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tranthidung

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Quote from: examplens on May 05, 2024, 05:12:15 AM

Quote from: tranthidung on May 04, 2024, 01:03:41 PM

Here you go with the updated list, I don't update the chart because it is a small change, only 100 more sourced merits within 30 days. Totally, there are 109 merit sources now which are less than the ATH of total sources around 130 in mid and late of 2019 BUT there are more sourced merit each 30 days now.

Did I understand correctly that currently, 109 users are merit sources?

No, I did meant that there are 109 merit sources now after one new source added recently but there is only 100 additional sourced merit to total smerit monthly (30 days). It increases from 32890 to 32990.

Quote from: tranthidung on May 04, 2024, 01:03:41 PM

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     +----------------------------------+
     |      date   meritsource   smerit |
     |----------------------------------|
  1. | 01may2024           109    32990 |
  2. | 22mar2024           108    32890 |

Quote from: joker_josue on May 05, 2024, 04:07:28 AM

_{@tranthidung the OP images are broken...} Wink

I am updating it now. Thanks.

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Quote from: examplens on May 05, 2024, 05:12:15 AM

Did I understand correctly that currently, 109 users are merit sources?
I haven't noticed so many of them, at least not on the global part of the forum, I assume that most of them are from local boards.

Most Merit sources^[1] came with an average of less than 300 sMerit per month, there are about 5-6 with around 1000 sMerit, and the rest are between 250 and 100 or less, some of them are inactive or active in local baords.
I also think that @El duderino_ and some sources are more interested in WO so you don't notice many of them.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=sources

examplens

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Quote from: tranthidung on May 04, 2024, 01:03:41 PM

Here you go with the updated list, I don't update the chart because it is a small change, only 100 more sourced merits within 30 days. Totally, there are 109 merit sources now which are less than the ATH of total sources around 130 in mid and late of 2019 BUT there are more sourced merit each 30 days now.

Did I understand correctly that currently, 109 users are merit sources?

I haven't noticed so many of them, at least not on the global part of the forum, I assume that most of them are from local boards.

LoyceV

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Quote from: joker_josue on May 05, 2024, 04:07:28 AM

What happened in 2019, so that around 40 users stopped being sources of merit?

That happened around this time. In short, active Merit sources got an increase, inactive Merit sources were removed.

joker_josue

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I was looking at that list and I got curious. What happened in 2019, so that around 40 users stopped being sources of merit?

_{@tranthidung the OP images are broken...} Wink

tranthidung

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Quote from: Hazink on May 04, 2024, 06:31:19 AM

I think the list has been updated. I checked again yesterday and am still confirming this morning that there has been one merit source added to the list, which now makes it a total of 109 merit sources from the previous 108, which was last time.

And judging from the Bpip data , there is a high possibility that the new approved moderator to the Nigerian local board could be the new merit source.

Thanks.

Here you go with the updated list, I don't update the chart because it is a small change, only 100 more sourced merits within 30 days. Totally, there are 109 merit sources now which are less than the ATH of total sources around 130 in mid and late of 2019 BUT there are more sourced merit each 30 days now.

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     +----------------------------------+
     |      date   meritsource   smerit |
     |----------------------------------|
  1. | 01may2024           109    32990 |
  2. | 22mar2024           108    32890 |
  3. | 28nov2023           109    33140 |
  4. | 31jul2023           109    33940 |
  5. | 11jul2022           110    33989 |
  6. | 06jul2021           111    34139 |
  7. | 28jun2020            97    21171 |
  8. | 15nov2019            98    21671 |
  9. | 14nov2019            90    18821 |
 10. | 30oct2019           130    20895 |
     |----------------------------------|
 11. | 27jun2019           131    21045 |
 12. | 15mar2019           130    20605 |
 13. | 06feb2019           122    20835 |
 14. | 05jan2019           123    20735 |
 15. | 22dec2018           120    22055 |
 16. | 17nov2018           119    22045 |
 17. | 17sep2018           120    23045 |
 18. | 11jul2018            83    19100 |
 19. | 06jul2018            82    18900 |
 20. | 18may2018            80    18500 |
     |----------------------------------|
 21. | 22mar2018            80    17800 |
 22. | 12mar2018            77    17650 |
 23. | 01mar2018            57    11975 |
 24. | 26jan2018            49     9025 |
 25. | 24jan2018            35     8125 |
     +----------------------------------+

Hazink

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Quote from: logfiles on April 14, 2024, 10:12:06 AM

Quote from: tranthidung on March 22, 2024, 10:40:47 AM

Again, I am not sure when the change happened but today, by checking I see small changes than a last merit bell.

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There are 108 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 32890 sMerit per 30 days

Looks like those figures are not regularly updated or probably a coincidence?
Three weeks later and it still looks the same.

