Topic: META WIN Casino - Negative Reputation - page 2. (Read 1042 times)

When I envision, you I imagine, a child trying to hit me with their weak punches.

'I WONT STAND DOWN I WILL LET PEOPLE KNOW' you sound so silly to me.

Please, care to inform me on the real issues of UMG?

Can you please clarify what the real issues, are please. I am curious. Because you said there was no way a lottery could pay back everything put into it without going bankrupt, and this is false.

A lottery can pay back everything, without going bankrupt.

Please inform us, of the shady practices, other than the name, enlighten me. Amuse me please. What are the shady practices. And what are the problems with the platform.

Now you have me intrigued...

Hey @GluttonyY, I'm not surprised you're getting all defensive and trying to insult me. You're not addressing the real issues with UMG, just trying to distract from the facts.

You say I can't have a normal convo, but that's because you're not listening to my concerns about UMG. You're just trying to shut me down.

You don't need my business? Okay, cool. But I'm still gonna warn others about UMG's shady stuff.

You think I'm stupid? That's rich coming from someone who's promoting a potentially fraudulent platform.

You say I don't know enough? I've done my research, and I'm not afraid to speak out. You're the one who's not providing any real evidence.

You think I'm not getting what you're saying? That's because you're not making any sense. You're just trying to confuse people.

And yeah, I said I'm not gonna have a convo with you like that. That means I'm not gonna engage in a conversation where you're just trying to attack me personally and avoid the real issues.

And now you're saying you're not gonna have a convo with me because I'm not showing respect? That's just a lame excuse. You're not willing to have a real conversation about UMG because you know you can't defend its shady practices.

So, no, I'm not gonna back down. I'll keep speaking out against UMG and warning others about its potential scams. You can keep trying to defend it, but it's clear you're not doing it out of a genuine desire to help people.

What the fuck are you talking about? Every time I talk to you, you cannot have a normal fucking conversation. I don't have to fix anything I don't need your business. You can scurry off back to the casino, I don't care. Likewise what about that is off topic, are you reading?

You just stupid bro, and you need to pack your shit up, because I already explained. The problem is not me explaining, the problem is you are not able to comprehend, because you don't have enough knowledge.

Everything I am saying is flying right past your head. You can't understand what I am saying, so instead, of trying to clarify you are just saying a bunch of shit in your head, you believe, but cannot prove.

Nah, it's further proof you need to show respect to the person you are talking too. And you aren't showing any respect, so I don't respect you. And am not gonna have a conversation with you.

Hey @GluttonyY, your response is mostly off topic. I gave you a chance to address the concerns about UMG, but instead of answering directly, you falsely claimed it's not a scam. Take your time to respond to my statement, I'm not in a hurry. My action is called for because I don't want anyone to get scammed. And btw, saying "I'm not gonna have a conversation with you like that" is further proof you know what you're doing is wrong. You're the one who needs to fix up, not me.

See your running through the messages, late not even knowing, im applauding you for taking this step.

That's why you don't spam me on multiple threads, about what you wanna say, because then your not able to see my responses, and you push forward in virtue of not knowing, i am applauding you for taking this extra step to do your due diligence.

I mean, I am trying to address the claims, you won't give me a chance, you just spamming me bro. I don't understand where I can find an opening to fill you in, if you won't let me.

You want me to tell you, but anytime I tell you some, its always, 'As you can see hes trying to deflect'

When I am giving you my perspective, or opinion.

That shit is uncalled for bro, and I am not dealing with that shit.

I am responding, showing you hey, you can ask questions.

You coming back with 'Nah, you lying, lol thats a scam, ima continue pushing that you a scam, I dont care' 'You deflecting, you a scammer, nahhhh you a scammer'

Like bro, I am not gonna have a conversation with you like that.

Dont ask me questions, if your not gonna have an open mind.

Fix up.

You're congratulating me on making an intellectual move, but you still haven't addressed the concerns I raised about your website in my thread, which is what really matters.

Good, a user finally capable of making an intellectual move, to stop all of this drama.

Well done.

Dude, I'm calling you out on your unprofessional behavior. Instead of addressing the legitimate concerns people have about your website, you're lashing out at other members who are promoting a different casino platform, META WIN. That's not how you build trust or credibility, bro.

