Topic: MERIT unfair? - page 4. (Read 763 times)

yeah.. indeed knowledge not equal to some rank.. as long you can learn, rank is just side effect

Knowledge is free. Everyone who wanted a knowledge doesn't mean he/she needs to rank up.

"...we are centralizing power to those on top..." agree with this. but i think merit system created to minimalized fraud/cheat/spam. however as long i can learn from this forum, it's big rewards for me, bigger than "rank" and "merit".  

Someone said merit system is unfair
Someone said merit system in un-helpful
Someone said merit system is centralized
Someone said they can not get merits for their bad posts
Someone said they actually earn merits for their constructive posts
Someone said they can cheat the forum's admin, moderators to exchange merits
Someone said they can not rank up higher than their current position due to merit system
And so on ...

The fact is merit system is really useful, powerful in controlling spammers to rank up; but it is very meaningful, motivated system for ready-to-learn, constructive users.

Please accept the fact, stop complaining, and never starting such a spam topic, my friend.

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Wrong! It seems that your main purpose to be here is to get 'possible earn'. I guess that what you really implied in your thread (not for getting knowledge, or at least it is not your main purpose to be here). Theymos launched merit system to control spamming endemic in the forum, which occured recently, I guess since the last year (2017) when whole crypto-market and crypto-ecosystem considerably blossomed, which in turn resulted in lots of newcomers/ spammers joined the forum and made it like a landfill with tons of their shitty posts.

I guess eagerly-to-learn newcomers will feel very comfortable with merit system because they will get what they deserved and feel satisfied when seeing spammers, shit-posters stucked at Junior Member rank forever!

Not all of merited posts really deserved to those merit points they got, but the most important thing is merit-beggar, merit-cheater, merit-exchangers will be tagged and / or reported soon, then they will be banned. You should not worry about that, just simply focus to improve your threads' quality.

I don't really understand and get your point. No one has right to request you to send your sMerits to anyone. I would like to emphasize sMerits (sendable merits), not Merits. You can not send your Merits away, but you can do with your sMerits.

Good luck, my friend.

I just came back today from I just can't remember why suddenly I forgot to visit bitcointalk, and merit is the first thing that caught my attention.

My opinion is I think its fair. Some just didn't see or appreciate it at first, but its a good thing, that you post or comment not just for activity but to add sense with it.
Merit is something you gain when someones agree with you, or grant because you doing a great thing in the forum.
And I think its a great way of appreciating other.

Hope they didn't add demerit button, that was UNFAIR.

Life is unfair OP. People who joined the forum early on had a chance to get many free coins that if held would be a small fortune today. You could get a VIP and donator status for a few dollars... At some point all rules were established and it always hurt a group of people just like it seems to be hurting you now.
You can't always be on equal footing!


Thanks, I did!

First, merit is only to rank up and only useful in economic terms for campaigns. If you are not in for money is just a badge that is better if is difficult to get.

Now, if you are here to make profit, know that this forum´s reputation was built by many people that were here before you (and before me indeed) that built something from nothing, including "Satoshi", who was active for years if I am not wrong. So, no it is not unfair that they have a privilege over the people that arrived later. You can´t pretend to build an user rank just by posting crap and have the same status because THAT would definitely not be fair.

What they are asking from you is to contribute to further enhance the reputation of the forum by creating the type of content that made it what it is today. They are giving you that opportunity, so grab it.

In case you still don´t understand, go to any of the google early investors or even the founders and ask them why are you not a millionaire and that you feel frustrated about it. Check out what opportunity will these people give you.

The word unjust is not appropriate. The merit system is made to make this forum a better place. Let's just be patient, sooner or later we'll get there if we give more effort. I'm having hard time getting merits myself because of my shitty posts. Someone even called me a merit whore for just trying to answer questions and I answered it all wrong. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.31913972

We just have to be patient and do our best . There's always room for improvement. We newbies should take this as constructive criticisms for this will bring the best in ourselves. Learning is a process. Be patient and never give up!;D

Always look at the brighter side not just after the merits and rank ups! Have fun.

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Chuck Norris can actually pause an online game.
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If people were really interested in improving their post quality, then the first thing they would do is to read the stickies that are on every board. Then they would read the threads, and stop repeating the same endless low quality posts.

I'm extremely disappointed that the myriad of posters with minimal command of english have stayed away from the english improvement threads. If they really wanted to "earn" merits, then they would be prepared to work to gain them. Instead of that, they seem to hang around in the high traffic threads displaying their dog-eared posts, and hoping that a merit will fall out of somebody's wallet.

How many of these posters have actually looked up the meaning of the word "merit", and if so, do they understand it?

That is why merit was given to challenge newbies to post quality. Even it was not merited it is okey, just continue to write helpful post.


Unjust if we does not apply the rules but look around in meta section you can find that it is applied not just for newbies or jr but for all.

FYI, Decentralized doesn't have relation to merit.

I can understand your concern but I think that since merit feature is a new feature, it will take time to inculcate the habit of using it in a natural way. It is difficult to avoid anyone from selling merits but we have some smart members here who keep track of these things and report/red trust such profiles so we don't have to worry about it. It's not unfair, it's new and it's unstable.

I don't find it unfair. You making this thread made me feel that you're only here in this forum just trying to earn btc with no intentions of helping impart knowledge to new people coming in.
If you badly needed merit for you to rank up you need to work on your posts and prove that your worthy to receive one.

i think it is just fair that merit system was introduced. why? because the other members of this forum are just focusing with the quantity of post they can produce rather than the quality of the knowledge they are sharing with other members. spamming becomes common because of mebers are focusing only on the quantity of post they can produce for them to rank up. i think, the main goal of this forum is to learn first before you earn.

You haven't read enough, this has been repeated countless times, the merit system is introduced to reduce spam and account farming.
   

If they really did come here for knowledge, they shouldn't care about ranks at all since all they need is to read and to post which is available in all ranks.


That's exactly the reason, it's because they've been here "first". Reality Check: In most cases it's always been the first ones who gets the most. Did you also whine when the early adopters get the most out of bitcoin?


If you find any user that is abusing the system you can report it in Meta board.


What are you trying to say? I didn't understand a thing

So we can consider that merit is the barrier for person to become easily rank up? Because it looks like without merit no one can be rank up aside from being a Jr member.

Of course they can. They just have to earn it first.

I hope you're not suggesting that every new account should be given a complimentary supply of spendable merit

I think the major unfairness of merit is that newbies cannot give it... Basically it's useless to help newbies with quality posts, unless some high rank member notices you and give you a reward for having helped a newb (i think this is pretty uncommon).
I agree with giving merit to who make quality posts, but i think the "assignment" system should be improved.