Another merit source seems to have been banned. I think it will take a while before they remove him from the list.

That being said, at least there's some flow of merits lately, according to my observation.

I think the list has been updated. I checked again yesterday and am still confirming this morning that there has been one merit source added to the list, which now makes it a total of 109 merit sources from the previous 108, which was last time.

And judging from the Bpip data , there is a high possibility that the new approved moderator to the Nigerian local board could be the new merit source.

tranthidung

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Update the stats list for merit source and smerit numbers as well as two charts.

Note

Dates and stats presented here are on dates I randomly check and see changes. Actual changes probably happen on other days.

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     +-------------------------------+
     |      date   merits~e   smerit |
     |-------------------------------|
  1. | 24jan2018         35     8125 |
  2. | 26jan2018         49     9025 |
  3. | 01mar2018         57    11975 |
  4. | 12mar2018         77    17650 |
  5. | 22mar2018         80    17800 |
     |-------------------------------|
  6. | 18may2018         80    18500 |
  7. | 06jul2018         82    18900 |
  8. | 11jul2018         83    19100 |
  9. | 17sep2018        120    23045 |
 10. | 17nov2018        119    22045 |
     |-------------------------------|
 11. | 22dec2018        120    22055 |
 12. | 05jan2019        123    20735 |
 13. | 06feb2019        122    20835 |
 14. | 15mar2019        130    20605 |
 15. | 27jun2019        131    21045 |
     |-------------------------------|
 16. | 30oct2019        130    20895 |
 17. | 14nov2019         90    18821 |
 18. | 15nov2019         98    21671 |
 19. | 28jun2020         97    21171 |
 20. | 06jul2021        111    34139 |
     |-------------------------------|
 21. | 11jul2022        110    33989 |
 22. | 31jul2023        109    33940 |
 23. | 28nov2023        109    33140 |
 24. | 22mar2024        108    32890 |
     +-------------------------------+

tranthidung

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Quote from: logfiles on April 14, 2024, 10:12:06 AM

Another merit source seems to have been banned. I think it will take a while before they remove him from the list.

The user can be considered as a forum OG and I guessed he is one of very early merit sources in the forum since January 2018. I read accusation on tyz for using AI and it's bad if he actually uses it systematically to make his posts.

5 days since his ban, he was not active with his account.

Today, stats are as follows

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There are 108 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 32890 sMerit per 30 days

It means no change from theymos.

Sandra_hakeem

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on March 23, 2024, 10:31:27 AM

But hey, at least there aren't nearly as many merit-bitching or merit-begging threads these days. For those of you who haven't been here a few years, those were a massive annoyance for a long, long time.

well, lemme get this straight; Was there any rules that athwarted that behavior before the merit system? Uhmm, I think no so I can safely say they all polluted the system with these subnormalities. I think that's it

My heart bleeds and pulsates unconsciously every time I visit his profile; how on earth do we keep losing assets like him ? Death is really a horrible face of afterlife

Quote from: LoyceV on March 23, 2024, 10:16:35 AM

Shitposters complaining about Merit. All it proves is the system works as intended

For the first time, I'll agree with you in his case. Yes!

Tungbulu

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Quote from: Upgrade00 on April 15, 2024, 12:32:27 PM

Quote from: Tungbulu on April 15, 2024, 12:28:50 PM

Well, what's wrong here could be right somewhere else.

Precisely, and you adjust to the rules of the forum you're in and hoping to get some bucks from.

And in general passing off content as yours is unethical and frowned upon.

Someone set the rules.
So others can follow the rules And others needs to know the rules to follow the rules.
People don't just come to a community and know the rules. Although it's ethical/logical that the first thing you should do is inquire about the rules when you find yourself in a new place/community but then again, what if the person only got access to few of the rules and not all of it. Is he still guilty of breaking a rule he never got to know about?

Indeed, in the eyes of the law, ignorance should be an excuse for defaulters but then again, what's the law if it can achieve it's true cause, that's to punish actual offenders.

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And in general passing off content as yours is unethical and frowned upon.

Some who don't know this would consider it to be just a harmless way of sharing of useful information they don't really have access to while being ignorant of the implications of their actions. Cmon, that's somehow understandable.
I'm not justifying an offence though, I'm just trying to state a fact.

Upgrade00

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Quote from: Tungbulu on April 15, 2024, 12:28:50 PM

Well, what's wrong here could be right somewhere else.

Precisely, and you adjust to the rules of the forum you're in and hoping to get some bucks from.

And in general passing off content as yours is unethical and frowned upon.

