Merit Requirement for Member Proposal

tbct_mt2

hero member

Activity: 2366

Merit: 838

Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 02, 2018, 07:41:47 AM

if you worried about them trying abuse bounty campaign . better suggest to remove Member to join any bounty campaign .
and im already see for some bounty manager already do that .

I saw them (only allow Sr and above to join).
Then after restrict Member rank to join campaigns, what is next step after 3 or 6 months later?
Restrict Full Member to join, then over time (one year or more), only Hero can join and at the end only Ledgendary can join campaigns.

Ridiculous ideas!

Merit system has changed the forum, and will continue to show its magic impacts on users (especially spammers, part of them).

Jet Cash

legendary

Activity: 2814

Merit: 2472

https://JetCash.com

Quote from: temarazin on March 03, 2018, 08:53:27 AM

ps English isn't my native language. And I just want to improve it. That's why I post in English threads. I'm not interested in merits here :/

Well that raises an interesrting possibility. How about an english training board? If membersare going to use the general boards to improve their english, then it would be better to have a special interest board where english speaking members could help them.

temarazin

full member

Activity: 224

Merit: 186

Quote from: TheUltraElite on March 03, 2018, 05:04:50 AM

All members who have previous ranks and are not merit sources got a pre-determined number of Merits and sMerits. Of which the Merit amount was given on the basis of the rank they already had. Please read the topics more carefully before commenting on such - theymos clearly mentioned how much each rank got when the merits system started.

Hmm, I was wrong. I mean sMerits was given free. So it needs time, because:

Quote from: sncc on March 01, 2018, 11:47:15 AM

In total 85524 sMerits have been sent.
This number is much larger than 11975 sMerits, which are currently created by 57 merit sources per month.
The sMerits created by 57 merit sources are not sufficient and most of used sMerits were initially assigned ones.

Topic starter asked why so easy to get enough merits for Member, I answered. What the problem?

ps English isn't my native language. And I just want to improve it. That's why I post in English threads. I'm not interested in merits here :/

TheUltraElite

legendary

Activity: 2898

Merit: 1253

So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)

Quote from: temarazin on March 02, 2018, 07:29:13 AM

Merit system started only one month ago. All Members and higher ranks got free merit, so it seems like too easy to get 10 merits. Because a big number of merits was free.

All members who have previous ranks and are not merit sources got a pre-determined number of Merits and sMerits. Of which the Merit amount was given on the basis of the rank they already had. Please read the topics more carefully before commenting on such - theymos clearly mentioned how much each rank got when the merits system started.

Quote from: GDragon on March 02, 2018, 08:22:02 AM

It doesn't have sense at all. We know that there's multiple person struggling in the present merit system then you will add a new one? Maybe we consider the feelings of other not ourself only. I like your point but as new and striving to learn it is hard.

What does not make sense? Care to explain your concern and not be so vague. The system is working fine if you ask me. Pajeets everywhere are crying aloud for merits and it really makes me feel satisfied that the account farming rings have been put at at sort of restriction ..as of now.

izanagi narukami

legendary

Activity: 2030

Merit: 1028

For low member, IMO 10 merit should enough to test out someone compatibility because it's difficult to earn merit except you're great poster like Danny H

Let say if member need 100 or 1000 merit, are you capable to earn it in short time ?

Hillthy

newbie

Activity: 229

Merit: 0

Quote from: temarazin on March 02, 2018, 07:29:13 AM

Merit system started only one month ago. All Members and higher ranks got free merit, so it seems like too easy to get 10 merits. Because a big number of merits was free. I think we have to wait some time yet and only then decide about merit requirements for ranks.

Yes, not sure that 10 merits are easy by a large number of members from the community. How many high ranking members are interested in donating merits? It is clear that this can increase inflation from the consequences that the effects of merits cause over time.

Mind Control

member

Activity: 224

Merit: 41

Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 02, 2018, 07:41:47 AM

Quote from: Mind Control on February 26, 2018, 04:17:37 PM

I see many Jr. Members easily rank up to Member because the required Merits is only 10.

Easy ?? im personally to earn single merit its not an easy . its need more effort . Time and Posting something usefull and constructive post to get CHANCE for single merit.
if you worried about them trying abuse bounty campaign . better suggest to remove Member to join any bounty campaign .
and im already see for some bounty manager already do that .
hopes it will implement so you need 80 merit away to participate . and i can learn from you " how to earn 10 Merit Easily "

Quote from: seven2smoke1 on March 02, 2018, 05:44:04 PM

So did you think that getting 10 merit points is easy? People spend hours and hours to read carefully and build their knowledge related to the field of cryptocurrencies to be able to get some merit points when they post anything. That's right, that 10 points is too low compared to 150 for Full member or 250 for Sr member to rank up, but to get these points you should improve too much the quality posts including the ideas.

Did both of you read the OP? Or did you comprehend the point of the OP? I guess not.