You're accusing these members of having an "underlying motive" to bash your platform and promote META WIN, but that's just a weak attempt to deflect criticism. If you're really confident in your platform, you should be able to address the concerns people have raised about it, rather than attacking others.

And what's with the double standard? You're saying that people should keep an open mind and not label a platform as a scam without proper evidence, but that's exactly what you're doing to META WIN and its affiliates. You're accusing them of being biased and trying to promote their own platform, but you're doing the same thing with your own platform.

And let's be real, I think your website is a scam. I think you're trying to take advantage of people's trust and make a quick buck. I think your "Unlimited Money Generator" is just a fancy way of saying "give me your money and I'll promise you the world". I'm not buying it, bro.

In fact, I've made a thread on Bitcoin Talk about why I think your website is a scam. You can check it out for yourself: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-alert-unlimited-money-generator-website-5498951. I've laid out all the red flags and concerns I have about your platform, and I'm not the only one who's skeptical.

So, instead of attacking other members and trying to deflect criticism, how about you try to address the concerns and prove that your platform is legit? That's what a real professional would do. But until then, I'm gonna keep calling you out on your shady tactics and warning people to stay away from your website.

Two wrongs, do make a right, if my platforms, are the industry standard, allowing users to gamble much more reliably and safer, while having the ability to easily profit. And users who don't understand or don't gamble in the first place, are trying to stop that from happening for the gamblers.

Likewise, my platforms, will flourish without Bitcoin Talk Forum correct. But that doesn't mean dismiss the forum, this forum is very important.

It is not my sole goal, to make UMG, popular, but to stop users from gambling.

In virtue, to accomplish all my goals, I must achieve tasks on this forum, like disabling all of the casinos from generating revenue, as there is a much better safer way to gamble.

This forum, is a catalyst, for the gambling community. Which is why my presence here is important, no matter, if UMG, is popular or not.

I am an activist for gamblers right, and a pioneer for allowing gamblers to gamble without putting their livelihood at stake.

My sole goal, here is not just to profit, but provide a platform, where users can profit while gambling, and profit with little to no resources.

Likewise, while disabling the platforms designed to do the opposite, ability to flourish.

I must express the importance of UMG, and in order to express my intentions are pure, I must set fire to the doubters, and explain to everyone why what they are doing is wrong, and it is going against, the positive future for gamblers. I do this by spamming, and setting up trials.

Two wrongs do make a right in this case.

Likewise, I am 21 years, old.

Of course I am immature, the only thing that matters is that all of my claims are true, and that I allow you to get your money in and out of UMG.

The rest will follow later.

But I think expecting, a 21 year old, to be mature all the time is unrealistic.

And you would much rather a 21 year old, who is forthcoming, and honest about their desire and intentions.

What 21 year old, do you know that can initialize, two platforms, as I have in less than 7 months, one being a crypto currency exchange, the other being a platform, globally used in the future, by millions of people looking to generate revenue. Likewise at bare minimum, the best gambling platform in the world...

This is only that of someone capable to be leading, the innovation, in my opinion. Likewise, there are no questions about my legitimacy, we know I am legitimate. If I was not, then users would have told you already. Users play UMG, they win money, some withdraw, some keep playing until luck is not on their side.


Like I said, two wrongs make a right, in virtue of setting the balance so something correct can happen.

In this, case these users comments, must be pester sized, so users do not fall into this fallacy that UMG, is a scam or a scheme.

Likewise, I am sure, UMG will flourish, this is not a doubt to me. I am still coherent on that factor, the main, point here is to stop gamblers, from using casinos.

Furthermore, you see my name is Gluttony.

Even if my platform is flourishing, with just traders.

I want the gamblers too.

Because my platform helps gamblers, to the extreme. I am aware of all these factors, and this is what gets me out of bed in the morning.

Getting farther than I did the last day.

My spam is needed, I am cognitive enough to know that.

a 99.9% RTP system, helping you to win, users calling this a scam.

This cannot go unnoticed.

In short, "I do that because PP do that first"?

Then on this case, I'll beg to challenge your opinion and that what yahoo said is indeed correct. Spamming the forum and breaking its rules with sole purpose to revolt against those who claimed your platform is scam [read: lashing out] is the textbook example of two wrongs fallacy.

