Topic: Meriting people over 1k merit - page 2. (Read 779 times)

Frankly speaking, I felt jealous about Legendary rank before who supposedly rank up 3x base on their merit receive because of their good work and having good stats and reports here. Just like    @LoyceV, The pharma, suchmoon, and other legendary ranks members who easily for them to catch up merit and especially @DdmrDdmr Sr. member rank but potential 2x Legendary rank. I don't know if @DdmrDdmr is a breed of genius human or an AI robot who was here in the forum, they all received more than 1k merit.

I am from a third world country and the English language was not our native language so that is my barrier to getting merit but I make them as an inspirational of having a constructive post and proud that I ranked up even my activity is very ahead to my rank. Those Legendaries that deserving to get merit, so they also deserve as a merit source, so to generate merit they need also to receive merit and distribute to us as a lower rank than them, IMO.

PS: Sorry for my bad English I just want to express my feelings and giving my two cents here.

Indeed I do understand that, but I also do understand the OP with saying its very difficult, to always merit good quality new members as merit good legendary members... I do like some legendary members very much their posting, content as style and good humor spirit... as I do love to merit for example you and BoB and HM or V8 and Globb0 and so on, but some guys also made it possible for me to give some Smerit , still its very hard to reward as Legendary as NEW good members, as what I think is a needed place as well ... some good sr members, Hero members with lot of activity but in need for some merit, I hope my merit source application will be approved so I can send some more merits as well where they are needed.
And its very understandable that when a Legendary as yourself post something good thats it get merit from time to time, very logic you appreciate merit as well....

I am one of them. I luckily received bunches of merits and promoted to Full Member, then Senior Member. The period I spent between Full Member and Senior Member was nearly 2 or 3 months, it's one of the most amazing period since my first day in the forum.
There has still no new rank, so you should not put pressure on you. Just forget about merits, relax a bit, and see merit circulation operates in the forum.

It doesn’t matter if we’re Legendary. The only posters who earn shit loads of Merit are those who make threads detailing forum stats & data etc.

For people like myself we still like receiving Merit as & where we can. I have to admit I find it tough lately, I’m not receiving that much these days.

It's more than OK to merit people with over 1K merits here are my two reasons

- Appreciation: Its human nature to be appreciated. It makes one feel good to continue doing the good work for the forum.
So even members who have more than 1K merits need that little appreciation. It helps the forum continue growing with quality members still continuing to contribute despite the number of merits they have already gathered.

- Continued Circulation of Merits When you send merit to members with 1K+ merits, it does not mean that they will not distribute it to other members. Chances are very high that members who contribute so much to the forum will circulate the sMerit to other members of the forum. So why not give them some merit even if it's just one?

This is true, but I thought I recall Theymos ruling out creating a rank above Legendary.  I know there was some discussion about it and I think Theymos chimed in and said it wasn't going to happen.

I agree with that, but as a merit source I do try to favor lower-ranked members with merits if there's a choice between giving them to a Jr. Member vs. a Legendary one.  Sometimes that happens when I'm low on sMerits.  The problem is and always has been that excellent contributions from lower-ranked members are like hen's teeth.  Very rare.  Often when I visit a thread linked to in LoyceV's merit referral thread, all the good posts were made by Legendary members--that's happened multiple times.

When Theymos tapped all those new merit sources last September, he sent out a PM to the new sources in which he implied that sources should hand out merits to Newbies pretty liberally.  I just can't find it within myself to lower my standards, though.  If a post by a new member is just average or is written in very broken English, there's no way I'm going to give them merits for it. 

That's just me, though.  There haven't been many complaints in Meta lately about getting that all-important 1 merit to rank up to Jr. Member, so other sources and non-sources are probably taking more pity on the noobs than I am.

Me too, I was a Newbie when merit introduced in 2018 (nearly the end of January that year). By now, it is amazing to see both of us stood at Senior Member rank with our initiatives to move up, and nearly have beaten merit challenges. When we can surpass challenges, big changes will automatically come to us.
As Vod wrote above, Legendary still need merits because who knows that theymos will add new rank (above Legendary) in the next coming months or years. I think we should merit good posts if we see them, and should not care or hesitate when posts' authors are Legendaries.

Well, its really up to you if you still want to send them sMerit/s. Meriting a post is base on how quality it is and not only for lower rank members that needs for position ranking up... It seems that you've already got enough answers, you can decide now how you are going to distribute your merits.

This question was going around in my mind right after the merit was introduced and when I got used to the forum. Initially when merit was introduced I was sort of a newbie and doesn't really know how the forum works regarding posting, activity, trust etc! I really feel hesitant in meriting the people who got past 1000 merits or legendary people how good their posting quality is. I guess I have given away less than 5 merits in total to Legendary members till now and I would never really merit them unless the post impresses me to hit the +Merit button. Till now, I have given over 130-140 merits (not really sure of them) in total and the highest for a single post was 5 to Coding Enthusiast for his really outstanding explation on a Technical topic. Other than that, the highest merit I have given over is just 2 on rare cases.

