know rank doesnt decide on how much you can post or how much time needed before you can post again, it is only decided by activity number.

You do not receive merit just because you happen to (hypothetically) be a good person (or a hard worker) outside of  the forum.  You get merit for your forum contributions and the perception of others regarding your posts, and you get negative perceptions, as you already experienced, when you attempt some nonsensical contrary principles to the merit system, and selling of merits is contrary to the whole concept of merit... and if you were a bit more insightful, you might have explored such topic in a more exploratory way, rather than attempting to impose and advocate for something that you either purposefully or conceptually don't seem to want to attempt to understand (except through attempting to apply your faulty analogies, which have already been pointed out to you through negative trust - thanks to nullius willing to spend some time in assessing the substance of your previous posts).

Most of the people who are not here for signature campaigns need not bother about merits at all. The members who are not able to get merits and are thus not able to participate in bounties are the ones who are calling merit system a failure. Since, you primary purpose is to sell accounts here, why do you want a higher rank. You have already got sufficient relaxation in PMs and posting frequency as per your current rank. If you are providing good services or products and clients are happy, they will give positive trust to you and it will make your profile look more credible even without merits.

I personally don't have the time to live on Bitcointalk.org. I work 50+ hours a week and login to bitcointalk.org about twice a day to sale misc goods. Now is this fair to me, or others like me, that we can't rank up because of this? Again, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. And I'm fairly sure you know mine. Point is, if Theymos can sell whitelist to be able to post more on Bitcointalk, then selling Merit Rank-ups should be no different.

I`m looking at this post it`s really amazing but i`m confused regarding the merit given for comments . It`s unfair what someone is writng a interesting post and is not receiving at least 1 merit and someone is writing a comment and receives 100 merit . This system is not working properly at all . Who is in charge regarding merit I just what to share one of my post where i think i deserve at least 1 merit point .

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32045858

Very nice post i will repeat one more time but the system is not working properly

Every people who only cares about rank probably joined the forum just to make money, because all they care the most is ranking up, that is the main and basic reason why they didnt get the merit normally, because they feel this system is too heavy thus render them too lazy to study and increase their quality.

Guess what? If you are newbie, you only need to score 1 merit daily to rank up normally. It is hard but not an impossible task in my opinion.



Then why dont you follow his step and give more time to get those merits?

All you do is whining, only gives a little of your time and you want to get a lot of merits? Dont be a hypocrite. If you do the hard work you will get the results. It applies in every world, real world or internet world.

I do not speak English well, but reading this thread I understand that the theymos did it right and whoever does not say it is the owner of the resource and dictates the rules if someone does not like the rules of the site, nobody keeps it there. those who remain on the site accept new rules and try to match them, but maybe newcomers (or those who are forced to develop their own account on a new basis) will not be able to rank higher, and what prevents you from striving for this, make quality records.
I honestly do not care about the merit system, I do not participate in ICO, I read the branches about the software for mining, because I myself have a bullet on the pool, and I keep my hand on the pulse. you can always learn something new, and then after some time later tell the newcomer about it.
when I came here as a novice, I knew nothing but nicehash, and now I work in the powershell and ruler as I need, I myself do executable files, and let me not be young already, but while I'm interested in this topic, I will study reading and mastering new items. Thanks to everyone who gives the right information

sMerits are not replenished unless you are a merit source.

If you will be wondering how will you get another sMerit to give then you must make posts that is worthy of merit, for every 2 merits you receive you will be getting 1 smerit. For members that is the only way you can get merit but if you want more, you can always apply for becoming a merit source.

I can not find the answer to the most probably common question. Are smerits regenerated? I was very generous and distributed more than half of the merits, but how can I resume the number of smerits? for what merit are they renewed?