Topic: Methods of Coping with Food Shortages and High Prices (Read 401 times)
Great idea! The beans will also give you gas to keep you warm
First of all you do not get to know when the prices of things in the market would go down. So, if you’re going to be buying all these things you have mentioned here like a bag of wheat and rice, you are still going to be buying them at a really high price.
So, my own suggestion is that these things are not the things that you should wait till there is a situation of high cost of food before you start buying them. these are things you should be buying on a regular even when things are cheap and storing them in your house as long as they are going to last and not spoil. So, if there happens to be such a situation, you will be sure that the ones that you have already stocked up will last you for some time before you start talking about buying new ones. And before you start buying again,you must have at least gathered some enough money to start doing that.
So, my own suggestion is that these things are not the things that you should wait till there is a situation of high cost of food before you start buying them. these are things you should be buying on a regular even when things are cheap and storing them in your house as long as they are going to last and not spoil. So, if there happens to be such a situation, you will be sure that the ones that you have already stocked up will last you for some time before you start talking about buying new ones. And before you start buying again,you must have at least gathered some enough money to start doing that.
another thing to worry about for most is the financial capability to make those big purchases for stocks. a lot of families are just earning enough for their basic expenses so they don't have the capability to buy extra. if you have a family with little to no budget for extra supplies, maybe, you can also evaluate your food expenditures. check if you are buying unnecessary things that are only going to waste. sometimes, we just neglect some foods and haven't used it up until we can't consume anymore. assess the budget where it really ends up with. maybe, there are some items you are purchasing not worth your penny. bottomline, be frugal. don't buy luxury things if you are in a tight budget. live within your means.
Thank you for making such a very good point. Not every family has such an amount of money to be stocking up on food stuff. Most of them can only afford just regular stuff that they buy on a daily. So, the best thing that they can do for themselves when the situation is bad and things in the market gets costly is to work on their expenses.It would be best for them to reduce the level of expenses that they are making and cut off on the unnecessary things that they do not need. Whatever expenses that they are making in a time like that should be only on things that are necessary for them or should I say their needs and not unnecessary wants.
This method works only once. You will eat all your grown vegetables during 1 meal 
Then you will have to wait months till next harvest. And before that wait months before these light will be delivered. lol. Google say human can survive about 10 days without food and water. Good luck with these lamps. All your suggestion are long term investment. It is too late to use them as a method to survive now.
Same thought I have in my mind before but I think that will only happen if you plant in small quantities but what if you have a big farm? and you also have other kinds of food to eat, not only the ones that you are planting. They can still last for a long time. Also not all vegetables grows longer like a month or two but there are also that grows faster like for a week only or it can be lesser than that. Then you will have to wait months till next harvest. And before that wait months before these light will be delivered. lol. Google say human can survive about 10 days without food and water. Good luck with these lamps. All your suggestion are long term investment. It is too late to use them as a method to survive now.For the fruits, the OP already shown an example how we can save time waiting for them to grow but for the delivery of the lamps, there might be delays depending on which country you live but I think they are also available locally. You can just buy them straight away.
Most of those suggestions are just not what everybody can do. If you got a large family and live in an apartment, where are you going to grow all those vegetables? And even if you got the space you probably won’t be able to grow it fast enough.
I agree with stock piling with bulk on some certain food groups. During covid many people bought tons of rice and flour and most are probably going to do that soon.
Making people eat less is not a good solution because even if someone is over weight and can eat less they will suffer in the process.
I agree with stock piling with bulk on some certain food groups. During covid many people bought tons of rice and flour and most are probably going to do that soon.
Making people eat less is not a good solution because even if someone is over weight and can eat less they will suffer in the process.
This only works if the person has sufficient landscape to produce those bearing fruits- but yea, unfortunately not all people has the necessary land space for this. Though the suggestions are feasible, like you mentioned, the best possible thing to do to cope with food shortages is to purchase bulk orders and stock them as soon as possible. With high prices come high demand, it is but necessary but to purchase more before prices do increase further in the future.
