Merit & new rank requirements - page 260.

suchmoon

legendary

Activity: 3654

Merit: 8909

https://bpip.org

Quote from: mithrim on January 26, 2018, 04:59:42 PM

Quote from: mithrim on January 26, 2018, 03:28:18 PM

Another question: Why is the initial merit score equal to the minimum required to your rank? Why not proportionally to the actual activity?

Has someone an answer for this, please? Is there a good reason for this? OP only says that you get the minimum. Why? If a new commodity is created, why isn't it exchanged in a fair way?

Everybody got the minimum so that they could keep the same rank when the new rank formula is applied. To get the next rank they need to follow the new rules. A rule change is often unfair to someone.

GiorgosK

sr. member

Activity: 478

Merit: 253

Merit is indeed a positive thing in this forum and very welcome to see it and will definetelly help with the quality.

I think though that it would be fairer to start everyone's merit not with the required merit for their RANK (as it did)
but by interpolating their post count between their required merit and the next RANK's required merit
because right now someone just a few posts away from next rank is treated as if they have just entered their RANK

mithrim

sr. member

Activity: 434

Merit: 436

Quote from: mithrim on January 26, 2018, 03:28:18 PM

Another question: Why is the initial merit score equal to the minimum required to your rank? Why not proportionally to the actual activity?

Has someone an answer for this, please? Is there a good reason for this? OP only says that you get the minimum. Why? If a new commodity is created, why isn't it exchanged in a fair way?

suchmoon

legendary

Activity: 3654

Merit: 8909

https://bpip.org

Quote from: ?? on ??

you wrong (( i newer exchanged trust and they not alts they people that made deal with me
please stop trolling me Angry

you also have positive feeds in your trust, they are alts?

I said "suspected alts" and yes, you did, anybody can see that. Bullshit trust ratings with no references, "for being a good forum member". If you try to delete those I'll grant you a brand new red one. Now please move into your own thread.

https://i.snag.gy/fvg9wA.jpg

Maum

full member

Activity: 250

Merit: 106

Quote from: Lutpin on January 26, 2018, 04:45:15 PM

Quote from: Maum on January 26, 2018, 04:43:07 PM

I couldn't find the info, how many smerits we have. As full member I only had 5 sMerits to spend.
Is that for every full member that amount?

You couldnt even read the first post, could you?

I read the first post and only can see, that I get half sMerits amount of the Merits someone sent me. But I can't see the initial sMerits. Read over and over but didn't find the info, how many sMerits we have at beginning.
" The spendable amount was calculated based on your current rank and the number of activity points you earned in the last year"
But no formula. So we have at least one unknown indicator.
Example: N=Number of posts; A=Activity sM=sMeridits
N=100; A=100 sM=?

Lutpin

copper member

Activity: 1904

Merit: 1874

Goodbye, Z.

Quote from: Maum on January 26, 2018, 04:43:07 PM

I couldn't find the info, how many smerits we have. As full member I only had 5 sMerits to spend.
Is that for every full member that amount?

You couldnt even read the first post, could you?

Maum

full member

Activity: 250

Merit: 106

I couldn't find the info, how many smerits we have.
As full member I only had 5 sMerits to spend.
Is that for every full member that amount?

Deena

member

Activity: 238

Merit: 49

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on January 26, 2018, 04:29:04 PM

Quote from: TMAN on January 26, 2018, 03:10:18 PM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on January 26, 2018, 03:08:47 PM

Quote from: TMAN on January 26, 2018, 02:44:34 PM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on January 26, 2018, 02:42:56 PM

Here is a handy reference for those confused by the Merit system.

1 Merit = Like (AKA Agree)
2 Merit = Upvote
3 Merit = loves to touch goats testicles
4 Merit = Upvote twice (you know you've always wanted this feature)
20 Merit = Bitcointalk Gold

_{/Merit whoring}

I gave you 3 mate just to mess with your head a little..

great idea though, but it not quite as clear cut as loads of people didn't get as many as us!

It just occurred to me that we can go back and Edit our posts to anything we want without changing their Merit score. Cheesy

EG, I could add a "3 Merit" tier to my list and make it say something really rude/hilarious (best left to the imagination).

Of course you may also edit/delete your post in response but it's still a funny hack IMO.

Like above?

Quality shitpost. Take your Merit and get outta here! Cheesy

Where are actmyname, The Pharmacist and Lauda with their quick negative's when you need them? Quickly visiting other threads? Roll Eyes

iCEBREAKER

legendary

Activity: 2156

Merit: 1072

Crypto is the separation of Power and State.