Earning Merit is easy to those Newbie/Jr. Member who is/are alt/s of someone who has accounts with high ranks. I did not generalized that earning Merit is easy. I am quite aware many are struggling but that's their fault in the first place. I hope you know what's their fault.

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150 for Full member

It's only 100. Adding 50 more, ey? lol.

seven2smoke1

full member

Activity: 532

Merit: 132

Quote from: Mind Control on February 26, 2018, 04:17:37 PM

I see many Jr. Members easily rank up to Member because the required Merits is only 10.

So did you think that getting 10 merit points is easy? People spend hours and hours to read carefully and build their knowledge related to the field of cryptocurrencies to be able to get some merit points when they post anything. That's right, that 10 points is too low compared to 150 for Full member or 250 for Sr member to rank up, but to get these points you should improve too much the quality posts including the ideas.

Karavadinos

jr. member

Activity: 74

Merit: 5

IOS - The secure, scalable blockchain

Quote from: Mind Control on February 26, 2018, 04:17:37 PM

I see many Jr. Members easily rank up to Member because the required Merits is only 10. And I can see many merit farming (an example:
see here). We are aware that this is done by some/many bounty hunters out there. This is an obvious abuse and would like to propose some minor changes in the required merit requirement for Members.

Instead of 10 Merits for Members, why don't we increase it to 25 Merits? This way, Jr. Members will have to strive harder in order to rank up to Member. Merit farming will be difficult because their sMerits will diminish fast.

Insights are welcome.

I think 10 merits for a beginner to rank up is very suitable, Jr members are willing to learn and they are trying to work hard and increase their posts qualities to rank up, a lot of low rank users here are capable to write competent posts and yet they don't get attention, it could be because of their weak and small rank or maybe this forum is unfair and you need to be famous to get merits.

Kim Ji Won

full member

Activity: 350

Merit: 110

Quote from: SaltySpitoon on March 01, 2018, 04:41:26 PM

Quote from: Karavadinos on March 01, 2018, 04:21:31 PM

Just increase the amount of quality posts you make to increase your odds.

Precisely! Most members here don't realize that because when they try to make a really good post and put a lot of effort in it, they expect their post to get merited in no time, not thinking that there are a lot of factors why his/her post would not get any. There is a big possibility that their post got flooded by new replies and people that might find it helpful and merit worthy missed it. So, for better chances of posts getting merited, increase the amount of that kind.

GDragon

full member

Activity: 658

Merit: 126

It doesn't have sense at all. We know that there's multiple person struggling in the present merit system then you will add a new one? Maybe we consider the feelings of other not ourself only. I like your point but as new and striving to learn it is hard.

Dread Pirate Roberts

sr. member

Activity: 1512

Merit: 326

Quote from: Mind Control on February 26, 2018, 04:17:37 PM

I see many Jr. Members easily rank up to Member because the required Merits is only 10.

Easy ?? im personally to earn single merit its not an easy . its need more effort . Time and Posting something usefull and constructive post to get CHANCE for single merit.
if you worried about them trying abuse bounty campaign . better suggest to remove Member to join any bounty campaign .
and im already see for some bounty manager already do that .
hopes it will implement so you need 80 merit away to participate . and i can learn from you " how to earn 10 Merit Easily "

temarazin

full member

Activity: 224

Merit: 186

Merit system started only one month ago. All Members and higher ranks got free merit, so it seems like too easy to get 10 merits. Because a big number of merits was free. I think we have to wait some time yet and only then decide about merit requirements for ranks.

speem28

sr. member

Activity: 546

Merit: 255

Quote from: Hssn on February 27, 2018, 12:10:39 PM

Bro you don't feel our pain!!! how hard is to get even 1merit look at mine, and your saying increase it to 15 more Angry

Have you ever wondered why it is hard for you to get just even 1 merit? Look at the way you are posting bro and you'll see my point.

Quote from: blackmagical on February 28, 2018, 03:57:30 AM

I think 10 Merit is a difficult for newbie and Jr. Member because they are new to crypto. So, they don't have enough knowledge and experience to generate a quality post to be given merits by another people.
In my opinion, 10 merits is enough to become Member. If you increase it to 25 Merits, you would change the requirement for all ranks and I think I will never ranked up to Full Members

)))
Remember that merit system is used to respect. However, high requirement will stimulate buy/sell merit and I think theymos don't like this

The point here is, it is really hard to get merit unless you put effort and thought in your posts that is why even if you are a newbie or a jr. member and don't have enough knowledge about crypto, the merit system will obliged you more to do some research first and learn the know-hows of cryptocurrencies rather than spamming useless thread and posts throughout the forum.

fxstrike

member

Activity: 238

Merit: 40

First Payment Gateway using GoldBacked cryptocurre

Quote from: Mind Control on February 26, 2018, 04:17:37 PM

I see many Jr. Members easily rank up to Member because the required Merits is only 10. And I can see many merit farming (an example:
see here). We are aware that this is done by some/many bounty hunters out there. This is an obvious abuse and would like to propose some minor changes in the required merit requirement for Members.