Personally, this is a problem that the government must addressed to its citizens. They must come up with a mechanism that combat food shortages and high prices as inflation is increasing.
but another thing to worry about for most is the financial capability to make those big purchases for stocks. a lot of families are just earning enough for their basic expenses so they don't have the capability to buy extra. if you have a family with little to no budget for extra supplies, maybe, you can also evaluate your food expenditures. check if you are buying unnecessary things that are only going to waste. sometimes, we just neglect some foods and haven't used it up until we can't consume anymore. assess the budget where it really ends up with. maybe, there are some items you are purchasing not worth your penny. bottomline, be frugal. don't buy luxury things if you are in a tight budget. live within your means.
Most of those suggestions are just not what everybody can do. If you got a large family and live in an apartment, where are you going to grow all those vegetables? And even if you got the space you probably won’t be able to grow it fast enough.
I agree with stock piling with bulk on some certain food groups. During covid many people bought tons of rice and flour and most are probably going to do that soon.
Making people eat less is not a good solution because even if someone is over weight and can eat less they will suffer in the process.
I agree with stock piling with bulk on some certain food groups. During covid many people bought tons of rice and flour and most are probably going to do that soon.
Making people eat less is not a good solution because even if someone is over weight and can eat less they will suffer in the process.
This only works if the person has sufficient landscape to produce those bearing fruits- but yea, unfortunately not all people has the necessary land space for this. Though the suggestions are feasible, like you mentioned, the best possible thing to do to cope with food shortages is to purchase bulk orders and stock them as soon as possible. With high prices come high demand, it is but necessary but to purchase more before prices do increase further in the future.
Personally, this is a problem that the government must addressed to its citizens. They must come up with a mechanism that combat food shortages and high prices as inflation is increasing.
I know that Europe has had problems on some items, and here the need comes into play that no one in the world escapes from it, to handle this type of problem that most people panic is what the Venezuelans did when they did not they had a place to buy food, and that is, trying to buy basic foodstuffs, everything you can have to resist possible economic shocks and inflation that can plague you, as in Europe most countries are close to going, it is good to go to others to make markets and try to have it saved, on the basis that they take care of the expiration dates.
In Venezuela, the country under which they helped to get food is Colombia and Brazil, despite the fact that both countries sold very expensive or sell expensive some food, Venezuelans made and make the effort to buy it, this is a strategy to be able to cope with this type of crisis.
In Venezuela, the country under which they helped to get food is Colombia and Brazil, despite the fact that both countries sold very expensive or sell expensive some food, Venezuelans made and make the effort to buy it, this is a strategy to be able to cope with this type of crisis.
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Please share if you have other good information.
Since you are talking about food shortage, i am curious to know whether you are from Sri Lanka as the country is going through food shortage simply because of the non scientific decisions taken by the government without much thought process and forcing every farmer from inorganic farming to organic farming in a short period of time.Please share if you have other good information.
You can start farming to overcome foot shortages and high prices but the limitation depends upon the area you have and since you are talking about wheat, you need a large area to cultivate wheat. If area is not a constraint then you can farm literally anything.
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The pre-independence India was completely torn apart by Mughals, Muslims, Portugees and Britishers. Everyone just fled away with huge assets from India. At the time Gold was most abundant along with arts of fabricating clothes, artefacts, furniture, and most importantly they looted everything precious from the king states at the time.
Since you touched history, Mughals were initially invited by a landlord to invade Panipat and defeat the ruling king and Babur defeated Sultan Ibrahim Lodi and made his kingdom, since you mention Muslims, the first mosque in India was built in 629 AD in Kerala and Muhammad Bin Qasim invaded Sindh in 712 AD at a young age of 17 and he died at 20 The pre-independence India was completely torn apart by Mughals, Muslims, Portugees and Britishers. Everyone just fled away with huge assets from India. At the time Gold was most abundant along with arts of fabricating clothes, artefacts, furniture, and most importantly they looted everything precious from the king states at the time.
. I am telling this because if there is a view of Muslims came after the invasion of Muhammad Bin Qasim, that is not true .When it comes to Portuguese, Vasco da Gama landed in Kerala for trade and commerce and we invited them and then later invaded parts of India and they are the last to leave India well after the Independence even after the British left in 1961
. Even British came to India as East India trading company for trade and commerce and later invaded, the common theme is everyone was invited and then they showed their military strength with the support of locals who got favors for helping them.
