Topic: Merit & new rank requirements - page 175. (Read 167726 times)

It is hard to understand how can someone read the first post and don't understand after that how to get merit.
A simple answer : make useful and good quality posts.
More info https://m.imgur.com/a/jWrTB, you could get more informations from the infographics in the OP.

It is likely that English is not your mother tongue, right? To get merits, you should sharpen your English skills, reading and writing are most important skills. If you cannot read and understand what others wrote, you cannot do anything. Your posts will probably off-topic due to misunderstanding. Writing threads in broken English make them really difficult to understand, which in turn will reduce your opportunities to earn merits from other users.

It's hard to understand where to get merits. I'm not after with the merits though. Maybe doing efforts to help people make money here in bitcointalk could consider be a merit

Probably the best control is to apply some red trust in cases that are clear abuses. For cases that are not that clear... well then they won´t harm the system much, would they?

hi, i think adding a "like" feature to forum and  an automatic system of 10 likes = 1 merit would be more fair and easily appliable incorporating all the people on the forum.

this current system serves the higher ranked members and their fake accounts.

besides, if mods think a post is garbage, they can ban  the member for 3 5 days.

in the current system most people dont vote  the posts but threads which causes members to create already existing topics such as how to open a mew account, how to earn airdrop topics etc over and over again.

also some icos require  a lot of posts weekly and this could be hindered n their side limiting this number to 10.

Hello Theymos. I think one of the reason people make garbage messeages is "Bounty Mods wants too many post from bounty hunters for signature campaigns". Some mods want 30 constructive/meaningful messeage for a week to pay for bounty. Thats why people trying to complete their post count with garbage and meaningless posts to get paid. You can put a post limit for mods which they wants for signature campaigns.

Me too.

I don't get this stupid-ass racist allegation regarding having an expectation that understandable English is typed.

Sure, there are levels of English, and I doubt that anyone expects the English to be perfect or proper grammar in all instances.. and sometimes bad grammar and typos are purposefully used for effect.. but in the end, there is nothing racist about having an expectation that people deserve more merit (or credit) when they communicated more skillfully to get their ideas across, and the language of the forum is English, unless posting in the local sections.

In the end, the accusation would not be racist, but there could be a valid accusation of "elitism" or "prudism" if someone is expecting English skills that are perfect or near perfect when we are posting on the interwebs....... however, I don't think that anyone is expecting that kind of high level.  Surely you are judged more favorably if you can communicate your ideas clearly and concisely.

You’re racist against altcoins.


You’re racist against words you do not understand.


You’re racist against idiots.


You’re racist against people who wish that the forum be run for their own personal benefit, everyone else be damned.

merit is become ranking requirement is not easy but this fair to bicoin to have a good and quality post not just posting without impact.  So we need to make up or updating every descation in bitcoin that produce us a merit, in that case we become serious in posting and not become wasting time and electricity.

The forum is called Bitcointalk.


How are people supposed to rate a post they do not understand?


That is usually true.

There seems to be a general thing in the forum, among the most generous merit givers that
if you talk about altcoins instead of bitcoin, you will not get merit.
If you use any other language than English (stated as: a language I don't speak!) in some of your posts, you won't get merit. That is just racist.
If you comment on bounty posts you will not get merit AND you are an idiot.
I think the admins should take a look at this and do something about it.

Appreciated and thanks for the links. They are really useful.

I like the phrase, “I take full responsibility”, as well as your expressed desires to learn and to improve your posts.  Thus, I will take all these at face value; and I will assume that you speak in good faith.

Whereas if your priority here be truly to “increase [your] knowledge regarding the technology, concepts and culture related to [the] blockchain and cryptocurrency”, then my negative feedback should not be a problem for you.  Go ahead!  Learn!  A red tag won’t stop you from learning; and the knowledge will be beneficial to you.

I will keep an eye on your account.  It will not take much of my time to occasionally glance in on your post history and especially, your merit page.  If I see consistent evidence that you’ve been sincere in what you told me here, then eventually, I will consider changing my feedback to neutral or removing it.

Since my feedback specifically pertained to a wrong way to seek merit, one of the most important criteria will be whether you earn merit the honest way.  That is:  Whether you earn merit for posts which a reasonable person may award merit to.  I do not mean posts which I would award merit to.  Some reasonable people might award merit to posts which I would not.  I can recognize that.  No reasonable person would award merit to spam, junk one-liners, gibberish, factually incorrect information, or otherwise objectively low-quality posts.  Also, no reasonable person would award merit as a wiseacre, as charity, or for other nefarious non-reasons.