Quote from: TMAN on January 26, 2018, 03:10:18 PM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on January 26, 2018, 03:08:47 PM

Quote from: TMAN on January 26, 2018, 02:44:34 PM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on January 26, 2018, 02:42:56 PM

Here is a handy reference for those confused by the Merit system.

1 Merit = Like (AKA Agree)
2 Merit = Upvote
3 Merit = loves to touch goats testicles
4 Merit = Upvote twice (you know you've always wanted this feature)
20 Merit = Bitcointalk Gold

_{/Merit whoring}

I gave you 3 mate just to mess with your head a little..

great idea though, but it not quite as clear cut as loads of people didn't get as many as us!

It just occurred to me that we can go back and Edit our posts to anything we want without changing their Merit score. Cheesy

EG, I could add a "3 Merit" tier to my list and make it say something really rude/hilarious (best left to the imagination).

Of course you may also edit/delete your post in response but it's still a funny hack IMO.

Like above?

Quality shitpost. Take your Merit and get outta here! Cheesy

Deena

member

Activity: 238

Merit: 49

Quote from: Creeptolady on January 26, 2018, 04:24:16 PM

Quite honestly, it's painful! There should have been a community poll about this merit thing. I think already abiding by the rules and not posting spam is merit in itself. If that is the case, most everyone deserves at least 1000 of these merits! I don't even think it makes any meaning and will only end up devaluing this forum, giving other fora the chance to edge out over it.

Could you tell me which fora you are talking about? I'm interested! You can send me a PM to prevent negative tags from the clique in charge.

suchmoon

legendary

Activity: 3654

Merit: 8909

https://bpip.org

Quote from: ?? on ??

ok, here is my story

yesterday i met this merit system and i not studed it 100 % and made a mistake sent to my 2 friends 40 merits ( 20 per one just for test ) they also answered me sending 40 merit total, today i studed this and understud i made mistake and now I am accused farmind and my trust goes to neg and no one is interested my explanations

i not shitposter, not spammer and not farmer

and now thus i understand this merit system, i no more will use it because i scare to use it
if i send merit and like someone post and actmyname and others will set red colour to my trust and will call me farmer and shitposter ?
its dangerous to use

where's the justice?

You forgot to mention that you also exchanged trust with your suspected alts way before merit was implemented. Was it also a "mistake"?

Please start a new thread in Reputation, this is not the right place.

gopaljiverma

member

Activity: 93

Merit: 15

Quote from: ?? on ??

ok, here is my story

yesterday i met this merit system and i not studed it 100 % and made a mistake sent to my 2 friends 40 merits ( 20 per one just for test ) they also answered me sending 40 merit total, today i studed this and understud i made mistake and now I am accused farmind and my trust goes to neg and no one is interested my explanations

i not shitposter, not spammer and not farmer

and now thus i understand this merit system, i no more will use it because i scare to use it
if i send merit and like someone post and actmyname and others will set red colour to my trust and will call me farmer and shitposter ?
its dangerous to use

where's the justice?

You made the same mistake twice ? If you were testing the feature, why you did twice ? Also, you friends repeating this and that also for your account cannot be a coincidence. Please try to read meta section for information regarding latest changes.

CrazyCraig

sr. member

Activity: 501

Merit: 340

Bye Felisha!

This merit system is so flawed its ridiculous. While I do support it some of the goals are outlandish and unreachable by the average user. I highly doubt most people will engage with merit.

Creeptolady

member

Activity: 70

Merit: 13

Quote from: adotrulez on January 26, 2018, 12:25:22 PM

I have a long list of reasons why i detest this new system:

1. It DOES NOT IN ANY WAY REDUCE SPAMMING, it only changes the game to hustling, begging and trading the so called shit merit
2. I already foresee these so called merits becoming some high value market commodity...i hear people are already buying and selling the damned thing! Well, I for one do not have a dime to give to anyone in the name of trying to rank up.
3. What happens to true lovers of the community like me who have been ranking up through honest and detailed as well as informative posts all this while? Suddenly that motivation has gone out the window.
4. It has officially killed the ability of anyone to genuinely rank up cos even if one deserves to be 'merited', no one is willing to give them out freely.

In summary, MERIT SUCKS AND THIS DECISION SHOULD BE REVERSED TO PRESERVE THIS COMMUNITY from going into half communism, half capitalism mode.

There!! I just posted a very long non spammy write up but thanks to the new system, it doesn't count for dust!

Quite honestly, it's painful! There should have been a community poll about this merit thing. I think already abiding by the rules and not posting spam is merit in itself. If that is the case, most everyone deserves at least 1000 of these merits! I don't even think it makes any meaning and will only end up devaluing this forum, giving other fora the chance to edge out over it.

QuestionAuthority

legendary

Activity: 2156

Merit: 1393

You lead and I'll watch you walk away.

