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member
Activity: 322
Merit: 23
February 07, 2018, 05:27:14 AM
#25
Good Day to everyone.
I would like to know if it is a must to add merit count requirements when participating into a campaign, I mean is it better to hire applicants with merits or by basing on their quality post? I have seen yahoo62278 start to come up with the idea of accepting applicants with merits for high payments  but also accepted applicants without merits since the merit feature is fresh.

For clarification, do managers have to hire applicants with merits in a must or not?

Please do correct me if I'm wrong or if I have said something unnecessary.
Thanks for the consideration.

Well, i think if some manager apply merit as their requirement for someone to apply, it is a good thing, since merit indicates that person is worthy of good posts. And looking from the trend, i guess it will happen often in the future, and the requirement will be a lot higher than what we have now.
But it is all up to the manager of the project to decide, without or with merit, now all people in this forum will likely only make not-spammy posts.
Maybe that's the good idea, but it's too early to imposed that merit system to signature campaign some of those members did not have merit received from the high rank members here. Well, they are right, respect of what is the decisions of sir yahoo's rule in his campaign and i think he was right to reduced some spammer from signature campaign members.
Hopefully some CM's are giving chance for this merit system  to the participants it's too early to imposed that, but their decisions was highly respected on us.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 359
February 07, 2018, 05:10:48 AM
#24
Good Day to everyone.
I would like to know if it is a must to add merit count requirements when participating into a campaign, I mean is it better to hire applicants with merits or by basing on their quality post? I have seen yahoo62278 start to come up with the idea of accepting applicants with merits for high payments  but also accepted applicants without merits since the merit feature is fresh.

For clarification, do managers have to hire applicants with merits in a must or not?

Please do correct me if I'm wrong or if I have said something unnecessary.
Thanks for the consideration.

Well, i think if some manager apply merit as their requirement for someone to apply, it is a good thing, since merit indicates that person is worthy of good posts. And looking from the trend, i guess it will happen often in the future, and the requirement will be a lot higher than what we have now.
But it is all up to the manager of the project to decide, without or with merit, now all people in this forum will likely only make not-spammy posts.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
February 07, 2018, 03:57:50 AM
#23
Wholy shit. What a shitty topic which received 22 Merits totally (only counting the OP of the topic). The guy is smart, but not smart enough as he/she imagined.
Over time, spammers and merit farms will be destroyed entirely by merit system.
After farming accounts, now we have merit farms, merit trades, which should be taken into consideration.

Merits will not become what trust has.

Trust is given freely and costs the user nothing.

sMerits are not free - everyone has a limit on how much they can send.  They will eventually run out.

Only the sources can continue to send sMerit as they see fit - and those will be identified and flagged by members if they abuse it, which should lead to Theymos removing them as a source.
member
Activity: 121
Merit: 10
February 07, 2018, 03:50:40 AM
#22
Based on this idiotic thread, I think that I should increase the merit requirement for Full Member and above by another 1-2 hundred. Stop opening threads and asking reasonably stupid questions, such as this one:

For clarification, do managers have to hire applicants with merits in a must or not?

Nice merit farm you've created over here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-not-for-sale-2827352. I can't believe how many users fell for that.
Wholy shit. What a shitty topic which received 22 Merits totally (only counting the OP of the topic). The guy is smart, but not smart enough as he/she imagined.
Over time, spammers and merit farms will be destroyed entirely by merit system.
After farming accounts, now we have merit farms, merit trades, which should be taken into consideration.
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 3061
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February 07, 2018, 03:49:03 AM
#21
Good Day to everyone.
I would like to know if it is a must to add merit count requirements when participating into a campaign, I mean is it better to hire applicants with merits or by basing on their quality post? I have seen yahoo62278 start to come up with the idea of accepting applicants with merits for high payments  but also accepted applicants without merits since the merit feature is fresh.

For clarification, do managers have to hire applicants with merits in a must or not?

Please do correct me if I'm wrong or if I have said something unnecessary.
Thanks for the consideration.