Mung Beans is also good for long term storage, it was used by the revolution army here in our place, it is also versatile in different kinds of food combined with wheat and other vegetables. Rice is also a good choice, there are different kinds of rice here locally, and they can also be grinded and used just like wheat flour, and the best part is this these are too cheap.
I think there's no universal answer, and it heavily depends on the details. Does the person live in rural or urban area? How high is the inflation rate? Are there severe food shortages? Are there electricity shortages or any risks of those? Is there running water and a risk of being left without it? What's the climate?
I'm not just making these questions up randomly, I'm formulating them based on what's going on in various regions of my country, Ukraine, which is currently hit by war. If it's urban area, it'll be difficult to grow foods on a level significant enough to make a food difference. If it's a rural area and the shortages are due to events like a war, there's a very high chance that there won't be any electricity (so lamps won't help) for long periods of time, and there can be water shortages as well.
If the inflation even hits 100% (and I'm saying this from experience because it happened when I was a university student in my country), this doesn't mean it's the end and you'll starve to death. It means you'll be able to afford very significantly less than before, and if you salary wasn't good before, you probably need to find a second job. But food shortages won't necessarily follow, so no need to buy loads of wheat which, let's be honest, you won't use anyway unless you're at a starving point (and inflation doesn't do that).
Essential and very useful things are those you can eat without cooking, those that can last for at least months without electricity, and those that can help satiate hunger. Nowadays, there are many protein bars, oatmeal bars and stuff like that, which can be super helpful in difficult times: they're small, very long-lasting, generally tasty (so you'll probably be willing to eat them even in case things work out well), and give your organism energy.
I'm not just making these questions up randomly, I'm formulating them based on what's going on in various regions of my country, Ukraine, which is currently hit by war. If it's urban area, it'll be difficult to grow foods on a level significant enough to make a food difference. If it's a rural area and the shortages are due to events like a war, there's a very high chance that there won't be any electricity (so lamps won't help) for long periods of time, and there can be water shortages as well.
If the inflation even hits 100% (and I'm saying this from experience because it happened when I was a university student in my country), this doesn't mean it's the end and you'll starve to death. It means you'll be able to afford very significantly less than before, and if you salary wasn't good before, you probably need to find a second job. But food shortages won't necessarily follow, so no need to buy loads of wheat which, let's be honest, you won't use anyway unless you're at a starving point (and inflation doesn't do that).
Essential and very useful things are those you can eat without cooking, those that can last for at least months without electricity, and those that can help satiate hunger. Nowadays, there are many protein bars, oatmeal bars and stuff like that, which can be super helpful in difficult times: they're small, very long-lasting, generally tasty (so you'll probably be willing to eat them even in case things work out well), and give your organism energy.
This method works only once. You will eat all your grown vegetables during 1 meal Then you will have to wait months till next harvest. And before that wait months before these light will be delivered. lol. Google say human can survive about 10 days without food and water. Good luck with these lamps. All your suggestion are long-term investments. It is too late to use them as a method to survive now.
Then you will have to wait months till next harvest. And before that wait months before these light will be delivered. lol. Google say human can survive about 10 days without food and water. Good luck with these lamps. All your suggestion are long-term investments. It is too late to use them as a method to survive now.We couldn't rely on all our food needs on our grown fruits and vegetables but at least, it could ease too many expenses and we'll be able to save and allocate it to our other necessities. It's better to plant and wait for 10 months to harvest what we saw than to wait for nothing. It can't sustain us continuously but it could also help us save.
Put the source for that
The fact that you are still arguing on the negative side and not focusing on what your article itself pointed out, amuses me in what way you thinking about it.
Man up and read again. You should really read that article one more time.
Man up and read again. You should really read that article one more time.
I did not read any article before posting on what i said, its base on what i know, well to say the fact i studied agriculture but i don't necessarily need provings on that, i believe alot that knows about what i said could testify in that regards. but as you insisted on proving with an article i think this could show a little light more https://www.google.com/amp/s/scialert.net/fulltext/amp.php%3fdoi=ajps.2004.636.641
please ensure you take note of the abstract and the heading that says "effect of age on rootstock".
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Pls this is a discussion and not an argument.
Really? No Google CEO, Twitter CEO?
Now I know I’m talking with a person who just want to show India as dusty nation.
Now I know I’m talking with a person who just want to show India as dusty nation.
All people that have fled India and have renounced their citizenship for a US one.