If you don’t earn merit the honest way, then my trust feedback is almost irrelevant anyway:  You’d be permanently stuck in the low ranks.⁰  My objective here is that, if you show yourself capable of advancing, I do not wish to hold you back or impair your future forum success.

I will not set a specific timeframe.  That could be misinterpreted as a date on which I will remove the tag; and really, the only timeframe is that I do not commit to checking on your account indefinitely.  Also, there is no need to contact me about this—actually, don’t contact me about this.  You’ve said some good words here.  Now, I’m more interested in your behaviour going forward.

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My advice on where to start fulfilling your expressed desire to learn:

The Beginners & Help forum is a good place to ask beginner-level learning questions.  (Yes, I checked your post history; I did not find any posts from you there.)  Read this before posting.  Also, I strongly suggest learning to ask smart questions.

(Note that as I stated in my negative feedback, intelligent questions often do earn merit.  A beginner-level question can be intelligent.  Stupid questions are not meritorious.  Neither are lazy questions, which show you couldn’t be bothered to do some basic reading and thinking, and redundant questions, which show you didn’t look around enough to see that a hundred other people had already asked the same thing.)

And don’t just talk:  Listen!  Read!  I myself spent untold hours lurking and reading forum archives before I even created an account.¹  Other people have probably asked about many of the same things which may pique your curiosity.

Another excellent starting resource is Bitcoin.ORG.  People in Beginners & Help can suggest more reading material, if you ask intelligently.

The foregoing should conclude my involvement in this discussion.  Good luck, if you deserve it.

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0. I expect that as the merit system develops, an ill image will befall accounts with low rank, activity so disproportionate as to be absurd, and little or no merit.  Actually, I think this process may be in the early stages already.

1. If I had instead simply created an account and started posting daily one-liners in spam megathreads, I would now (and for some time passed) be a Legendary.  This is why we need the merit system.

Both merit and trust systems can be abused as time goes on, abusements have been demonstrated by proofs. Nevertheless, I totally agree with JayJuanGee, those two systems should operated separately because they have very different original objectives in the forum. No need to combine them into one system.

Lol, I see the same two idiots still trolling. I can't see what they say but they are pathetic.

Wow, I cannot believe it when looking at your profile. You have got tons of merit points. Really amazing. However, after spending couple of minutes to check your post history, I have seen that you posted almost high-quality, constructive and helpful threads. That explains why you got those merits. Congratulations.

@nullius Yes, I crossed that line and you can see I mentioned in my response "I just corrected my comment". I did mentioned that I want to earn merit, not beg it; I think I could have clarified it by adding "with their armature posts and intention to adding value to the forum". I couldn't express myself properly in the last line; and I thought, I should remove it. But since it was referenced in some posts below, I crossed that line so that no further miscommunication happens and I take full responsibility of that particular line accepting that the wording was wrong. And, I didn't know about the archiving feature of the forum. Just the negative trust feedback disheartened me since my intention was not begging merit rather to earn it by learning and adding value to the forum (as you can see the same intention in my original comment as well). Unfortunately, the red trust in my profile seems like someone jailed me without giving me any chance to explain myself. Since I joined here, I learned a lot regarding cryptocurrency and blockchain that might needed months if I had to acquire them from elsewhere.

Regarding your question, as you can see, I could apply for the airdrop for Equitybase afterwards and I didn't get any denial/got any message regarding red trust so far.

sMerit reduction for red trust seems like a ridiculous proposed solution from my point of view - since the merit system and the trust system are separate, and bringing in some kind of reduction of sMerit formula for red trust would likely cause more problems than it solves in terms of adding complexity and possible unintended bad player gaming consequences.

Sometimes it was happen due too poor connection, all I know I give merits to those who have a quality poster but after review I give it to users who can't deserve it. However thanks for your information, now I need to make sure that I can't send a merit to the users who not deserve it.

Yeah, perfect solution but who is going to ban them? I see so many now selling and buying accounts,just people with red trust everywhere.

The sMerit reduction for red trust is general approach and less time consuming. Many will be disappointed and will give up.