Managers can put whatever restrictions they want on users to join their campaign. I think post history/quality is more important than merits, but I'm all for anything that restricts lazy spammers from getting onto campaigns, but merely having merits shouldn't be the definitive factor on who can join especially if their posts aren't as good as somebody else who has less merits. Sadly, it won't really matter though because there are always going to be dozens of crapcoin campaigns run by people who don't care at all and will accept anyone regardless of quality.
hero member
Activity: 1778
Merit: 520
February 07, 2018, 03:39:03 AM
#20
I would like to know if it is a must to add merit count requirements when participating into a campaign, I mean is it better to hire applicants with merits or by basing on their quality post?

There is no such requirement at the moment but campaign managers can make their additional rules. Merit would be helpful for them to identify the quality posters.

I have seen yahoo62278 start to come up with the idea of accepting applicants with merits for high payments  but also accepted applicants without merits since the merit feature is fresh.

Yes, that was good experiment at the current situation. if any user has less merit then it doesn't mean that they are shitposters, sometimes good posts are getting ignored and they receive less or no merit.

For clarification, do managers have to hire applicants with merits in a must or not?

No, its not compulsory. Campaign managers can include anyone if they identify them as a good poster.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
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February 07, 2018, 03:11:33 AM
#19
Based on this idiotic thread, I think that I should increase the merit requirement for Full Member and above by another 1-2 hundred. Stop opening threads and asking reasonably stupid questions, such as this one:

For clarification, do managers have to hire applicants with merits in a must or not?

Nice merit farm you've created over here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-not-for-sale-2827352. I can't believe how many users fell for that.
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1253
So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)
February 07, 2018, 03:00:59 AM
#18
I think it will be difficult to get merit, especially for me who is new in this forum, I do not know how to get merit. very detrimental to new accounts if bounty payments are based on merit.

Very detrimental indeed. Huh

This was precisely the reason why the merit system was added. People who come to this forum with a hundred alt accounts to claim shitcoins airdrops and bounties.

Grow your account by making quality posts as simple as that.
member
Activity: 162
Merit: 10
February 07, 2018, 02:45:40 AM
#17
I think it will be difficult to get merit, especially for me who is new in this forum, I do not know how to get merit. very detrimental to new accounts if bounty payments are based on merit.
full member
Activity: 322
Merit: 107
February 07, 2018, 02:38:13 AM
#16
Good Day to everyone.
I would like to know if it is a must to add merit count requirements when participating into a campaign, I mean is it better to hire applicants with merits or by basing on their quality post? I have seen yahoo62278 start to come up with the idea of accepting applicants with merits for high payments  but also accepted applicants without merits since the merit feature is fresh.

For clarification, do managers have to hire applicants with merits in a must or not?

Please do correct me if I'm wrong or if I have said something unnecessary.
Thanks for the consideration.
Following their rules and regulations must have no problem,I think yahoo wants us to improved  our post to be constructive and helpful in the forum.We should learn more to avoid shitposting and off topic to make  a high paid in signature campaign and also to gained more knowledge in crypto.
newbie
Activity: 27
Merit: 0
February 07, 2018, 01:09:03 AM
#15
It is a good idea but there is one downside to this. If there is requirement like having at least 1-2 earned merits, we will see members buying these if they have not got any for their posts.
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1253
So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)
February 07, 2018, 01:03:55 AM
#14
This is kind of a chicken and the egg problem - Campaigns just won't accept participants that can't have links on their banners - which will then push value of said accounts upwards and discourage users from giving out merit.
It will reduce the spam and shitposting in the forum which is all that happens everyday. We come here for a discussion on bitcoin or so and get the threads derailed by third world shitposters and scumbag account farmers to "I think its good" and "bitcoin is good" aka padded posts.

"Pushing the value of said accounts" - what exactly are you trying to imply? I believe you have connections to the people associated with buying and selling of accounts.

Nobody discorages users to give away merits - but the post must be convincing enough and engaaging to "gather" merit.