Further, your decision to spam the forum just to retaliate does not only show signs of immaturity, which ultimately lead to questions your reputation, it is also pointless, in a sense that "no spamming" rule can still be hold intact while achieving the "virtue".

So, in this specific case, two wrongs does not make a right.


Viewed from an angle of someone who are extremely sure his innovation is revolutionary and already invites a lot of attention [that he doesn't need this forum, because his platform already gather enough visitors from other platforms], it is rather pessimistic statement, is it not? Predeterminedly sure that other will be swayed and led to believe a narrative pushed by someone?

I don't think the two can coexist; the cocky attitude "I am a revolutionarist and here to bring salvation" and the pessimistic view of "the community will be scared and rather dubious to join due to all of the present scams and someone pushing a narrative." Either you're sure that your platform will flourish, that PP's statement doesn't matter, or you're rather unstable on your own two feet yet that you need all the support to help you flourish.

It's not about my attitude.

You and I were on good terms, until you negatively rated me, without asking any questions.

I don't understand, how users can expect to evolve, if they don't allow the flowers to blossom.

You all are bees, so spread your pollen.

Don't be wasp's and sting everything you see.

Likewise, I still don't understand, how you can negatively rate, and disagree with, someone about a topic without having any experience in the field whatsoever.

I'm talking about you Vod.

What gave you the say so, to call a professional gambler, a liar, when you have never gambled before?

I am a professional gambler, because I work in the backend, and know how gambling software works, likewise, I know how to improve gambling software as well..

This is not on me, this is on you vod.

You never asked me any questions, to prove you had a reason to negatively flag me.

And when you did ask me questions, it was never that of any showing you were trying to give me a chance, to explain my reasoning, to the guaranteed way to win, in my software.

The questions you asked me, prove that you were inexperienced in the subject, and were challenging, an experienced user about claims you could not prove were wrong.

When you asked me questions, it was never you trying to prove, your point was valid.

When you asked me questions, you were never trying to prove, that your negative trust against me was valid.

Because you did not know the correct questions to ask in the first place, to prove your point that your negative rating was true.

So if you cant prove your negative rating is true because of inexperience, why are you negatively rating someone in the first place, damaging them? You can't prove your claims. (Abuse of DT) You don't have evidence to back your claims. And you have never been a solid figure in this field, so stop damaging the field for users who have been solid figures.

You have no place, to call me out, and ruin opportunities for other gamblers. You are not a gambler. You just need to monitor my activity, and ask questions if you are interested, as a veteran member, who is trusted. Don't go inserting yourself, into complex equations, you don't have the capability to solve. Likewise, while starting a whole nother project, and leaving me to deal with all the chaos you have caused. You don't even have time to prove that what you are saying is correct... Why even put us both in this position in the first place?

So now, you as someone who is not a gambler, making claims, for a gambler, in awe of you not knowing the severity and the magnificence of the project you are viewing, you are making irrational claims, like I am deluded, and delusional, convincing other users this is true, as you are a trusted person in the community. This is moving people away from UMG, back into the casinos. When in reality, I am the leading pioneer of the gambling and trading market and users need to be interacting with UMG, for safer, more lucrative options while gambling.

(Moral of the story, is, you are already inexperienced with gambling, what makes you think you can make assertations, about something complex in gambling, when you have never even gambled before... You shouldn't tell me or others what is possible and impossible, when you are completely unaware of what is possible and impossible.)  This is the equivalent, to you trying to skip to college, and you have not even made it to high school yet. You are not ready! To discuss these things! You are not educated enough!

He cannot abuse DT; that is a paradox.  PP abuses DT.  PP is no longer on DT.  PP no longer abuses DT.   PP is back on DT.

Default Trust is a politics game.  Unless you are protected, you cannot continue to do disagreeable actions and not face consequences.   Therefore, most people must agree with his feedback.   Try changing your attitude.

This whole two wrongs make a right, is old terminology that does not apply to every situation.

There are some cases, when you are going to have to fight, and not fair, for an equal opportunity.

If you breaking the rules, is in virtue, of improving many peoples lives, then the rule needs to be broke.

Its fairly, simple. Life, is about different combinations.


Correct. Unlimited Money Generator, because of all the present scams, is enough to scare many away. This is fine, but with other users, supporting that narrative, it will never suffice.