If those are smart people you admire then there might be a problem with your way of thinking, looking at how easily they've ditched theirs.
Because this way we can end up rewriting Wikipedia with our argument.
Of course, because that's what you always do, try to distort numbers and facts, from beating Alexander the Great to leading the world in technology, when numbers and facts tell something different. And you have the nerve to laugh about South Korea, lol, 1/15!
Have fun believing everything, be proud of others' achievements that have nothing to do with yours, try to discredit others to bring them down to your level, and then at the end of the day you're going to ask why you're left behind. This is the main difference between us, we understand the problems we have, we deeply criticize them, we're looking for the future, not dwelling in some stupid dark age mentality, and the results are clear as the sky on a summer day.
1/15!
Ouch!
I knew that you will pull the card of fled the country.
I am still not convinced with your explanations because you pin pointed only negative bullets. Which are also now recovering and moving towards good future.
What happening is whenever I’m saying IT you saying BPO, for Pharmaceutical R&D’s you saying Toilets, For skills you saying sticks. So the conversation is not going in proper direction.
Be thankful that guy is running Google making you billions in taxes.
Wheat in cans or buckets for long term storage used to be very cheap and affordable. Rice is very similar except its not as versatile or diverse, in terms of it being used to make many different things.
Both can be used to make alcohol.
If hard times come I'm going to focus on setting up a distillery. My father used to make wine and mead 20 years ago, maybe it's going to become profitable again when we start facing shortages like the Russians already are.
Plants follow the light, feeding them light only from one angle is putting additional stress on their growth as sprouting more leaves upside will give them no benefit so they tend to have a thinner trunk, larger leaves, everything abnormal.
I used to do that a bit for "medical and spiritual purposes"
Most LED lights are a waste of money. People who are serious about growing plants and can't afford expensive professional lights don't use that crappy chinese stuff. We use basically 2 types of lights: fluorescent tubes or bulbs (good for young plants) and discharge lamps either sodium (more natural) or metal-halide. To make plants feel more natural and grow stronger you induce wind in the room to make them sway and switch lights off for a few hours a day to simulate night. 
Really? No Google CEO, Twitter CEO?
Now I know I’m talking with a person who just want to show India as dusty nation.
Now I know I’m talking with a person who just want to show India as dusty nation.
All people that have fled India and have renounced their citizenship for a US one.
If those are smart people you admire then there might be a problem with your way of thinking, looking at how easily they've ditched theirs.
Because this way we can end up rewriting Wikipedia with our argument.
Of course, because that's what you always do, try to distort numbers and facts, from beating Alexander the Great to leading the world in technology, when numbers and facts tell something different. And you have the nerve to laugh about South Korea, lol, 1/15!
Have fun believing everything, be proud of others' achievements that have nothing to do with yours, try to discredit others to bring them down to your level, and then at the end of the day you're going to ask why you're left behind. This is the main difference between us, we understand the problems we have, we deeply criticize them, we're looking for the future, not dwelling in some stupid dark age mentality, and the results are clear as the sky on a summer day.
1/15!
Being a city dweller with literally no vacant land nearby, my only option is to hoard by buying extra whenever I can. Mostly rice and beans, which keeps long enough if stored properly, and canned goods.
If your climate allows it and you have a plot of land you can grow sweet potatoes, cassava and taro. These are low-maintenance root crops that could extend your rice stores. Bananas/plantains are also good, they are basically a no-season crop since it replaces itself with new suckers.
I guess that's what the food store is for. Hoard as much as you can, gtfo away from cities and start planting, living off your hoard while you wait for the harvest. I guess even if it's possible to grow lots of food indoors its still advisable to move to more rural areas.
If your climate allows it and you have a plot of land you can grow sweet potatoes, cassava and taro. These are low-maintenance root crops that could extend your rice stores. Bananas/plantains are also good, they are basically a no-season crop since it replaces itself with new suckers.
This method works only once. You will eat all your grown vegetables during 1 meal Then you will have to wait months till next harvest. And before that wait months before these light will be delivered. lol. Google say human can survive about 10 days without food and water. Good luck with these lamps. All your suggestion are long term investment. It is too late to use them as a method to survive now.