I agree merit was introduced to distinguish quality posts, but constantly meriting a single guy even after they have reached the highest rank is not really good (just MHO). Merits are not just infinite in number to throw away 10-20 for bull shit one liners as like in this topic. Here the OP is a newbie when Merit is considered and doesn't really know how the system works.

Another point is that meriting theymos with higher number of merits should be discouraged. We are aware that each of his posts are utmost high quality posts, but if those merits are distributed to lower rank members it could help them in ranking up along with encouraging them to post even more. These are completely based on my opinions and they do vary with each other and how they handle their sMerits. Not all Staffs are Legendary to quit meriting them.

Rule Regarding low-rank members "from Member to newbie," if these members write an acceptable post, you must give some Merits to them.
The rest of the members if they distribute them sMerit to members, you should send what you see acceptable because those members will send that Merits to the other ranks and so on.

Sure, you should merit it to show that merit system actually serves its orginial pure purposes.
However, the point that you should consider is how many merits you should merit such over-meritted threads?

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Personally, my chosen figure is 1 merit for such threads.
The fact is most of OPs of such over-meritted threads already Legendaries, admin, or staffs, they don't need more merits, but we should send them at least one merit as small gift and recognition for their good works.
Additionally, other users can look at such threads and stimulated to do their own objective high quality works.

To be honest I am not doing it usually. I know they are high quality poster and they really no need merit for rank up. So I avoid sending merit them except obvious case. Because we need to help lower rank as well. But you are free to do it, because merit really deserved by post, not by poster. If post is quality enough then you can spend your merit there. You don't need to think about poster.

But I sent merit very rarely those already have more than 1000 merit. Because lower rank users need more merit than Legendary member. And obviously there are lot of lower rank users are contributing good, so we should help them.

On the other hand, they (high ranked users) are also helping newbie especially those are merit sources. So if you think you don't have enough time to discover good post from lower rank user then you should send your smerit to them. So they would distribute it fairly.

Yes, go ahead to merit anything that you think deserves Merit. Circulation of Merit is an important phenomenon , though you can lower the standards for lower rank but giving it to undeserved defeats the purpose.

Let me ask a question to you?

Suppose company A is making good quality  products  and doing well in balance sheet. In other hand product quality of B is inferior and it charges same as company A. Company B is also struggling financially.

Will you now buy the company B products because it is struggling?

Basically, those people you have mentioned has a broad knowledge about cryptocurrency events and even on this forum thats why all of their posts are worth giving merits for. Theres no bad thing about it and its just normal since merits are made for this kind of stuffs. You can just merit people because they dont have one. They should have quality posts and knowledgeable comments. If the post is worth merit for, dont hesitate to give one. Thats the rule and that should it be.

Regardless if they do not need or need it, the purpose of the merit system is to compliment their contribution in the forum.

Yes, merits are one of the determining factor on why we rank-up but we really need to remove the mindset of meriting a user to help them rank-up. Ranking-up in the forum is the by-product of their good work and contribution and should not be the primary reason on why we send merits.

There's one important thing merit those to a post, it highlights that post, make it stand out among it's peers. Forum members gets easily attracted to reading a merited post especially when it's a reply in a thread, so if you find a deserving reply irrespective of what the OP rank is you should merit it. It's your smerits though so you can do as you wish, for higher ranked users I send a maximum of 1smerit and for lower ranked users (that need it more) I send 2 or above when I do have enough Smerit. I prefer meriting higher ranked users reply though more than started topics (I leave that for merit sources).

right now.  It depends on if you think our posts are worthy.  In the future, if a new rank is introduced we will need the merit as much as you. 

I merit posts regardless of person, rank, merit count, gender, kink, earth shape opinion, etc.

Merits are made as a sort of kudos points for good posts in the first place, not made to help people rank up specifically. I just personally give less merit to these higher ranks, to slightly give more help to the lower ranks who actually contribute well to the forum(slightly biased to the lower ranks, but whatever).

Since different ranks have different expected qualities, I don't treat them the same. If those users post something that I perceived as very-very valuable, then I'd still give them sMerits.

They (Legendary) don't need merits but if you like their posts then you can give up 1-2 merits, and imo they deserve merits for good posts but not because they need it.
It's like appreciating or you agree with their suggestions and opinions.

Sometimes I also feel like to give up 5/10/20 merits to some members but my merits are limited, so I always try not to give more than 1 merit.

In this case, I wanted to give the member 10 merits but I only had 2 merits and I gave out all 2.

Now I'm empty and trying to make good posts to earn some merit.