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on January 26, 2018, 03:08:47 PM

Quote from: TMAN on January 26, 2018, 02:44:34 PM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on January 26, 2018, 02:42:56 PM

Here is a handy reference for those confused by the Merit system.

1 Merit = Like (AKA Agree)
2 Merit = Upvote
4 Merit = Upvote twice (you know you've always wanted this feature)
20 Merit = Bitcointalk Gold

_{/Merit whoring}

I gave you 3 mate just to mess with your head a little..

great idea though, but it not quite as clear cut as loads of people didn't get as many as us!

It just occurred to me that we can go back and Edit our posts to anything we want without changing their Merit score. Cheesy

EG, I could add a "3 Merit" tier to my list and make it say something really rude/hilarious (best left to the imagination).

Of course you may also edit/delete your post in response but it's still a funny hack IMO.

LOL you frigin crack me up iCEBREAKER. You know you’re only crazy because you don’t have BCX to keep you in line anymore.

BTW: put your old avatar back up dammit. It’s like I’m looking at you naked now.

suchmoon

legendary

Activity: 3654

Merit: 8909

https://bpip.org

Quote from: dogie on January 26, 2018, 02:27:13 PM

I really, really, really dislike popularity-based metrics and voting, more so on a site like this where there are so many people with networks of anonymous accounts, and even more so when its grandfathered in. I remember when another forum I was a high contributor on added essentially the same thing, and I had 10,000s of posts and 0 of it. My guides combined have millions of page views, but I will receive nothing from them. Additionally, I would be penalized for not reposting the same guide every 120 days, which seems to go against the stated intentions.

Why do you think you wouldn't get merit for your guides or penalized for not reposting? Those types of threads seem to be perfect for this. Surely some of those millions will find them worthy.

suchmoon

legendary

Activity: 3654

Merit: 8909

https://bpip.org

It looks like 14 more sources have been added:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=sources

Quote

There are 49 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 9925 sMerit per 30 days

mithrim

sr. member

Activity: 434

Merit: 436

Well, while I appreciate the effort of improving the quality, I wonder if those changes are based on research or the pious wish that this will work. It doesn't matter how you call it, every form of ranking systems that are based on user-rating incentivizes trading and any kind of cheating whether by paying people making it a requirement in an airdrop etc.
Making it a commodity is a joke, sorry. It reeks of greed, an elite making their accounts even more valuable.

Another question: Why is the initial merit score equal to the minimum required to your rank? Why not proportionally to the actual activity?
Hope this will work, but I doubt it. Newbies will be disregarded and won't get merit, while known members will give themselves merit back and forth...

Deena

member

Activity: 238

Merit: 49

Quote from: TMAN on January 26, 2018, 03:10:18 PM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on January 26, 2018, 03:08:47 PM

Quote from: TMAN on January 26, 2018, 02:44:34 PM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on January 26, 2018, 02:42:56 PM

Here is a handy reference for those confused by the Merit system.

1 Merit = Like (AKA Agree)
2 Merit = Upvote
3 Merit = loves to touch goats testicles
4 Merit = Upvote twice (you know you've always wanted this feature)
20 Merit = Bitcointalk Gold

_{/Merit whoring}

I gave you 3 mate just to mess with your head a little..

great idea though, but it not quite as clear cut as loads of people didn't get as many as us!

It just occurred to me that we can go back and Edit our posts to anything we want without changing their Merit score. Cheesy

EG, I could add a "3 Merit" tier to my list and make it say something really rude/hilarious (best left to the imagination).

Of course you may also edit/delete your post in response but it's still a funny hack IMO.

Like above?

Are you going to quote everything you merit? That would really spam the forum. Cheesy

TMAN

legendary

Activity: 1414

Merit: 1808

Exchange Bitcoin quickly-https://blockchain.com.do

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on January 26, 2018, 03:08:47 PM

Quote from: TMAN on January 26, 2018, 02:44:34 PM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on January 26, 2018, 02:42:56 PM

Here is a handy reference for those confused by the Merit system.

1 Merit = Like (AKA Agree)
2 Merit = Upvote
3 Merit = loves to touch goats testicles
4 Merit = Upvote twice (you know you've always wanted this feature)
20 Merit = Bitcointalk Gold

_{/Merit whoring}

I gave you 3 mate just to mess with your head a little..

great idea though, but it not quite as clear cut as loads of people didn't get as many as us!

It just occurred to me that we can go back and Edit our posts to anything we want without changing their Merit score. Cheesy

EG, I could add a "3 Merit" tier to my list and make it say something really rude/hilarious (best left to the imagination).

Of course you may also edit/delete your post in response but it's still a funny hack IMO.

Like above?

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