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So in the context of campaigns, merit is not a well thought out concept at all.
The opposite. The shitcampaigns run by alt-rings will slow down.
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 121
February 06, 2018, 10:33:26 PM
#13
I see this kind of requirement in every campaign in a good way, because it really enhances to all to come up with quality posts. With these also, participants are really assess how far they know about the crypto currency.
full member
Activity: 924
Merit: 148
February 06, 2018, 05:47:16 PM
#12
First of all imho sig bounty participants are getting payed for renting their signature and avatar space and the amount of the ads that could be placed there is limited by the rank, making overpayments for merited ones (like yahoo did in one of his campaigns) is just a sign of a good will from the side of the project. Anyway you need to get merits if you need to change your rank. Bounty managers are still have to check the post history of their applicants so it doesn't look like merit brings any significant changes.
copper member
Activity: 103
Merit: 7
February 06, 2018, 05:45:57 PM
#11
Campaigns just won't accept participants that can't have links on their banners
Hmm yes true the low ranks

which will then push value of said accounts upwards and discourage users from giving out merit.
Which then increases the value of said accounts (the low ranks?) Why though? If what i understand was correct, then you're contradicting what you've said.

Ah mixed that up, meant to say it will greatly push up the value of accounts that can actually participate in these campaigns.

A second point is that this creates a flow of merit to people that already have merit, because lower ranked individuals that get sMerit will likely give to higher ranked users for a chance of reciprocated merit.
member
Activity: 350
Merit: 47
February 06, 2018, 05:41:47 PM
#10
Campaigns just won't accept participants that can't have links on their banners
Hmm yes true the low ranks

which will then push value of said accounts upwards and discourage users from giving out merit.
Which then increases the value of said accounts (the low ranks?) Why though? If what i understand was correct, then you're contradicting what you've said.
copper member
Activity: 103
Merit: 7
February 06, 2018, 04:43:13 PM
#9
Good Day to everyone.
I would like to know if it is a must to add merit count requirements when participating into a campaign, I mean is it better to hire applicants with merits or by basing on their quality post? I have seen yahoo62278 start to come up with the idea of accepting applicants with merits for high payments  but also accepted applicants without merits since the merit feature is fresh.

For clarification, do managers have to hire applicants with merits in a must or not?

Please do correct me if I'm wrong or if I have said something unnecessary.
Thanks for the consideration.
Managers like yahoo62278 are only trying to impose what's bitcoin forum required users to have. If campaigns will accept participants whether they have no merit at all people will not be obliged to work on their post quality and continue doing what they want. The merit system was implemented to control the forum and it should be applied even in campaigns or any business inside this site.

This is kind of a chicken and the egg problem - Campaigns just won't accept participants that can't have links on their banners - which will then push value of said accounts upwards and discourage users from giving out merit. So in the context of campaigns, merit is not a well thought out concept at all.
full member
Activity: 266
Merit: 122
February 06, 2018, 03:06:43 PM
#8
Good Day to everyone.
I would like to know if it is a must to add merit count requirements when participating into a campaign, I mean is it better to hire applicants with merits or by basing on their quality post? I have seen yahoo62278 start to come up with the idea of accepting applicants with merits for high payments  but also accepted applicants without merits since the merit feature is fresh.

For clarification, do managers have to hire applicants with merits in a must or not?

Please do correct me if I'm wrong or if I have said something unnecessary.
Thanks for the consideration.
Managers like yahoo62278 are only trying to impose what's bitcoin forum required users to have. If campaigns will accept participants whether they have no merit at all people will not be obliged to work on their post quality and continue doing what they want. The merit system was implemented to control the forum and it should be applied even in campaigns or any business inside this site.
full member
Activity: 658
Merit: 152
February 06, 2018, 11:12:35 AM
#7
I also heard that such requirement is our nearly future. I guess it is going to be very common for well paid campaigns, but bounties will stay more loyal as usual. The necessary minimum to enter a signature campaign is goin to be the same as all old users got automatically after merit was involved (member - 10, full member - 50 and so on), se we have nothing to worry about, but new users have.
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 120
February 06, 2018, 11:11:18 AM
#6
Although it would have been unfair to those people who are really posting qualitative and constructive post but are not getting credit for it, because of the limited number s-merits sendable or they only select the members that they like. But that's life we would need to embrace and accept the challenge, but for me it is much needed for ranking up not necessarily for joining any campaigns but it would be a great help for managers if he/she requires it.
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