Tungbulu

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Quote from: LoyceV on April 15, 2024, 12:25:24 PM

Quote from: Tungbulu on April 15, 2024, 12:13:30 PM

How about accounts that were issued the permaban for using AI content generator or plagiarism, without first issuing a warning and without any record of previous ban cases. I mean we have such cases too. Can we consider such cases to be unjust especially maybe if/when the culprit claims to be ignorant of the offence.

"I didn't know stealing is wrong"?

Well, what's wrong here could be right somewhere else.
What's considered stealing something in one place/race could also be the right means to legally obtaining something in another. Grin

LoyceV

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Quote from: Tungbulu on April 15, 2024, 12:13:30 PM

How about accounts that were issued the permaban for using AI content generator or plagiarism, without first issuing a warning and without any record of previous ban cases. I mean we have such cases too. Can we consider such cases to be unjust especially maybe if/when the culprit claims to be ignorant of the offence.

"I didn't know stealing is wrong"?

Tungbulu

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Quote from: FatFork on April 14, 2024, 01:16:50 PM

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on April 14, 2024, 01:00:26 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 14, 2024, 12:36:37 PM

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The account was possibly banned after certain practices were highlighted here and here. I figure more posts were either reported or inspected in order to determine the final outcome (plagiarism is easy to prove, use of AI will likely take a bit more research in order to be able to conclude with enough confidence of not crossing a false positive).

I think his case might have something to do with him being banned for plagiarism before. He got a second chance after his ban appeal in 2019. It is possible that the moderators have records or check the logs of such cases so they issued the permaban without much hesitation.

How about accounts that were issued the permaban for using AI content generator or plagiarism, without first issuing a warning and without any record of previous ban cases. I mean we have such cases too. Can we consider such cases to be unjust especially maybe if/when the culprit claims to be ignorant of the offence.

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Quote from: DdmrDdmr on April 14, 2024, 01:00:26 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 14, 2024, 12:36:37 PM

<...>

The account was possibly banned after certain practices were highlighted here and here. I figure more posts were either reported or inspected in order to determine the final outcome (plagiarism is easy to prove, use of AI will likely take a bit more research in order to be able to conclude with enough confidence of not crossing a false positive).

I think his case might have something to do with him being banned for plagiarism before. He got a second chance after his ban appeal in 2019. It is possible that the moderators have records or check the logs of such cases so they issued the permaban without much hesitation.

DdmrDdmr

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Quote from: JayJuanGee on April 14, 2024, 12:36:37 PM

<...>

The account was possibly banned after certain practices were highlighted here and here. I figure more posts were either reported or inspected in order to determine the final outcome (plagiarism is easy to prove, use of AI will likely take a bit more research in order to be able to conclude with enough confidence of not crossing a false positive).

JayJuanGee

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Quote from: logfiles on April 14, 2024, 10:12:06 AM

Quote from: tranthidung on March 22, 2024, 10:40:47 AM

Again, I am not sure when the change happened but today, by checking I see small changes than a last merit bell.

Quote

There are 108 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 32890 sMerit per 30 days

Looks like those figures are not regularly updated or probably a coincidence?
Three weeks later and it still looks the same.

Another merit source seems to have been banned. I think it will take a while before they remove him from the list.

That being said, at least there's some flow of merits lately, according to my observation.

Browsing through recent posts of tyz, I cannot see a reason for the ban.. or at least for me, nothing stands out as a possible reason.

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Quote from: tranthidung on March 22, 2024, 10:40:47 AM

Again, I am not sure when the change happened but today, by checking I see small changes than a last merit bell.

Quote

There are 108 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 32890 sMerit per 30 days

Looks like those figures are not regularly updated or probably a coincidence?
Three weeks later and it still looks the same.

Another merit source seems to have been banned. I think it will take a while before they remove him from the list.

That being said, at least there's some flow of merits lately, according to my observation.

examplens

legendary

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on March 23, 2024, 10:31:27 AM

Quote from: LoyceV on March 23, 2024, 10:16:35 AM

Why don't you put your money where your mouth is, follow the link you quoted, and share maybe 200 or so good posts that haven't been merited yet? I'll make you a deal: if I agree they're good (and I should be able to read them), I'll Merit them. If it's 200 good posts, I'll happily share 800 Merit with them. Good luck.

I'll even up the ante here. If teamsherry follows up and does point out posts you find meritworthy, I'll check all the ones you've merited and if I concur, I'll give them an additional 1 merit.

The problem is that many have the wrong idea of which posts are of good quality and deserve merit. I follow this topic, and from time to time I push someone to raise their rank with the idea of motivating them.
Maybe it's wrong because they are so convinced that they are writing valuable posts, and then we have complaints like this because similar posts have gone "unnoticed" or "died". Obviously not recognizing the difference between motivational merit and deserved.

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