Likewise, when I refer to 'love' holy darkness, I am really trying to help you and other users.

The way some of the users, act on this forum. In lamen terms, makes me want to pack my bags, and leave.

But I know you users, are ruining something good for yourself, so instead of ostracizing this forum for it. I am putting my pride to the side, and forgiving these, users, as they know no better.

The users, are only trying to protect themselves, which I understand.

The fact that they're still in DT suggest that majority of the DTs doesn't share your sentiment. If they deemed that PP abused his DT power, they'll promptly intervening by excluding him, which will lead him to losing his DT power. Certainly you don't expect someone to act on something what they don't hold as true?


I'm sorry, what?


So, you indirectly say that the seed is already there, people already questions the credibility of your system, with or without the "FUD" thrown at you?

You missed my question about how two wrongs make a right.

Another conspiracy theory by another idiot.

JollyGood, asked me to prove that I am unlimited money generator, when he could literally go to the topics I have posted and see that I made a thread about umg, months ago.

Don't take this user JollyGood, opinion serious, either he partakes in drugs or he is not that intellectual. Likewise, his judgement cannot be trusted.

Now he is accusing me of being Jackpot racer, an account that has been on the forum for months, with no similarities to me at all.

Just because racer and have I agreed before, about Poker Player's negligence. Enough, of your childish antics, JollyGood.

Who else thinks there are similarities between this GluttonyY/unlimitedmoneygenerator troll and JackpotRacer? They could of-course be unrelated and unconnected but that does not negate the similarities.

I acted out, because this user keeps abusing his DT, and no one will do anything about.

Likewise, this user Poker Player, keeps accusing me of being a fraud, but won't ask any questions about concepts he doesn't understand.

So I am merely being punished by his stupidity, and that infuriates me.

I will be an exception on the forum, because what I bring to the forum, is love.

Ultimately, I really am providing a much more safer, profitable platform for gamblers and traders.


If you dealt with Poker Player, on a daily basis you would lash out too. I am human just like the rest of you, I am entitled to my emotions, and like I said, I abide by freedom of speech.

If I am angry you will know. If I am trying to scam you, you will know.

Because everything i'm saying to you, is coming off the top of my head.

I like operating this way so users know everything is genuine.

So although you may see it as lashing out, I am just showing everyone I have emotions too.

I'm not going to be professional with a bunch of idiots. That isn't going to happen.

Likewise, I never panicked, any user that asks me a question, I can answer it within 2 minutes.

When you have questions, and you don't ask, then you negatively flag me because you don't understand.

Yes I will get upset.

Because what are you, an idiot?


These users are scaring Bitcoin Talk Forum members away from software that will help them profit, just because they don't understand it.

Likewise, users are already scared it is a fraud, with the name 'Unlimited Money Generator', them spamming it is a scam is just the cherry on top.

Why?

This forum has seen so many pseudonyms throughout its old life, so many ideas and "geniuses", and far as I know, they don't discriminate against rule-breaker. If you [with "you" refers to anybody] break rules, you'll be banned. You stick to it, you'll be good. So why should you [this time, referring to you personally] have a special treatment?


So, a tantrum? You acted out because someone [well, I don't think "someone" is the best term to use for this case] throws FUD about your project?

It is, once again, like what happened previously, rather paradoxical, is it not? Either your project is so revolutionary and will sweep the whole cryptoworld so great that FUD won't matter, or it is rather a mere house of card that a slight blow of FUD send you panicked and throws tantrum.


It called scepticism, and people will consider it as a healthy one, if they may judge from the way you lashed out. You might want to consider to disprove the scepticism through results and data instead of acting out like a five years old.


Kindly explain more. How?


Again, how? How can one person leads to the demise of hundreds of lives if the project being offered has a concrete foundation that it can't be swayed by mere opinion of someone?

Vod, I would still be helping you in the long-run, because eventually even without the forum. You would find out about UMG, and start playing because it has the best benefits, in the world, for any gambler.

But this way, it is just reaching you faster.

You get to experience the benefits faster, meaning you are not wasting thousands of dollars every month gambling normally, because you are unaware UMG exists..

But I understand what you are saying, I will tone down my posting aggression.

Only if users keep an open mind.

Well, you better not break forum rules then, because if you are banned you cannot help us.