Then you will have to wait months till next harvest. And before that wait months before these light will be delivered. lol. Google say human can survive about 10 days without food and water. Good luck with these lamps. All your suggestion are long term investment. It is too late to use them as a method to survive now.I guess that's what the food store is for. Hoard as much as you can, gtfo away from cities and start planting, living off your hoard while you wait for the harvest. I guess even if it's possible to grow lots of food indoors its still advisable to move to more rural areas.
You can still counter argue on this, but facts wont change mate.
Anyways, I heard the agricultural export has rose a lot from India after some shortage in western hemisphere. Ohhw, poor Indians, still helping out the rulers.
Anyways, I heard the agricultural export has rose a lot from India after some shortage in western hemisphere. Ohhw, poor Indians, still helping out the rulers.
Facts? Ok, let's talk facts cause you really need a spank back to reality!
India, vs...a tiny country called the Netherlands?
The whole service and client support still comes from India. Just having nice classical perfume and wearing suit mean nothing, you gotta have functional skills in the skull.
Skills? What skills?
You mean reciting the same manual over and over and doing the whole work cheaper than the electricity a robot would require.
That is your pride? Call center operators?
South Korea? You could have come up with better administration example I guess.
South Korea: GDP per capita 35,196
India: GDP per capita 2,116
Lol....why don't you compare yourself to Botswana , but even those have a 3 times bigger GDP per capita than India.
Oh, in case you're as bad at math as in every other aspect, South Korea has a GDP per capita that is 15! bigger than India.
Let that sink in! 15 times!
Aye man, you are so boring. You keep talking about only things which can counter part the negative side.
Seriously, you can only think about BPO, Toilets and stuff?
Really? No Google CEO, Twitter CEO?
Infosys, Infotech, Sciformix, TATA,?
Now I know I’m talking with a person who just want to show India as dusty nation.
You can still come down here, will pop a beer for ya!! Guests are welcomed, irrespective of Love or hatred.
Because this way we can end up rewriting the Wikipedia with our argument.
You can still counter argue on this, but facts wont change mate.
Anyways, I heard the agricultural export has rose a lot from India after some shortage in western hemisphere. Ohhw, poor Indians, still helping out the rulers.
Anyways, I heard the agricultural export has rose a lot from India after some shortage in western hemisphere. Ohhw, poor Indians, still helping out the rulers.
Facts? Ok, let's talk facts cause you really need a spank back to reality!
India, vs...a tiny country called the Netherlands?
The whole service and client support still comes from India. Just having nice classical perfume and wearing suit mean nothing, you gotta have functional skills in the skull.
Skills? What skills?
You mean reciting the same manual over and over and doing the whole work cheaper than the electricity a robot would require.
That is your pride? Call center operators?
South Korea? You could have come up with better administration example I guess.
South Korea: GDP per capita 35,196
India: GDP per capita 2,116
Lol....why don't you compare yourself to Botswana , but even those have a 3 times bigger GDP per capita than India.
Oh, in case you're as bad at math as in every other aspect, South Korea has a GDP per capita that is 15! bigger than India.
Let that sink in! 15 times!
Let me guess, you never been to India.
I dont know, how to put everything infront of you, but the way things work in India can only be experienced by you if you were here.
India is not a small country mate. India houses over 1,403,643,260 peeps. The area is spread over 1,269,219 sq miles.
I dont know, how to put everything infront of you, but the way things work in India can only be experienced by you if you were here.
India is not a small country mate. India houses over 1,403,643,260 peeps. The area is spread over 1,269,219 sq miles.
Exactly the attitude I despise the most!
Bragging about hardship, bragging about things that don't matter like population and religion and the wrath of gods and the martian invasion, and never once admitting how much wrong stuff goes there.
Why do I need to go to India when your country continuously asks for help with millions of tons of food and then brags about donating one ton?
When both the UN and UNICEF are telling 240 million people to live with food shortages and 60 million children are in the same situation, who should I trust, a nationalist on a forum that lies to people about how great their country is or their own officials?
Why are we going through the History?
Because you need excuses, that's why!
There are countries that have never been independent till ww1, with their citizens never experiencing freedom in their empire, and are doing now 10 times better even after two world wars that nearly razed Europe to the ground. Why is South Korea so advanced when they were even poorer than India in the 60?