Instead of 10 Merits for Members, why don't we increase it to 25 Merits? This way, Jr. Members will have to strive harder in order to rank up to Member. Merit farming will be difficult because their sMerits will diminish fast.

Insights are welcome.

Some post I have seen earning Merit from highly respected members is just one liner, its given merit just because he likes it or he like the person or just returning favors of merit he received earlier on, given that such cases exist and because there is finite amount of sMerit available I think lower limit is much better. Please remember that sMerit is specifically for high quality post only not for exchanging favor. once its abused that way, merit will concentrate between few people only.

If you check the stats that is what happening now, the highest number of merit were exchanging between this few people only, therefore targeting bounty hunters merit farming by setting higher limit will not change anything.

TheBeardedBaby

legendary

Activity: 2240

Merit: 3150

₿uy / $ell ..oeleo ;(

In addition, the sMerits for this month are probably over so here comes a new month and all the sources will be/are refilled with fresh sMerit to give. It is a cycle process but we just made our first turn.

SaltySpitoon

legendary

Activity: 2590

Merit: 2156

Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?

Quote from: Karavadinos on March 01, 2018, 04:21:31 PM

The whole merit system is not actually a solution for spammers, alright i don't deny it is a good step from the moderators to clean up the forum but it is still unfair. A lot of people with Sr.member and under ranks are posting high qualified posts and they don't get merits just because people here don't have the time to read everything or to pay attention to every good post and give merits, so that's why it is unfair. Actually the campaigns managers are the ones to count on to clean up this forum, since they are responsible for hiring, their job is to check posts of everyone applying for a campaign and to pick the high qualified people only.

Ranking up your account isn't a right, its a privilege. Requiring people to post actual constructive and useful posts should be expected, not just encouraged. If only 10% of someone's posts are good posts, they might not be noticed. If nearly 100% of a person's posts are useful, they will be noticed, and they deserve the merits they earn.

In addition, the merit system is still relatively new. A member a year from now that is having an issue may do a search, find a post that helps them, and merits that post. You just shouldn't expect each and every good post you make to earn you merit immediately. Just increase the amount of quality posts you make to increase your odds.

Karavadinos

jr. member

Activity: 74

Merit: 5

IOS - The secure, scalable blockchain

Quote from: Shenzou on March 01, 2018, 02:33:21 PM

Quote from: athanz88 on March 01, 2018, 12:33:33 PM

One alternative solution, or addition can be done to this is to make a merit requirement for some ranks to join a signature campaign (o i believe that many people are here for money, getting money is good, i cant deny it), maybe like making a different payment rates or anything, so it is not an improvement from the admin, but it is an improvement from the community because the impact of merits. I think it is a good addition to the merit system.

I one hundred percent agree with you on this part, just like you said the whole point of the merit system is to stop shitposters and alt accounts farmers, who are doing this to earn more money from signiture campaigns, so setting merit requirments to get into them would solve the whole problem, campaign managers are responsible for keeping the forum clean as much as the moderators, so they should be more restrictive when accepting applications.

The whole merit system is not actually a solution for spammers, alright i don't deny it is a good step from the moderators to clean up the forum but it is still unfair. A lot of people with Sr.member and under ranks are posting high qualified posts and they don't get merits just because people here don't have the time to read everything or to pay attention to every good post and give merits, so that's why it is unfair. Actually the campaigns managers are the ones to count on to clean up this forum, since they are responsible for hiring, their job is to check posts of everyone applying for a campaign and to pick the high qualified people only.

Shenzou

sr. member

Activity: 1400

Merit: 283

Quote from: athanz88 on March 01, 2018, 12:33:33 PM

One alternative solution, or addition can be done to this is to make a merit requirement for some ranks to join a signature campaign (o i believe that many people are here for money, getting money is good, i cant deny it), maybe like making a different payment rates or anything, so it is not an improvement from the admin, but it is an improvement from the community because the impact of merits. I think it is a good addition to the merit system.

I one hundred percent agree with you on this part, just like you said the whole point of the merit system is to stop shitposters and alt accounts farmers, who are doing this to earn more money from signiture campaigns, so setting merit requirments to get into them would solve the whole problem, campaign managers are responsible for keeping the forum clean as much as the moderators, so they should be more restrictive when accepting applications.

lukyanli

jr. member

Activity: 40

Merit: 3

Quote from: Sasuke102001 on February 28, 2018, 06:40:40 AM

No use whatever new systems are introduced there are some people who always find a way to bypass it or violate the system and continue their shit work that fills up the forum with spam and these guys just try to get to higher ranks just to earn some dollars. Maybe Theymos would do something about the people who are farming merit or getting merit too easily.

That is true to some extent. With a new rule, the staff wants to fix the current loopholes. But since no system is perfect, members start looking for ways to bypass that new rule as well. However, overall, this makes things difficult for the spammers. If we keep seeing such changes at regular intervals, a lot of spammers will give up eventually. They will realize that their tricks will not last very long and it is not thus worth it using here.

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