Stop blaming the English and Porthugees for everything, it's not the English that are shiting on your beaches, those are your own people, The war between your own population couldn't have happened if people wouldn't be so eager to kill each other for stupid reasons.
You had 80 years, in 20 years Japan from a destroyed country with wooden houses no mineral resources no agriculture turned out into a global superpower, wonder why some can and India doesn't and there is no excuse.
So stop with the excuses, man up, and face reality!
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Advance technology such as crops hybridization and biotechnology has proven with effectual use of second felial generation of exotic breeds in plant, whereby you can get a normal tree that takes 5 to 7 years before flowering to start fruiting in not more than 3 years with well developed structures and still arrived with a better results, those plant that are given an intensive management care system tend to do well than the open field crops which got affected with many environmental factors.
The fact that you are still arguing on the negative side and not focusing on what your article itself pointed out, amuses me in what way you thinking about it.
Man up and read again. You should really read that article one more time.
South Korea? You could have come up with better administration example I guess.
Oh yes yes, Europe hnn?
Two days ago UK's Truss and Russia's Lavrov were in India to visit PM. Wondering why they need help from the shitty people like Indians?
Oh no they screwed up with war, poor people want to have good allies for future? Ohhww, sad kitty face!
The fact that English shit got cleared by Indian's made you go faster in the past.
No wonder why they visit India till date to get talents for their MNC's. I have seen the way UK and USA works. Put up mock person in the interview get hired and get nice classy pay-scale.
The whole service and client support still comes from India. Just having nice classical perfume and wearing suit mean nothing, you gotta have functional skills in the skull.
No wonder how you are still arguing about the negative part of it. You forgot the para where developments were stated and how the country is prospering.
You can still counter argue on this, but facts wont change mate.
Anyways, I heard the agricultural export has rose a lot from India after some shortage in western hemisphere. Ohhw, poor Indians, still helping out the rulers.
Let me guess, you never been to India.
I dont know, how to put everything infront of you, but the way things work in India can only be experienced by you if you were here.
India is not a small country mate. India houses over 1,403,643,260 peeps. The area is spread over 1,269,219 sq miles.
I dont know, how to put everything infront of you, but the way things work in India can only be experienced by you if you were here.
India is not a small country mate. India houses over 1,403,643,260 peeps. The area is spread over 1,269,219 sq miles.
Exactly the attitude I despise the most!
Bragging about hardship, bragging about things that don't matter like population and religion and the wrath of gods and the martian invasion, and never once admitting how much wrong stuff goes there.
Why do I need to go to India when your country continuously asks for help with millions of tons of food and then brags about donating one ton?
When both the UN and UNICEF are telling 240 million people to live with food shortages and 60 million children are in the same situation, who should I trust, a nationalist on a forum that lies to people about how great their country is or their own officials?
Why are we going through the History?
Because you need excuses, that's why!
There are countries that have never been independent till ww1, with their citizens never experiencing freedom in their empire, and are doing now 10 times better even after two world wars that nearly razed Europe to the ground. Why is South Korea so advanced when they were even poorer than India in the 60?
Stop blaming the English and Porthugees for everything, it's not the English that are shiting on your beaches, those are your own people, The war between your own population couldn't have happened if people wouldn't be so eager to kill each other for stupid reasons.
You had 80 years, in 20 years Japan from a destroyed country with wooden houses no mineral resources no agriculture turned out into a global superpower, wonder why some can and India doesn't and there is no excuse.
So stop with the excuses, man up, and face reality!
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Advance technology such as crops hybridization and biotechnology has proven with effectual use of second felial generation of exotic breeds in plant, whereby you can get a normal tree that takes 5 to 7 years before flowering to start fruiting in not more than 3 years with well developed structures and still arrived with a better results, those plant that are given an intensive management care system tend to do well than the open field crops which got affected with many environmental factors.
Put the source for that
There is a difference between the process of grafting and the requirement for that, if the tree you're going to graft hasn't fully developed in two years grafting won't produce any other effect than some thin branches for the next year with a few fruits and a really stressed trunk that can't support the weight. If you want an indoor tree in a pot, sure you can try it but don't expect the fruits to last more than a weekend, and without friends coming in the visit.
Yeah sure, I've seen apples giving 3-4 fruits at 2 years, and then taking another 7 years to reach maturity instead of 5.
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